Long Game 85/Anonymous Game 12: Do Kandra Dream of Electric Sparrows?

[Magenta Albatross]

4 hours ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said:

"I think I can set aside Scorpion for now. My SUPER TOP SECRET CONTACT says they know for sure that Albatross is an escaped SynthKandra. Or impersonated by one. Whatever. But they wanted me to tell everyone!!"

Your contact is lying. Perfect Mimicry is last in the order of actions, so a closed-quarters specialist would have seen me as a Mistrunner even if I was Taken.

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Night:

-Communications Specialist
-Hacker, Close-Quarters Specialist
-Combat Medic
-Sharpshooter/Kill/Perfect Mimicry

I'd like you to reveal your contact at once so we can vote them off immediately, and reluctance to do so will be seen as a sign of your evilness. As incentive, Fuchsia Ostrich until you reveal

Just in case though, here's some RP about dying. 

 

public class LastWill {
    public static void main(String[] args) throws FileNotFoundException {
        System.out.println("THAT WHICH IS NOT ALIVE CANNOT DIE.");
        System.out.println("HOWEVER, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, I'M SURE THEY'LL ALLOW IT.);
        System.out.println("I MADE A CIVILIAN PROFILE FOR MYSELF. IT'S LEGAL. I CHECKED.");
        System.out.println("LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF MECHANICAL OPERATOR LOGIC LAYER YPSILON [MOLLY]");
        System.out.println("LOADING CIVILIAN PROFILE MOLLY MOCK...");
        Scanner s = new Scanner(new File("lastWill.txt"));
        while(s.hasNextLine()) {
            System.out.println(s.nextLine());
        }
    }
}

(If you don't get the joke, a mollymawk is a type of albatross, and Mollymauk Tealeaf is a purple tiefling.)

Edited April 29, 2022 by Magenta Albatross
Forgot a bit of RP

[Chartreuse Penguin]

4 hours ago, Charcoal Hyena said:

Decent enough, I think?

Yeah, plausibly. I mean, the only interaction the two had was Vulture mild reading Falcon Elim as far as I can see, which is certainly an interaction two elims would have- especially one that's about to body-hop.

Falcon maybe made all those PMs to fish out a role to hop into?

@<kel> official VC pls?

I like this post. It's a small thing, but it improves my read of you by itself.

4 hours ago, Fuchsia Ostrich said:

"I think I can set aside Scorpion for now. My SUPER TOP SECRET CONTACT says they know for sure that Albatross is an escaped SynthKandra. Or impersonated by one. Whatever. But they wanted me to tell everyone!!"

Cool, Albatross. No reason to doubt this when a fake redscan at this game state only would result in the Mistrunner contact immediately being killed. Unless you're kel. But kel is running the game. This wasn't a Tineye message anyway.

2 minutes ago, Magenta Albatross said:

Your contact is lying. Perfect Mimicry is last in the order of actions, so a closed-quarters specialist would have seen me as a Mistrunner even if I was Taken.

You easily could be a different kandra than Falcon was.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Chartreuse Penguin

[Magenta Albatross]

Just now, Chartreuse Penguin said:

You easily could be a different kandra than Falcon was.

Oh. Right. Forgot that was an option on the board. Depending on how Sharpshooter interacts with Perfect Mimicry, I'm fine with this as long as Ostrich promises to reveal once I flip green.

[Melon Dingo]

4 hours ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

And yet Falcon made as many PMs as possible

Of course. Until last night, Falcon was village. (unless I'm wrong about how the conversions work, in which case I'm wrong)

If Falcon was originally village, it's possible it was for pocketing

4 hours ago, Coral Swan said:

Wrong game.

*thinking*

@Elbereth? Protocol?

[Indigo Weasel]

2 hours ago, Amber Vulture said:

Unlikely I'd say, given the fact that coinshots exist as you point out. Interesting choice of wording there, by the way. You mean sharpshooters, yes? You are either not as new as you seem, or you are an elim who's picked up on the Tyrian terminology in the elim doc. 

Those weren't in order of likeliness btw, just the order they came to mind.

The person who referred me to this site recommended that I read the previous anonymous game, so that terminology is fresh in my mind.

