Quick Fix 64: Spies in Starsight

[Amanuensis he/him]

Someone with better memory of my recent games. I can’t remember who, but I seem to recall v-reading someone for building an early case against me in a game, but I think I was wrong in the end. Was that also Mat?

ED1T:

I think it was LG84 and Shadow maybe? Or the reason I doubted Archer would flip red.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Amanuensis

[Stick. she/her]

2 hours ago, Kasimir said:

FYI I'm referring to the one from the penultimate cycle where he just shows up and votes you. You were Elim confirmed from the final cycle, no?

True.

2 hours ago, Kasimir said:

I mean...he voted when he didn't need to, didn't he?

But this is something we've already seen E!xino do, to be fair. So it doesn't count as him making a conscious effort to post more.

2 hours ago, Kasimir said:

Actually no I have a question.

We argued a lot in LG90 about the right way to read Archivist - I felt Archivist's vote was TWTBAW and his team should've talked him out of it, you felt it was just straightforwardly Evil. We seem to have swapped positions here - partly as I'm more null on Nerdy than E reading him right now. 

Does this affect your read of the situation? I guess it's true Nerdy's vote was more naked and less gerrymandered than Archivist's.

I think Archivist's situation was slightly different for the reasons you've noted here, yeah. Archivist's vote seemed more overtly opportunistic.

2 hours ago, Amanuensis said:

I feel like this sequence is AI. Someone help me figure out which direction. I'm indecisive.

ED1T:

@The Bookwyrm if you don't want to be hasty with your next vote, what steps are you actively taking in finding a less-hasty vote?

Tbh I think Bookwyrm village after all

1 hour ago, Kasimir said:

@_Stick_, another question for you. If you were unsure about the Danex train because of Silver, wouldn't it be better to join Aman on Wiz or vote me? Because you ask Szeth about the consequences of a tie but it'd functionally be a no lynch or a 50-50 chance Danex dies, and that's sort of what you're trying to avoid.

Yeah I definitely did not intend to end the cycle as a non-voter. I planned to look for other options in maybe Mat/Silver or something, I hadn't decided yet. I wasn't thinking about Wiz all that much at that juncture and I would not have joined your train.

54 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

IDK. Part of me thinks that if they think JNV is Winz, they're just going to flip JNV anyway because why not, wincon right there. But if we believe the Danex train isn't pure, then this really narrows down the pool.

In a V!Aman and/or V!Hael world, both of them immediately have a way of narrowing a potential Elim to hiding among three people on the train (i.e. whoever isn't them and isn't JNV.)

Is this an acceptable outcome? Or do they withhold and figure they'll come back and finish JNV later or try to ML JNV?

Perhaps the elims sent in the kill as soon as they identified JNV as IC/Winzik off that post about rereading rules, patted themselves on the back, saw that the lead train plus counter train were village (again assuming v!you), and called it a day. As in, they might not have been around EoD when Danex received more votes - if the state of the votes they last saw was when you were the leading train, then they wouldn't really have thought too much about JNV's flip narrowing things down.

35 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

I'm trying to figure out what made you call the post "extremely suspicious", comment line by line on said post about why you thought so, and then reportedly "hesitate to vote them based off just this post".

I mostly just wanted to vote Hael there cuz he was online and I knew he would respond - and he did. But thanks for reminding me @Ookla Carried by the Wind has not said anything this cycle.

38 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

That makes me think Nerdy didn't actually ISO xino and just made up something to join the train.

That was more-or-less my impression of them C1, except swap 'to join the train' out for 'to contribute through a vote'. Trouble is I'm unsure of how to read it, even if I'm leaning every so slightly in the positive direction.

37 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

I copied Stick's vote count and missed Silvereye's vote. Probably because I didn't know who that was so didn't remember a name to put in the vote count as voting for Dannex.

Tbh I don't think I have ever posted an accurate vote count in SE history

37 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said:

You don't want to know how much I control F'ed your name and just stared at your posts confused. I am still very confused.

