Trusk'our he/him Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 I recently read this quote. Quote Dragonsteel Mini-Con 2021 (Nov. 23, 2021) Questioner In your books, you have some pretty powerful healing magics, and we've also seen some characters sustain some pretty traumatic brain injuries. The human brain stores information as electrical connections, right? So if you blew a part of it out, you could grow it all back, but those connections wouldn't really be there. Have you considered that? Brandon Sanderson I have. This is why you will see memory... So, Cognitive Shadows maintain a person's memory. And your Cognitive aspect, your Invested self, maintains your memory in the cosmere. This is why you will also see people's memory being edited by accessing some of the Investiture. You'll see this in Warbreaker; you saw this in the end of Rhythm of War. Your Cognitive self, your Invested self, keeps a duplicate of all your memories. So this allows very significant trauma to the Physical sense; as long as the Cognitive sense is still attached to that body, those memories will be reimplanted in the Physical self, or will be accessed. And this was just necessary for me to even have things like what happened with Raoden in the beginning of Elantris, and for ghosts to exist, and things like that. It actually works pretty well, because it lets me use it to edit people's memories by accessing their Investiture. And one of the other things that's going on here is: if you have more Investiture, you can remember more, and better. But then that's dangerous, because it's a lot easier to access that Investiture. And it's a lot harder to notice when it has been edited. Hmm. Does this mean that it could be possible for someone knowledgeable and very, very sneaky to edit a Shard Vessel's memories, causing them to do what an individual wanted, or is it referring to Hoid and Odium's confrontation only? Also, does "it's a lot easier to access that Investiture" refer to someone else accessing it, or the actual Invested individual? Because if it's talking about someone else accessing your memories, it's almost laughably easy for Scadrians to access Preservation's and Ruin's Investiture via the Mists or the Metallic Arts. Heck, Horor's Investiture is just as easy for Rosharans, as is Autonomy's for Taldainian's to access.
offer Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, Trusk'our said: I recently read this quote. Does this mean that it could be possible for someone knowledgeable and very, very sneaky to edit a Shard Vessel's memories, causing them to do what an individual wanted, or is it referring to Hoid and Odium's confrontation only? Also, does "it's a lot easier to access that Investiture" refer to someone else accessing it, or the actual Invested individual? Because if it's talking about someone else accessing your memories, it's almost laughably easy for Scadrians to access Preservation's and Ruin's Investiture via the Mists or the Metallic Arts. Heck, Horor's Investiture is just as easy for Rosharans, as is Autonomy's for Taldainian's to access. It sounds that he is refering to someone else accessing the memories (since he is talking about the dangers). It might be possible to edit vessel`s memories but they might have some natural defences against it since they are so powerfull. Even if they don`t have such defences you will probably need to access some specific part of the shard`s investiture so getting some mist won`t allow you to affect sazed- Brandon is clearly thinking about the RoW epilogue when he says that and there odium probably wasnt just "touching" hoid but affected the specific breaths in which he stored the memories. It could be intersting in the future if we will see more such things and thiis could be a intersting tool but right now I dont think we have enough information to know when it can be used.
NerdyAarakocra They/Them Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 Yeah, the RoW epilogue mentions this...
Spearguy Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 Maybe this could be part of the reason why TLR was known for having such a good memory. I know that F-Copper could do that but Sazed was shown having to use an index.
alder24 Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Spearguy said: Maybe this could be part of the reason why TLR was known for having such a good memory. I know that F-Copper could do that but Sazed was shown having to use an index. Copper compounding might also be the case.
IlstrawberrySeed Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 On 2/6/2023 at 11:19 AM, Spearguy said: Maybe this could be part of the reason why TLR was known for having such a good memory. I know that F-Copper could do that but Sazed was shown having to use an index. On 2/6/2023 at 0:58 PM, alder24 said: Copper compounding might also be the case. His family has some history with natural photographic memories. I think that's the the most likely myself.
Frustration Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, IlstrawberrySeed said: His family has some history with natural photographic memories. I think that's the the most likely myself. Photographic memory is not proven to exist And Brandon takes care to point out that his memory is important Spoiler Brandon Sanderson We mention the Lord Ruler's flawless memory here. This is actually the only time in the entire series that it's mentioned. However, this is an important clue for later. However, as I'm writing this, without being able to hide this text, I don't want to explain too much and inadvertently ruin something. However, if you've finished the book, you might be able to figure out why the Lord Ruler might have a reputation for being able to remember things. Mistborn: The Final Empire Annotations (Oct. 6, 2006)
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