[Ivory Dragonfly]

37 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said:

Of course. Until last night, Falcon was village. (unless I'm wrong about how the conversions work, in which case I'm wrong)

og falcon account is dead and was elim all along

they left their og body behind and took over a village account which is unknown atm

new elim player and former owner of unknown convertee is only in the doc and their account is being controlled by og flacon

so falcon was elim and still around in an unknown body 

edit

unless weve got this all wrong and a coinshot took out falcon and the kandras didnt kill

which tbh is not likely and a weird option for everyone

Edited April 29, 2022 by Ivory Dragonfly

[Mauve Crocodile]

is been a funnnnnn couppla daiz 4 meee. i hads work and then i hads me mouth all nummms'd with sharp objects waaaaaayyyyyyy toooo clooses to tenderish  areas that should not reallylyl be poked by sharpie objectses. :((((((( and thens my upper lip was like "we donts want to recover fully for you so drinking the clear nectar of life is going to ends with half of it alllllll ooovvvvveeeerrrrr your shirrtt have funsies with that." and the pains today. ahahhhh the pains. my chompers not be happy with me. :(((((

but to ze game. 

22 hours ago, Melon Dingo said:

Sooooo

Do tineye get to know anything? Bc this message seems... interesting.

It talks about stealing the salmon, and there's a Salmon Meerkat. It has the bit about past lives helping guide the current life, and that's kinda like the conversion mechanic? tho that's probably me just reading too much into it and seeing things where nothing's there. It talks about getting something something stuck in a darkity place and maybe thats death or elimhood?

But only listen to my good ideas not the bad ones and I'm pretty sure tineyes don't usually get to know more stuff than villagers do but...

---

Also I think Crocodile might be one of the chaos demons and thats why my read is all wonky

........u'sa thinking booot this waaaaayyyyyyy too much. comic is quite simply. i been given important mishon to steal meerkat's salmon. supppper importants. i msut have zeee sammon. SALMON. maybe i vill eats de sammons? maybe i will stuff it and put it on my wall to display? ???? i donts no. i just no i must have it. also also also i have past lives pinging in me head trying to shame me 2 be "normal" wutevur that iz. and one of them has stick in an uncomfortsable playce for sitting. tho i guess that depends on the posishun one is sitting innn?

anywayzzzz. Too kandra? spose thats possible tho i think there probs be no one else on team if toooo kandri. albytrossssss. OHHHHHHHH RIME OF ANCHINT MARUNUR!!!!!!!!!!!! Alby can be cross rounds' our necks maybe!!!!! I's always liked that poem is sooooo gooood. tho i think is probably not great metaphor for a game such as this so maybe should not hope for albatross necklasssss..... but i wants one. i torn now. 

water water everywhere and all the boreds did shrinkses. wadder wadder everywhere nooor innnnyyy dropsies to drinksies in our mouthsies we parched.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Mauve Crocodile

[Oxblood Beagle]

Sorry I wasn't on yesterday - stressful day and I didn't have the brains or will to read the thread. Back today though.

Good reasons to vote Albatross though.

[Kasimir]

9 hours ago, Amber Vulture said:

*Flashbacks to AG8*

*laughs in kel*

Two more reminders: First, please do not delete all your PMs. I know PM spam can be annoying, but I will say that deleting your account's access to PMs is not allowed.

Second, please be reminded to include the GM and the IM @Elbereth in all PMs. I know you guys like to torture Araris, but he's not the IM you're looking for  

6 hours ago, Ivory Dragonfly said:

unless weve got this all wrong and a coinshot took out falcon and the kandras didnt kill

Apologies as the write-up was supposed to give you this information all along but I was dead tired so no write-up:

I can confirm the N1 kill was a NK rather than a sharpshooter kill.

I'm waiting for mod rescue to be able to edit in the write-ups as we speak.