If Wiz/Aman are E/E I will throw hands U_U

17 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Someone with better memory of my recent games. I can’t remember who, but I seem to recall v-reading someone for building an early case against me in a game, but I think I was wrong in the end. Was that also Mat?

I think that might've been Archer actually.

[Amanuensis he/him]

13 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

I think that might've been Archer actually.

That checks out. The immediate red flip would taint any further parallels, and I actually think Mat came to defend me later.

FTR, I do lean v!Mat here. I could see him being done with my antics from MR57 and LG91. That would be fresher in his mind then my last village game in this style.

[Kasimir he/him]

7 minutes ago, Ookla the Myopic said:

I...I can't quite remember exactly why and it is bugging me. AHAH! I remember it was me thinking that Aman and Bookwyrm are teamed, a post by Aman about Bookwyrm and someone else being chill? I seriously can't remember anything, I'm going a bit crazy and I think it's because I'm getting sick. Literally yesterday I set up a board game downstairs, went upstairs and had such a moment of disconnected reality that I didn't really remember setting it up.

Please rest and take care of yourself >>

Do I take it it's parasitic on E!Bookwyrm?

7 minutes ago, Ookla the Myopic said:

Generally I think a distinction can be made from when I'm trying too hard. If I'm paranoiding my self to the moon and back, I'm likely village. If I'm not paranoiding but trying too hard, I'm evil. 

Fair, but this was also a more basic point: I feel like it takes a base level of comfort to slide into the thread and just go "wow, Village FUD" instead of blending in the way E!you usually does, just pokevote someone and vanish. I do feel E!you overstates sometimes when trying to blend. It's where I am right now anyway, where it comes to you.

6 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

After reading your post I don't get why you voted Bookwyrm cause I mostly agree with this second paragraph here, and I didn't see you dispute it anywhere in your post. Ignoring all that, though, this turn I think Bookwyrm has been pretty villagery and I'm more than happy v reading him right now. I like his questioning of the xino train and his responses to questions.

Because I also didn't like the framing of his post, as I said in my earlier post this D2 - the one responding to you and outlining the structural similarities between how Bookwyrm frames his suspicions in the one E!Bookwyrm case. You've argued with me in LG91 about the extent to which we can expect teammates to dissuade rash courses of actions, and I've pointed out that historically Bookwyrm doesn't care: V or E, he still votes on highly populated trains, e.g. your QF, and then getting unnecessarily sussed for voting you D1 in LG91. It wasn't until Stick's prompt and Bookwyrm's reply that I started to seriously entertain V!Bookwyrm. And I was doing the mass re-read and reworking all the way through, which takes time, as I've alluded to in the thread. It's kind of hard for me to solidify a view until that's done, and even then, views shift a lot as a result of my going post-by-post.

tldr; it's early D2, he can take some pressure, and part of it was the thought of what I said in response to you late D1: sure, it's hard to get a good read off Bookwyrm with a single datapoint but I was hoping that pressuring him would get better results.

11 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

I guess that's why you say e!you = e!Kas, but again, I don't think that's necessarily true. It's definitely within your e!meta to pull that in a v/v

I would agree with this, but then the reason is kind of obvious......

12 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

I know this doesn't mean anything coming from me, but yeah. It was... 11pm, I think? I'd just came home from work and was about to go to bed when I remembered the game had started, so I logged on just to check my alignment. It was a rash decision that I definitely would not have made rashly as elim  No comment about whether IC!me would do that though. But I'll also say that IC me would not have logged into the doc right then, I'd have probably waited until after I posted again in the morning to try to muddle the timestamps.

It's the main V!Mat point I have in your favour apart from your tone/the feel of your indecision, TBH. It's less the rashness, more that I feel something like this is a deliberate play, and I don't think one just drops something on your team like this as a fait accompli. Small things yes, thread votes yes, but if you're going to gambit/pull a play, I sort of feel you want to make sure the team is on board with it first. Lone wolfing it isn't very prosocial, especially if you're one of the team's few thread control players, which may or may not be true, IDK, we're talking the hypothetical E!Mat world here.

