Frustration Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) So apparently, you can combine spren. Spoiler Questioner Can spren be put back together, through Bondsmiths rejoined, as Shards can be joined and combined? Brandon Sanderson That, um… so what do you mean by spren put back together? Questioner Could a Bondsmith combine spren in the way that Shards can be combined? Brandon Sanderson Ok, so the answer is they can be combined. Whether the Bondsmith is a method or not I won't say, but spren can be combined. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/2/#e215 My one question is what kind of surges would these fusion spren give? Is it like one surge from each spren, or do you get two from each in one? And what kind of oaths would there be? And what about fabrials, how would those be affected? Just, why Brandon. Power creep like this is completely unnecessary. Edited February 6, 2023 by Frustration
KaladinWorldsinger Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Frustration said: So apparently, you can combine spren. Reveal hidden contents Questioner Can spren be put back together, through Bondsmiths rejoined, as Shards can be joined and combined? Brandon Sanderson That, um… so what do you mean by spren put back together? Questioner Could a Bondsmith combine spren in the way that Shards can be combined? Brandon Sanderson Ok, so the answer is they can be combined. Whether the Bondsmith is a method or not I won't say, but spren can be combined. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/2/#e215 My one question is what kind of surges would these fusion spren give? Is it like one surge from each spren, or do you get two from each in one? And what kind of oaths would there be? And what about fabrials, how would those be affected? Just, why Brandon. Power creep like this is completely unnecessary. Who said it will even happen? The question was can it happen, not will it happen. 2
therunner he/him Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Frustration said: So apparently, you can combine spren. Reveal hidden contents Questioner Can spren be put back together, through Bondsmiths rejoined, as Shards can be joined and combined? Brandon Sanderson That, um… so what do you mean by spren put back together? Questioner Could a Bondsmith combine spren in the way that Shards can be combined? Brandon Sanderson Ok, so the answer is they can be combined. Whether the Bondsmith is a method or not I won't say, but spren can be combined. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/2/#e215 My one question is what kind of surges would these fusion spren give? Is it like one surge from each spren, or do you get two from each in one? And what kind of oaths would there be? And what about fabrials, how would those be affected? Interesting! And I suspect we have actually already seen some 'fusion' spren (or at least pre-cursor to it), namely the Enlightened Spren of Sja-Anat. They are Honor/Cultivation spren with some Odium investiture, and if that Investiture was originally some other (possibly lesser) spren, then they would be fusion spren. We know that in the past Sja-Anat was unable to affect higher spren, so this evolution of her abilities could be in this direction. Surges would then be modified to an extent, possibly even creating previously impossible combinations of Surges. Oaths would be different too, though how is difficult to say, something in line with the Intent of the new spren. And fabrials could possibly work similarly, as they do for enlightened spren. 1
alder24 Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 10 hours ago, Frustration said: My one question is what kind of surges would these fusion spren give? Is it like one surge from each spren, or do you get two from each in one? And what kind of oaths would there be? And what about fabrials, how would those be affected? I don't know if a combination of sprens would become a Radiant spren. Radiants were bonded and formed by Ishar, so I don't think a new combination would become a new order, so no Oaths at all. Surgebinding might still be granted. But I suspect it would be the same Surges they are already, but they would act differently and have different resonances. Like maybe a surge of Gravity allowing you to lash yourself to the specific point or object, but you can't control the strength of it, so you lash yourself to a rock and now you're only affected by rock's natural force of gravity. Well, maybe something more useful than this, but still the same surges with different ways to use them. And you could aslo create fabrials with these new sprens. Why not? 11 hours ago, Frustration said: Just, why Brandon. Power creep like this is completely unnecessary. Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it will be done. Brandon sometimes says this. 1
Returned he/him Posted February 6, 2023 Posted February 6, 2023 Can spren be changed without a corresponding change in how they're perceived? They're primarily cognitive aspects given form through Investiture, and much of their nature is defined by how thinking beings think of them. I wonder if something like this is a consequence of what we're seeing with advancements in fabrial technology. Thoughts about fire and heat give rise to what flamsepren are and draw those spren to the things that people associate with those ideas, but artifabrians have figured out ways to work with that relationship in reverse and produce heat from manipulating an instantiation of those ideas. Once spren stop being (essentially) passive offshoots of people's ideas, maybe their natures will become wildly more malleable.
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