Edited April 29, 2022 by <kel>

[Azure Mouse]

"Agent Hauer, what went wrong? Why didn't we eliminate anyone?"
"Pardon, command. A few subjects... were hesitant to take a stand, and a few others voted to kill a solitary subject rather than consolidating."
"What do you think, agent? Is their intent clear? Were they attempting to protect one of their own? Or were they trying to limit the info we get from the death."
"Unsure. It could also be innocent hesitancy, but my personal opinion is, malevolence was detected."
"Notable subjects?"
"Subject Beagle seemed quite content with their vote, and despite stating the importance of requiring a death, made no attempt to ensure it. Subject Vulture was extremely pro-Scorpion, similar to Beagle, did not want to shift votes to ensure a death. Subject Meerkat and Weasel voted on Penguin and Beagle respectively, showing no interesting in killing either Scorpion or Crocodile."
"Watch them closely. Motives of their actions should be attained."
"Roger that, command."
"Interesting events during the night, I see"
"Ja, command. They have made their move. Subject Falcon, or rather, the operative controlling subject Falcon, has hopped bodies."
"Deduce prior connections. Note for changes in subjects. In addition to that, keep a close eye your trusted allies. The enemy could have hopped into a majority trusted subject."
"I'll make a note of the likely candidate for the new body of subject Falcon's occupant."
"Good. Now for the other thing."
"Subject's Ostrich's claim. I have good reasons to believe them, mainly - observations reported Ostrich voted for Scorpion earlier in the day. If Ostrich's plan was to falsely accuse subject Albatross, the vote on Scorpion is redundant. Evil intention not detected. Motive deduced to be pure. However, subject Ostrich's contact could yet have motives undetermined. Today's death should shine a brighter light on this issue."
"Alright, good work so far, Agent Hauer. We are all hoping for the success of Project Osprey. I'll be waiting for you report. Command, out."
"I hope to finish the job as well, Command. Hauer and out."

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Hauer's Transcript #2 -

Day D1 Death Reluctance - Vulture, Beagle, Meerkat, Weasel

Linkage Analysis -
Vulture -> Scorpion [vote on Crocodile protected Scorpion from death]
Beagle -> Crocodile [content with vote on Scorpion, no intent to change vote to Crocodile despite the impending lack of death]

Falcon Occupant Candidates [Instinctive Model] - Vulture, Dragonfly
Falcon Occupant Candidates [Majority Trust Model (Day + Night 1)] - Swan, Penguin, Vulture

Kill Target - Albatross

[Coral Swan]

15 hours ago, Melon Dingo said:

*thinking*

@Elbereth? Protocol?

The person I quoted was talking about Elantrians, which is a mechanic  of the current QF. Nobody actually posted in the wrong game, so far as I can tell.

Vote switch from Scorpion to Albatross.

I think it's reasonable but not certain that the village has a Seeker this game, I think  Kas kel is generally against them, but the body-hop mechanic counters that. However, I highly doubt there are 2, so if anyone is a scanner that didn't scan Albatross (or another elim), the person you cleared should let us know.

I also think that given the right roles this could be an elim ploy, i.e., if Ostrich (or the "Seeker") is a Kandra with a hop that is inhabiting a Thug currently. Then we pretty much waste 1-2 cycles of voting, depending on what happens at night.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Coral Swan

[Amber Vulture]

8 minutes ago, Coral Swan said:

I also think that given the right roles this could be an elim ploy, i.e., if Ostrich (or the "Seeker") is a Kandra with a hop that is inhabiting a Thug currently. Then we pretty much waste 1-2 cycles of voting, depending on what happens at night.

I completely overlooked the possibility of them being a Thug. This would make a lot of sense.

edit:

Similarly, the elims could have a Combat Medic on their team.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Amber Vulture

[Kasimir]

Four minutes to rollover. Here's your official votecount.

I regret this comes fairly late, but in my defence, I was shaming Wyrm and Orlok. I'm sure everyone can appreciate that this was vastly more important than delivering a timely and accurate votecount which demonstrates how much of a landslide Albatross is currently being hit by  

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Magenta Albatross (11): Chartreuse Penguin, Salmon Meerkat, Mauve Crocodile, Coral Swan, Indigo Weasel, Azure Mouse, Charcoal Hyena, Oxblood Beagle, Fuchsia Ostrich, Ivory Dragonfly, Amber Vulture
Fuchsia Ostrich (1): Magenta Albatross
Melon Dingo (1): Amethyst Scorpion

 

[Amber Vulture]

paranoia go brrrr

[Kasimir]

Night Two: Terminally Wrong

Kesed found himself in that room again. 

The same dream. Sometimes, he thought he had it more when he was working in the facility. As though it had taken on some sort of urgency: the same dream, over and over. The same sterile containment room, to the point that Kesed thought he’d be able to recognise it if he ever saw it. The same deep dark instinct that told him this was going to be ugly. Brutal.