No comment on IC you, not interested  I am simple man. If you are V, I don't want you dead. If you are E, I want you dead.

14 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

None of those three/four players who expressed interest bothered to find one either, and just based on who had voted on the main trains and who was around and active I almost didn't see a point. Which is a bad mindset, but I knew that as my Stick read was gut I wouldn't be able to make a cohesive case without spending more time than I was willing to spend on a Sunday. And it was the same with finding another alternative. I got to the thread late and wasn't in a place where I could sit down and fully commit so I played it casual and lamented from the sidelines and the decisions of everyone else :P.

Yeah, but it's not equal to me. Hael didn't care about Danex. I wanted to die. Aman E!read Danex. You're the only one of the four of them who actively did not want the main train or the CW so it felt like a very odd sort of position to me. Fair enough though about the Sunday, I guess I'm at the same place I am with regard to Stick - I'm fine flagging it for now, don't really know if I want to go ham on it, but if I were to E!read you, I think that's one place the hinge would be.

17 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

I didn't switch, so that's a moot point.

You didn't, but you posted that you wanted to, so I do take that as something that makes me question how committed you really were to V!Danex and if it was post-hoc.

18 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

How are you comfortable with a ? Aman xD I guess you didn't say you were comfortable, to be fair. But Aman feels like a player where ? should become sus sooner rather than later.

Because only two players caught Aman D1/D2 in AG8, and that was TJ and Stick, and I'm neither of them, I just work differently. It's not a cop-out, it's a recognition I need more time to identify V or E Aman. If you noticed, every single consideration I had for E!Aman in LG91 was based off Xino suspicion, Xino's actions, or mech and distro analysis, none of which are applicable here. This is partly why I'm doing the re-reads and actively asking questions about things he's said. I'm not stopping you or Wiz either, which at the very least shows that I'm indifferent while I work out where I stand.

I guess the short answer is I have to believe he is findable and that I am capable of revising my reads correctly in a timely manner, or I wouldn't be able to play this game for second-guessing myself.

24 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

You're making my statement that I think there's probably an elim on the main trains exclusive to the thought that there are some on the side trains, which is obviously not the case as there is probably more than 1 elim in this game. I proposed an elim on the main train for the same reason Stick did earlier-- it makes sense. As does some on the side trains. Me saying that doesn't mean I don't think there aren't any elsewhere.

Actually, I was looking at your statement that we should look at the side-trains, made during D1 EoD, as you tend to not want to do side-train analysis, so that was something I found odd. Fair enough. But if that's the case, how does it make you feel that your main two candidates for the exe that you would vote are both on the main trains?

8 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said:

Yes please, fliplessness is no fun to deal with. It adds headache to headache or perhaps it multiplies headache by headache.

Is this a good time to admit I have a blackout flipless game meant to be run in my LG slot.

26 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

Like. What did you want me to do? In my mind, I had two choices-- either I could kill you over Dannex, vice versa, or I could do nothing. I definitely wasn't going to the former, so I had to be fine with the tie. In situations like that, in the back of my mind is always the phrase "maybe they know something I don't". In essence it's the fact that my reads are not law and there is a village for a reason-- one villager can't win the game by themselves  So I hoped that dannex was e and that y'all were geniuses but I wasn't willing to jeopardize my own read because I did still read him village.

I think I had QF63 in mind here. I can understand your not wanting to vote Dannex and being strongly convinced that Dannex was Village, but the last time I felt this strongly about a player, I was very incentivised to flash wagon save them, even though that was quite honestly a bloody disaster. So this question is me trying to understand what's going on in your head: how do you both refer to Dannex as your strongest Village read, and not actually want to intervene in the lynch.

One Village can't win the game by themselves but if you don't have your own convictions, what do you have? But ehhh an approach issue I guess.

