EmulatonStromenkiin he/him Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, AquaRegia said: Am I mistaken that both Elsecallers and Willshapers have the Surge of Transportation? That's two orders of Radiants who can a] move to and from the CR anywhere and b] take armies and equipment along - it's just a matter of scaling, the ability already exists. And if one magic system grants this ability, it seems likely others will also. requires massive amounts of stormlight and skill to go from cognitive to physical, just look at Jasnah, she had to find a spot that was near-perpendicularity like. 1
Frustration Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, AquaRegia said: Am I mistaken that both Elsecallers and Willshapers have the Surge of Transportation? That's two orders of Radiants who can a] move to and from the CR anywhere and b] take armies and equipment along - it's just a matter of scaling, the ability already exists. And if one magic system grants this ability, it seems likely others will also. That's only for Roshar though, and Lightweavers could do it to. 3 hours ago, EmulatonStromenkiin said: requires massive amounts of stormlight and skill to go from cognitive to physical, just look at Jasnah, she had to find a spot that was near-perpendicularity like. Jasnah is just really bad at it. Spoiler Questioner Can you tell me anything about the Elsecallers we don't know yet? Brandon Sanderson They should be able to get back out of Shadesmar without having to find a perpendicularity, but Jasnah doesn't know how to do it yet. She should be able to do that, she just hasn't figured it out. Prague Signing (Oct. 26, 2019)
+Bzhydack he/him Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, AquaRegia said: Am I mistaken that both Elsecallers and Willshapers have the Surge of Transportation? That's two orders of Radiants who can a] move to and from the CR anywhere and b] take armies and equipment along - it's just a matter of scaling, the ability already exists. And if one magic system grants this ability, it seems likely others will also. Yeah, thats true. Doesnt mentioned this, because im not sure how good ate they with Transporting more than themselves (person + equipment, so Cognitive Self) but this can be just matter of skill. Also, Lighteavers can also go into Cognitive, but not sure if they can go back if they commit fully. But all of this is Rosharan Magic. This is HUGE advantage for Roshar and other planets except Sel cant even hope to replicate. Scadrial maybe can experiment with F-Nicrosil and F-Duralumin, but this in nowhere near as practical and potent as Rosharan Magic. Dont have even idea how Nalthis would achive this. So due to simple availability of acess to Cognitive, Roshar and Sel would try to dominate this Realm (Sel already is doing this) and could effectivly cut off other planets, and isolate them from Cosmere. So other planets (Especially Scadrial) will have to bypass this, and Physical Realm FTL is obvious solution.
+Oltux72 he/him Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 4 hours ago, AquaRegia said: Am I mistaken that both Elsecallers and Willshapers have the Surge of Transportation? That's two orders of Radiants who can a] move to and from the CR anywhere and b] take armies and equipment along - it's just a matter of scaling, the ability already exists. And if one magic system grants this ability, it seems likely others will also. They could if they knew how to get their spren out of the Rosharan system they knew how to get their fuel out of the Rosharan system Yet even then their number is limited (squires are no use) by the number of spren and training time. And we have no idea how much they can transport. And it is possible to find and stop transports in the CR. 1
AquaRegia he/him Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 11 hours ago, Oltux72 said: They could if they knew how to get their spren out of the Rosharan system they knew how to get their fuel out of the Rosharan system Yet even then their number is limited (squires are no use) by the number of spren and training time. And we have no idea how much they can transport. And it is possible to find and stop transports in the CR. 1) If I recall correctly, there is a WoB to the effect of "it's difficult to move Spren off Roshar, nobody has figured out how to do it yet," which implies it IS possible, and characters may very well be working on it. 2) Obviously several characters already think exporting Stormlight from Roshar is possible, and have been actively working on it. I agree with your list of limitations and difficulties. I also note we Earth humans went from no airplanes to walking on the moon in less than 70 years, despite considerable limitations and difficulties (and no magic). Also, a WoB in which Brandon, discussing Kelsier walking through the Cognitive Realm to the Ire fortress, seems to agree with my view of travel in the CR as FTL: Quote Brandon Sanderson Yeah, yep. That's what I'd say if I had to actually point him in that <a map>. It gets really fuzzy though, because it wouldn't be too much longer before he enters another solar system. Like, he would pass lightyears in steps as he starts getting further, if that makes any sense.
SwordNimiForPresident the sword/that sword Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 11:13 AM, KaladinWorldsinger said: I think the moons are impossibly far away for that to work. Also we know, using stormlight is invigorating until you stop and you feel drained and exhausted. I imagine even if it's possible to reach the moon and back, the radiant will straight up die when he turns off stormlight. To put perspective on how far the moon is, you can fit the other eight planets between the earth and the moon. It's pretty far How did I miss this.. 1
KaladinWorldsinger Posted March 20, 2022 Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, SwordNimiForPresident said: How did I miss this.. I know right???
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