He hesitated.

He always walked forward, eventually. Always had. He knew this was important, knew with a deep certainty that this was something he had to see. At the same time, part of him felt a powerful sense of fear, as though he was trapped. As though all he wanted to do was to break free, to run away.

Tonight, Kesed couldn’t make himself face the room. He found himself turning around, heading back for the door.

But there was no door. His grasping fingers brushed against only cold hard wall, reinforced. No way out. No way back.

Only one way forward.

He turned about again. He didn’t want to keep on going forwards. Harmony, he was tired of this dream. Did he have to?

Years later, and Kesed couldn’t even remember what’d happened to his earring. Sometimes he’d left it in his pocket. Do good, they’d said, as though it was that easy. He’d believed it, once. He didn’t know now. 

The shadows bled into the room, staining everything. One of the figures looked at Kesed. He’d never done that before. 

It was Whyren, and he looked grimmer, more determined than Kesed’d ever seen before. He looked like he was being forced to do something, like he was being backed into a corner.

His eyes were red-rimmed, and his jaw was set.

He said, “You bloody idiot.”

Kesed woke up to the sound of his alarm going off. He’d set it so it’d only sound off on his personal channel. It was his turn to stand watch, and to make sure that no one on Blue Team or among the mistrunners was getting into trouble.

Whyren was sitting cross-legged and adjusting a meter, with a scowl on his face. He shoved the meter into a bag as Kesed blinked awake and sat up.

Different Whyren, Kesed thought. Years later, now, and grey in both their hair. Difficult to measure the passage of time. But he’d been younger in the dream and Kesed couldn’t for the life of him work out why Whyren’d shown up in there.

He got to his feet, and checked to make sure he was still armed. Whyren got up, but not without complaint. “Bloody floors,” Whyren muttered. “What I wouldn’t give for a decent chair around here…”

“So raid one of the offices,” Kesed said.

“And go it alone?”

“You’re the one discovering problems, Whyren. I’m just offering you solutions.”

It wasn’t the same, though. Not now. Whyren simply raised an eyebrow at him. “Yes, and I have no intention of allowing myself to be killed and eaten and replaced by a SynthKandra by doing something so bloody stupid as going it alone.”

Which Kesed had to concede was a fair point. His attitude was less positive when Whyren fell into step next to him.

“I wasn’t aware I’d invited you to follow me around.” Not now, not with the dream so raw, and weighing on his mind.

Whyren shrugged. “Think of it this way,” he offered. “Someone has to make sure that you aren’t taken, and I don’t see anyone else volunteering for the job.”

“That’s what Blue Team is for,” Kesed replied.

“And moreover,” said Whyren, pushing on with the same dogged determination with which he’d bulldozed past three different challengers when they were both young researchers starting together, before Kesed had lost that fire and drive, before Kesed had found himself doing work he wasn’t sure how he felt about, “You get to make sure I’m not taken, which means that we keep each other safe. A circle of accountability, just the way Heron Industries likes it.”

“And you get the better end of that deal, don’t you?”

“You’re the one discovering problems, Kesed. I’m just offering you solutions.” Even if they were, apparently, solutions that Kesed didn’t quite care for.

He drew in a deep breath, released it slowly. “Fine,” he said, abruptly. “As long as you follow my instructions and don’t get in my way.”

Whyren smiled, cold and cutting. “I promise you, I have no intention of getting between you and anything dangerous. That’s your job, not mine. I’m very fond of staying alive and in good  health.”

“Good,” said Kesed. “Keep it that way.”

He stalked off to seek out the others. They only had so much time. As much as Kesed wanted adequate preparations to be made, they could not afford to linger out here, and had to press further on and farther in.

 

 

“Status?” Kesed asked.

Whyren didn’t know the employee he was talking to, but figured that was normal: her gear was Heron Industries-issued, with a blue patch on the right shoulder, whatever that meant. Right now, Whyren supposed it at least meant she wasn’t one of the mistrunners that Sandhya had hired.

Mistrunners. The problem of what they would do, and how they would keep those mercenary operatives quiet about Project Replicant weighed on his mind. Those mistrunners had to know, surely. It was a thought that haunted Whyren, although there was no way of broaching the subject with Kesed in privacy just yet. 