29 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Why in my case? For Hael, I feel like he's the most overtly villagery, but now that I've come around to a v!Wizard world, I worry that he was keen to do the Flashwagon with me since the outcome wouldn't matter so much as whether or not he'd earn my trust. As for Devo, I never feel like I can read her accurately (or trend toward being suspicious of Devo 9 times out of 10, especially during the early game). TBH I haven't really even attempted to figure out Fifth's alignment because I kinda trust other people (aka you) to catch him first, but also the fact he's posted as many times as he did and nothing stood out to me one way or the other is not a great sign. That + v!me, v!Kas, maaaaaybe v!Mat? I'm thinking of this dataset in terms of who I expect would have figured out JNV being in the IC. I have been considering adding Mat into that grouping too.

Okay, fair. One more question though: overtly Villagery in what sense?

Well, I lied, a couple more. If you're concerned about Devo accuracy, do you take that to be a potential worry about your own read of Devo?

Fair on Fifth, have been going back and forth on what to think.

31 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Basically, if I really did catch e!Wizard openly lamenting at the villager FUD, I don't think his approach today would be to vote me. I felt his reread Aman 4x post was pretty genuine. I don't expect an elim to reread that many times (which I believe he did) just to throw out a OMGUS vote.

Alright, yeah, that makes sense to me.

8 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Someone with better memory of my recent games. I can’t remember who, but I seem to recall v-reading someone for building an early case against me in a game, but I think I was wrong in the end. Was that also Mat?

K I was gonna guess maybe QF59 but that's definitely not the game so I think I derped there.

If it's a recent game, it has to be in the set of <MR56, QF59, BT1, LG83, MR57, LG84.> We can rule out QF59, BT1, and MR57. I doubt it's LG83 - the thread death alone caused me to go kayana. So it's in the set of <MR56, and LG84.> With MR56, it'd have to be Stick, almost - there's maybe Stink but your V read of Stink was based off his building a case against Mat instead, so IDK if that's what you were thinking of. Your V read of Archer was based off the role claim which you later took back. You sussed Devo and anyway Devo didn't case you. But I don't recall Stick building a case against you, so it can't be MR56 either.

LG84? Archer started making a case for E!you but I don't think you V!read him as you CWed him and got him lynched. And he was Evil anyway.

Oh yeah @Ookla the Tall I guess if you want an honest response, there's that too.

I want to make sure if I sus and go after Aman, it's for pure reasons. LG84 was a clusterchull in every sense of the word. I've been there, I don't wanna be there again. I want to make sure I'm honest and fair when I take my shot, rather than paranoiding on him because he's Aman or just unfairly respect-paranoiaing him.

So that's something ticking in the back of my mind when I do my reads. You'll notice I'm not defending him or stridently objecting to his train, just trying to get info to make up my own mind. You can see this as well at work in my refusal to paranoid on Illwei in our previous LG. I know where my weaknesses are, particularly where they involve being unfair to other players and trying to work on them/fix them matters to me. I'll probably get the reads wrong sometimes but it's still important to me to try to adjust the way I approach them all the same.

Actually yeah wait it can't be LG84 either, the team was Illwei-Archer-Shadow-JNV, JNV absolutely did not case you because you were their lifetime achievement.

...

AFAICT it wasn't LG71 either so this has officially become Someone Else's Problem  

18 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

But this is something we've already seen E!xino do, to be fair. So it doesn't count as him making a conscious effort to post more.

Why doesn't it? The flight reason would've been good enough to stall suspicions. He'd look weirder if he didn't.

21 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Perhaps the elims sent in the kill as soon as they identified JNV as IC/Winzik off that post about rereading rules, patted themselves on the back, saw that the lead train plus counter train were village (again assuming v!you), and called it a day. As in, they might not have been around EoD when Danex received more votes - if the state of the votes they last saw was when you were the leading train, then they wouldn't really have thought too much about JNV's flip narrowing things down.

It's possible. But it's something I want to keep in mind given the hypothesis that the Danex train wasn't pure. The more impure the Danex train is, the more kayana this is.

[Amanuensis he/him]

9 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Okay, fair. One more question though: overtly Villagery in what sense?

