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Simple explanation of how Shards get tied to loaction


Eternal Khol

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I just thought of a easy explanation of why Shards get tied to loactions. Let me know what you guys think!

 

Premise: Investiture is "self"
 
Shards are everything in the Cosmere. All energy, matter, etc... is them.  Any direct creation or investment done by them is just effectively making them a body.
 
And just like a human mind/soul is tied to its physical body. A Shards self is tied to its "body"(whatever they've created/invested) in the physical
 
That means,as an example, that Scadrial was/is the literal body of Ruin and Preservation.
 
And whenever they were in the Physical/cogntive realm doing work(as Shards reside mostly in the Spiritual) they were tied to their body just like a human is.
 
To leave they would have to destroy their body(which was exactly RuinAti's plan before he died)
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I agree you seem to be on to something, I have spent MONTHS thinking about the nature of investiture and I think you have a good lead here. I think after seeing scadrial the other shards may have not wanted to make their own planets and just settled for ones that had already existed. besides I think Honor was fascinated by the spren and came to experiment.

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On 1/28/2022 at 3:22 AM, Eternal Khol said:

I just thought of a easy explanation of why Shards get tied to loactions. Let me know what you guys think!

 

Premise: Investiture is "self"
 
Shards are everything in the Cosmere. All energy, matter, etc... is them.  Any direct creation or investment done by them is just effectively making them a body.
 
And just like a human mind/soul is tied to its physical body. A Shards self is tied to its "body"(whatever they've created/invested) in the physical
 
That means,as an example, that Scadrial was/is the literal body of Ruin and Preservation.
 
And whenever they were in the Physical/cogntive realm doing work(as Shards reside mostly in the Spiritual) they were tied to their body just like a human is.
 
To leave they would have to destroy their body(which was exactly RuinAti's plan before he died)

I think that's a pretty good theory! 

I do wonder though, we've seen Shards move planets before, so why can't they just move their whole planet, or event their whole system if they need to go visit another one? Seems like it wouldn't be too difficult for them, and yet it's a big deal for them in that they can't go visit other systems.

I can't fathom why. :huh:

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1 minute ago, Trusk'our said:

I do wonder though, we've seen Shards move planets before, so why can't they just move their whole planet, or event their whole system if they need to go visit another one? Seems like it wouldn't be too difficult for them, and yet it's a big deal for them in that they can't go visit other systems.

Probably because Brandon's never thought of it. Though I would say it's because the investiture of the inhabitants would resist being moved by the shard (and so you couldn't effect them directly), which when combined with the fact that the speeds you'd need to reach to get anywhere in a reasonable time (ie. not having the planet freeze over and everything die because no sunlight for a year) would either tear everyone apart, or fling them into space.

Does give me the idea of a Shard inhabiting a comet/asteroid, Investing in the rock in order to allow life to sustain itself, floating out in space.

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On 1/29/2022 at 4:11 PM, Trusk'our said:

I do wonder though, we've seen Shards move planets before, so why can't they just move their whole planet, or event their whole system if they need to go visit another one? Seems like it wouldn't be too difficult for them, and yet it's a big deal for them in that they can't go visit other systems.

For Odium, it would probably be a very bad idea because he'd expend way too much power doing something so dramatic and be very easy to defeat. For other Shards, they probably don't want to kill all the inhabitants of their planets nor the ones in the target system, nor completely destroy any solar system they pass through by dragging a planet or star right through them.

Edit: also, because you would need to go very fast to arrive anywhere else in a reasonable amount of time, space is very big.

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On 1/29/2022 at 5:11 PM, Trusk'our said:

I think that's a pretty good theory! 

I do wonder though, we've seen Shards move planets before, so why can't they just move their whole planet, or event their whole system if they need to go visit another one? Seems like it wouldn't be too difficult for them, and yet it's a big deal for them in that they can't go visit other systems.

I can't fathom why. :huh:

probably due to the sheer expenditure of power required, and the danger to the planets themselves.

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