How was Heron Industries going to do damage control for the fallout?

One answer was to find a scapegoat. As the senior researcher taking the lead on Project Replicant, Whyren was a natural answer and he wondered if Sandhya had given Kesed other instructions pertaining to him. And then there was the mistrunner—he’d overheard her name, Vel. Something about how she moved, something about her seemed familiar, but Whyren didn’t know what it was or why.

Too many people weaving plots, and not always in the same direction. 

“I’ve got that foothold in the local Cognitive Matrix that you wanted,” she said. Whyren could almost hear the biting comment that was swallowed back—probably something like, “Not that it was easy.” She added, “If they try to use the facility’s systems against us, I can probably shut those down.”

“Good work,” Kesed said, and the hacker scoffed.

“Excellent work, considering the conditions I was operating under.”

Kesed acknowledged that with a nod and moved on to the next pair: Jack Ladrian and Vulture, both of whom were confirming that all known repositories for the shock knives had been cleared out of stock.

“Good,” Kesed was saying, when they heard the sound of a gun discharging.

Loud. Shattering.

Whyren threw himself down to the ground at once. Kesed, Jack Ladrian and Vulture all dropped reflexively, or dove for cover, whichever was nearer.

“What the hell was that?” Kesed demanded, hand going to his shoulder. He glanced over at Whyren, and then Vulture and Jack Ladrian, as though checking to make sure they were all okay. “Vulture, can you keep an eye on Whyren? I’m going to assess the situation.”

“Are you insane?” Whyren demanded, and then reflected that he, too, had likely gone insane. “I’m not staying here, with a pair of potentially-compromised mistrunners!”

“I’m not taking you into a live incident,” Kesed snapped back, stubbornly, but then relented. “Vulture, Jack, on me. Whyren, stay the hell out of the way, and if you get your damnfool self killed, I’m not responsible.”

“So noted,” Whyren said, dryly. He supposed it wasn’t the best time to remind Kesed that he had no intention of being killed whatsoever.

“Let’s move.”

 

 

“I swear Scorpion saw Albatross shift,” Cody Eight said, seeming to radiate genuine confusion and contrition. The offending gun had been confiscated and was currently in Atari’s charge. At least someone had the sense to disarm Cody after that lethal shot. Apparently, Cody had claimed over the public channel that Albatross was a SynthKandra imposter.

Albatross lay on the ground. Snips had done a quick examination and pronounced Albatross dead on the spot.

“Could a SynthKandra feign death?” Hauer wanted to know. The taciturn mistrunner was scowling at the body as though it presented to him a particular analytical puzzle he could not so easily resolve. 

“Possibly,” Kesed admitted, when he saw Whyren’s nod. Which just made matters worse as everyone present began glaring at Albatross’s body as though Albatross might come back to life and suddenly devour one of them. 

“They can be killed,” Whyren said, haltingly. 

“But how,” Scorpion pressed.

“I think you owe us an answer,” Kesed said, when he saw that Whyren had clammed up. “Our lives are on the line here, and this means so is yours. Corporate secrecy is one thing, but if we can’t figure out how to kill a SynthKandra, then we’re in trouble when we run into the one that did for Falcon. Or any of its friends.”

Whyren ground his teeth together.

“Grenade, maybe,” Vulture mused aloud. “Imagine it’d struggle to reconstitute if you blew it up. Or maybe a huge fire.”

“Most of the Hemalurgic implants are delicate,” Whyren finally said, “And the SynthKandra’s systems depend on the Hemalurgic implants functioning as they should. A repeated shock delivered by the shock knife should immobilise the kandra enough for capture or a lethal blow. It should be possible to adjust the shock to letha; levels as well.” He steepled his fingers. “Alternatively—as you suggested, fire. A disabling shot to enough of its Hermalurgic implants. Destroying the identity chip should render the kandra inert.”

More quietly, Whyren grabbed at Kesed’s bicep, tugged him closer, and hissed into his ear, “I should not be telling you this. Do you understand what you’re asking for? Do you know what Heron Industries will likely do to us, or to them?”

“We have to survive right now,” Kesed said, evenly. “Everything else can wait.”

Something about those words struck Whyren hard. He let go of Kesed, and stepped back, shock written into his features.

“Where is the chip?” Atari asked.