Being around at rollover and open to abruptly shifting the wagons. Assuming v!Kas, e!Hael shouldn't care too much about who flips. Also being immediately honest with his noticing of JNV's likelihood of ICness. On surface level, it seems too counterintuitive for an elim to openly state. He could have easily supported my theory or not commented at all. I think e!Hael is capable of playing more brazenly to earn trust, but that's too hard to distinguish from v!Hael for me to land any one way. 

15 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Well, I lied, a couple more. If you're concerned about Devo accuracy, do you take that to be a potential worry about your own read of Devo?

My problem rn is I have no read of Devo. I have a positive read of Stick, you, and Mat, which essentially leads me to the conclusion of 1 (maybe 2) among Hael, Devo, and Fifth, hence the trio of votes. (The order was intentional btw)

19 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

AFAICT it wasn't LG71 either so this has officially become Someone Else's Problem  

Sorry for making you do all that work! I just had a weird bout of deja vu and realized it was an amalgam of a couple LG84 things. Either way, I don't think e!Mat pushes me vs a case of v!Mat paranoia. I also think D2!Wiz looks solid enough, and I'm v!leaning Bookwyrm too.

[Mat he/him]

23 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

That checks out. The immediate red flip would taint any further parallels, and I actually think Mat came to defend me later.

FTR, I do lean v!Mat here. I could see him being done with my antics from MR57 and LG91. That would be fresher in his mind then my last village game in this style.

For the record, I’m not so blind to miss the obvious playstyle difference between LG91 and this game  But I also would have probably just v!read your play for awhile there. I also don’t think you’re someone who can be playstyle read that easily but I can’t use that as evidence against you because it’s a bad piece of evidence. I guess I’m just saying it’s NAI to me.

Kas, I’ll respond to your post when I’m not on mobile.

[Stick. she/her]

1 hour ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

I copied Stick's vote count and missed Silvereye's vote. Probably because I didn't know who that was so didn't remember a name to put in the vote count as voting for Dannex.

Devo/Silvereye not E/E?

Villagers are Wiz, Kas, Bookwyrm, Devo and let’s throw Aman in there for funzies. List is unordered. 

So elims are among TUN, Silvereye, Xino, Nerdy, Insanity, Hael, Almond, Mat, Fifth

That’s too many people, so removing Nerdy temporarily for reasons outlined previously and Almond and Insanity for being absent: TUN, Silvereye, xino, Hael, Mat, Fifth

List is still too long but. It’s 1 am and I’m not comfortable with the state of the votes right now 

[Kasimir he/him]

1 minute ago, Amanuensis said:

Assuming v!Kas, e!Hael shouldn't care too much about who flips.

In theory yes. There was Mint Heron-gate, though I don't recall if Hael intervened if things got dicey for Rae.

3 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Also being immediately honest with his noticing of JNV's likelihood of ICness. On surface level, it seems too counterintuitive for an elim to openly state. He could have easily supported my theory or not commented at all. I think e!Hael is capable of playing more brazenly to earn trust, but that's too hard to distinguish from v!Hael for me to land any one way. 

This I would agree with.

3 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

My problem rn is I have no read of Devo. I have a positive read of Stick, you, and Mat, which essentially leads me to the conclusion of 1 (maybe 2) among Hael, Devo, and Fifth, hence the trio of votes. (The order was intentional btw)

Hael > Devo > Fifth presumably?

3 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Sorry for making you do all that work! I just had a weird bout of deja vu and realized it was an amalgam of a couple LG84 things. Either way, I don't think e!Mat pushes me vs a case of v!Mat paranoia. I also think D2!Wiz looks solid enough, and I'm v!leaning Bookwyrm too.

Eh, I was curious.

16 hours ago, Szeth_Pancakes said:

Dannnnnex (6): Kas, Aman, JNV, Silvereye, Hael, Bookwyrm

I see the problem: based off the state of your credences, you're more or less committed to a pure Danex train, E!Silver, or a mistake in the <Hael, me, Bookwyrm> vicinity.

3 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

Kas, I’ll respond to your post when I’m not on mobile.

Ngl I'll be more active when I'm not dying over my report so I feel you >>

[Amanuensis he/him]

4 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Hael > Devo > Fifth presumably?

Right. Hael's got some things in his favor, while I do believe he could have done those things while an elim, Devo is a big null, and Fifth I kinda just expect more from? I was hoping to get some group discussion going on them with my votes, since I'm down for a Silvereye yeet but would prefer more discussion outside the low-actives.

4 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

I see the problem: based off the state of your credences, you're more or less committed to a pure Danex train, E!Silver, or a mistake in the <Hael, me, Bookwyrm> vicinity.

I hadn't really considered those who voted Dannnex tbh. I've been thinking more about the JNV kill and who I think would have caught them.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Amanuensis

[Mat he/him]

Aman Nerdy

Hmm

[Kasimir he/him]

1 minute ago, _Stick_ said:

That’s too many people, so removing Nerdy temporarily for reasons outlined previously and Almond and Insanity for being absent: TUN, Silvereye, xino, Hael, Mat, Fifth

List is still too long but. It’s 1 am and I’m not comfortable with the state of the votes right now 

FWIW Silver is currently reading the thread so it may be possible to get something off Silver.

I guess my final pool for today is in <Xino, Silver, TUN, Nerdy> - I am not fully happy with the Almond and Insanity removal (on my part, in that pool) but IDK if I am comfortable going after them today. 

And Stick, I guess my other thought is this: I feel like the corollary is that regardless of how you expect E!Xino to play this, I am not sure how well this fits into V!Xino parameters, hence my linking that game. I feel like you sort of either have to agree he was so busy this would've happened no matter his alignment, postulate he's Evil, or postulate that he's deliberately acting this way to mask it for future games. I don't feel there's much in between.

2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Right. Hael's got some things in his favor, while I do believe he could have done those things while an elim, Devo is a big null, and Fifth I kinda just expect more from? I was hoping to get some group discussion going on them with my votes, since I'm down for a Silvereye yeet but would prefer more discussion outside the low-actives.

Fair, yeah. 

Fifth is more a question mark for me at this juncture, I suppose. 

Technically:

<Not Today>: Insanity, Almond, Fifth
<No>: Stick, Mat, Wiz, Bookwyrm, Hael, Devo
<Not My Problem>: Aman
<Yes>: Xino, Silver, TUN, Nerdy

Looks like that should be everyone. Italics I am not fully sure they belong there but am ok with litigating/being convinced otherwise.

[Stick. she/her]

4 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:

Aman Nerdy

Hmm

Hmm  Has your opinion on Aman changed? 

2 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

And Stick, I guess my other thought is this: I feel like the corollary is that regardless of how you expect E!Xino to play this, I am not sure how well this fits into V!Xino parameters, hence my linking that game. I feel like you sort of either have to agree he was so busy this would've happened no matter his alignment, postulate he's Evil, or postulate that he's deliberately acting this way to mask it for future games. I don't feel there's much in between.

He did say he was on a flight, so I’m assuming he is busier at the moment as well so you’re right that it could easily have come from either alignment xD My life would be a lot easier if Xino posted a reads list  @xinoehp512 just one village and one elim read would suffice if you’re busy

I have to keep fighting the urge to ping Silvereye again. Patience.  

[Amanuensis he/him]

On 12/9/2022 at 11:27 PM, Szeth_Pancakes said:

If you don't post for two cycles in a row, you will be removed from the game and, if one is available, replaced by a pinch hitter. If none are available, you die.

Is anyone in danger of this rn?

[Kasimir he/him]

Just now, Amanuensis said:

Is anyone in danger of this rn?

No. Insanity and Almond just got warned and showed up this cycle.

[Amanuensis he/him]

8 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

No. Insanity and Almond just got warned and showed up this cycle.

That's good. Hopefully they contribute. Just Xino and Fifth who haven't posted today?