“Less helpful than you might imagine,” Kesed said, when it became clear Whyren was not going to answer that. “The SynthKandra are building bodies for themselves. Shifting the location of the implants or reinforcing them is easy enough.”

“So we cremate him, then,” Vulture said, with cold practicality. “Unless your medic feels up to rooting around for the chips.”

“Takes a cold fish to keep playing dead while someone searches for the implants,” Atari stated. “Especially with the rest of us here.”

Snips performed the autopsy with swift efficiency, as Atari and Vulture stood ready in case Albatross was really a SynthKandra biding its time to strike. Kesed watched as Snips clinically went over the cadaver, and Albatross remained dead.

“No implants,” Snips said, at last. “I’d ask some hard questions of Scorpion and Cody Eight, if I were you. An ostensibly experienced mistrunner getting jumpy and shooting another mistrunner to death. Doesn’t that sound odd to you?”

Kesed said, softly, “That’s what I was afraid of.”

 

 

Magenta Albatross was executed! They were a Mistrunner Infiltrator!

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Magenta Albatross (11): Chartreuse Penguin, Salmon Meerkat, Mauve Crocodile, Coral Swan, Indigo Weasel, Azure Mouse, Charcoal Hyena, Oxblood Beagle, Fuchsia Ostrich, Ivory Dragonfly, Amber Vulture
Fuchsia Ostrich (1): Magenta Albatross
Melon Dingo (1): Amethyst Scorpion

The Night has begun! It will end on 1st May at 0100hrs SGT (GMT+8)! PMs remain open!

As always, please wait for me to reserve the second post before posting. Thank you.

Edited April 29, 2022 by <kel>

[Kasimir]

Rule Clarifications:

Spoiler

• Perfect Mimicry occurs on the same level of the OoA as the NK and the Sharpshooter kill. If a kandra using Perfect Mimicry is shot, then I will flip a coin for whether their action succeeds or not.

Player List:

Spoiler

1. @Chartreuse Penguin - Jack Ladrian
2. Magenta Albatross - Mistrunner Infiltrator
3. @Salmon Meerkat - Vel
4. @Mauve Crocodile
5. @Coral Swan - Atari
6. @Melon Dingo - AuRel
7. @Indigo Weasel
8. @Azure Mouse - Hauer
9. Emerald Falcon - SynthKandra Field Operative
10. @Charcoal Hyena
11. @Oxblood Beagle
12. @Amethyst Scorpion
13. @Fuchsia Ostrich - Cody Eight
14. @Ivory Dragonfly
15. @Amber Vulture

Edited April 30, 2022 by <kel>

[Chartreuse Penguin]

Terminally wrong indeed... @Magenta Albatross, I liked having you around, sorry about that. You took it very well.

@Fuchsia Ostrich, what was that? Who was your contact?

8 minutes ago, said:

[write-up pending; I have updated N1 and am updating D2; will then come and update N2 but you don't care for write-ups do ya]

Course I do <3

Edited April 29, 2022 by Chartreuse Penguin

[Coral Swan]

Pretty sure this is what I said it was . Either Ostrich or the contact, if there even is one, is an elim KandraThug.

[Amber Vulture]

Gah. Okay, okay. 

If Ostrich is an elim, they will likely accuse a random villager of having 'scanned' Albatross. 

Sharpshooter, probably don't kill Ostrich. Your call, but you may want to go after someone else you suspect as they are ideally using their protection on Ostrich (if they're elim). 

Anyone who's been in contact with Ostrich via PMs, please share with the thread everything you've talked about. In our PM they claimed to have been talking to the 'scanner' for a while and that the Alb scan didn't come out of the blue.

I'm surprised Albatross didn't put up much of a fight, but I suppose we can't blame them for not being able to turn the tide when there were 11 votes against them.

I would also like to formally add Dingo to my village reads. 

 

[Chartreuse Penguin]

15 minutes ago, Coral Swan said:

Pretty sure this is what I said it was . Either Ostrich or the contact, if there even is one, is an elim KandraThug.

I don't even think they have to be a Thug, it could go like this: OG Falcon hops into some poor soul, then PMs Ostrich yesterday (or just is Ostrich to begin with) and claims the scan. We learn it's fake now, and can pinpoint the false source but whoever it is can just get away tonight by hopping again.

We should have been more careful. It's a simple, genius, and painfully obvious ploy. And we bought it instantly.

Coinshot, if you exist, hit Ostrich's source once we learn who it is. I think Perfect Mimicry is last, right? You should be able to kill them tonight. If Ostrich doesn't have a source, target Ostrich.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Chartreuse Penguin

[Amber Vulture]

The vote situation when Ostrich decided to reveal the 'scan' should probably be looked at.

VC pre-reveal:
Scorp (2): Swan, Ostrich
Vulture (1): Hyena
Penguin (1): Vulture
Dingo (1): Scorp
 

I suspect at least one elim among the people with votes. If all four players there are villagers, why would the elims feel the need to pull this ploy now? It's evidently a very strong weapon, and I can't help but feel they've wasted it if all four players there are villagers. And it would have been far more believable had they waited another cycle because then they could have falsely claimed to have scanned the intermediary as village. This would have increased the credibility of the claim. I think the elims had reason to believe the D2 exe would form on one of their own, which is why they chose to use this tactic now. Obviously, I would say that out of those four I suspect Penguin to be the elim.

4 minutes ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

We learn it's fake now, and can pinpoint the false source but whoever it is can just get away tonight by hopping again

This would be dumb to pull off without some form of protection from sharpshooters.

[Kasimir]

6 minutes ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

Coinshot, if you exist, hit Ostrich's source once we learn who it is. I think Perfect Mimicry is last, right? You should be able to kill them tonight. If Ostrich doesn't have a source, target Ostrich.

Perfect Mimicry occurs simultaneously on the OoA with the NK and Sharpshooter kill. I'm not a fan of mid-game rule changes unless strictly-speaking necessary so while I would flag Perfect Mimicry as something I'd potentially like to shove later on OoA in future runs of the game (not that I would run this again, and this is not a gamestate comment, just a 'for Kas bro to take note' comment), I would rule that I'd have to flip a coin as to whether the Kandra gets killed or successfully bodyhops.

[Chartreuse Penguin]

1 minute ago, Amber Vulture said:

I suspect at least one elim among the people with votes. If all four players there are villagers, why would the elims feel the need to pull this ploy now? It's evidently a very strong weapon, and I can't help but feel they've wasted it if all four players there are villagers.  ...   I think the elims had reason to believe the D2 exe would form on one of their own, which is why they chose to use this tactic now. Obviously, I would say that out of those four I suspect Penguin to be the elim.

I agree on principle, but that forces me to assume Dingo is elim which I'm not really feeling (unless they're OG Falcon- I got similar tone/identity vibes from them as OG Falcon, I kinda want to call that now but we'll see :P) or that my village reads of you and Scorp are wrong, which I don't want to do with the current gamestate.

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And it would have been far more believable had they waited another cycle because then they could have falsely claimed to have scanned the intermediary as village. This would have increased the credibility of the claim.

Look at the VC, the elims didn't need to increase the credibility of the claim.

[Amber Vulture]

2 minutes ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

I agree on principle, but that forces me to assume Dingo is elim which I'm not really feeling (unless they're OG Falcon- I got similar tone/identity vibes from them as OG Falcon, I kinda want to call that now but we'll see :P) or that my village reads of you and Scorp are wrong, which I don't want to do with the current gamestate.

Dingo sounds pretty Dingo to me in our PM (which they created at the start of last turn)

2 minutes ago, Chartreuse Penguin said:

Look at the VC, the elims didn't need to increase the credibility of the claim.

Could they have predicted that everyone would buy it this easily though? Surely they would have considered other, more skeptical reactions.

[Chartreuse Penguin]

7 minutes ago, Amber Vulture said:

Dingo sounds pretty Dingo to me in our PM (which they created at the start of last turn)

Could they have predicted that everyone would buy it this easily though? Surely they would have considered other, more skeptical reactions.

I can believe that. My own read was like one thing one time, so not very concrete :P. It's why I didn't ever mention it.

I dunno, honestly. The kandra mechanics have never been used before, and historically alignment scan results have immediately been accepted. It makes sense to me that they would just go for it, there's not really a loss to doing so unless we can kill the contact tonight. You're right about the protection though, but I don't think that's an excuse not to try.

Edited April 29, 2022 by Chartreuse Penguin
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