Edited December 19, 2022 by Amanuensis

[Kasimir he/him]

2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

That's good. Hopefully they contribute. Just Xino and Fifth who haven't posted today?

Silver hasn't either.

2 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

That's good. Hopefully they contribute

Insanity left a promissary note to come back later, Almond voted for Xino. Worth noting this is Almond's first game, and Insanity's second (like Nerdy.) Wondering if there's a better format to ease them into it, e.g. Stick's asking for one V read one E read.

[Szeth Pancakes he/they]

15 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Is anyone in danger of this rn?

No. Insanity and Almond both posted today.

Edit: didn’t see Kas’s post

Edited December 19, 2022 by Szeth_Pancakes

[Amanuensis he/him]

Bleh. So what I'm hearing is there's no yeet candidate active today to properly defend themselves? I'd much rather kill a more experienced player than a semi-inactive newbie tbh. Any takers?

[Stick. she/her]

4 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Silver hasn't either.

Insanity left a promissary note to come back later, Almond voted for Xino. Worth noting this is Almond's first game, and Insanity's second (like Nerdy.) Wondering if there's a better format to ease them into it, e.g. Stick's asking for one V read one E read.

I think it’s worth asking for their opinions on xino

@InfiniteInsanity @ExoticAlmond what are your thoughts on Xino? he has made one post so you can form an opinion quicker. If you’ve skimmed through the last cycle I’d also like to hear your thoughts on Haelbarde.

I think Silvereye has checked out again 

[Amanuensis he/him]

Anyone not lazy got a handy dandy VC?

[xinoehp512 he/him]

27 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

He did say he was on a flight, so I’m assuming he is busier at the moment as well so you’re right that it could easily have come from either alignment xD My life would be a lot easier if Xino posted a reads list  @xinoehp512 just one village and one elim read would suffice if you’re busy

V read Mat

E read Nerdy

[Stick. she/her]

3 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Bleh. So what I'm hearing is there's no yeet candidate active today to properly defend themselves? I'd much rather kill a more experienced player than a semi-inactive newbie tbh. Any takers?

Tbh I want to know where Fifth and Hael stand with regards to each other and whether they are willing to bus each other. Neither is here at the moment though. 
Do you have anybody in mind? 

[Amanuensis he/him]

5 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Tbh I want to know where Fifth and Hael stand with regards to each other and whether they are willing to bus each other. Neither is here at the moment though. 
Do you have anybody in mind? 

I guess Devo for now, given they've posted twice in the last four hours responding to Kas inquiries but haven't voted or weighed in on any current candidates.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Amanuensis

[Kasimir he/him]

VC:

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Nerdy (2): Xino, Mat
Silver (2): Stick, Kas
Fifth (1): Aman
Xino (2): Nerdy, Almond

Possible for this to be very wrong. It's 6AM and some of my energy is going to a report due later today :|

7 minutes ago, _Stick_ said:

Tbh I want to know where Fifth and Hael stand with regards to each other and whether they are willing to bus each other. Neither is here at the moment though. 

Slightly out of their active hours IMO.

12 minutes ago, Amanuensis said:

Bleh. So what I'm hearing is there's no yeet candidate active today to properly defend themselves? I'd much rather kill a more experienced player than a semi-inactive newbie tbh. Any takers?

Anyone not on my No. Negotiable people, maybe, if there's reason for it I can get on board with.

Edit:

Literally just got ninjaed.

The new actual VC >>

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Nerdy (2): Xino, Mat
Silver (2): Stick, Kas
Devo (1): Aman
Xino (2): Nerdy, Almond

Edited December 19, 2022 by Kasimir

[Amanuensis he/him]

4 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

VC:

Possible for this to be very wrong. It's 6AM and some of my energy is going to a report due later today :|

Slightly out of their active hours IMO.

Anyone not on my No. Negotiable people, maybe, if there's reason for it I can get on board with.

Edit:

Literally just got ninjaed.

The new actual VC >>

What're your Devo thoughts so far? Has anything pinged you one way or the other?