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You'd have to bring enough Cadmium...assuming you're a Pulser/Mistborn, that is.

And secretly, that's what the document underneath it is! (I kid, but still...) Only more proof that the Sanderbots are working really well now and evolving into an army of super-writing things...

Okay, quick thing here. Since spren are based off the ideal/form in the spiritual realm (like fire spren), one can suppose that while other worlds don't have cultivated, living ideas; they still have ideals represented in the other realms, or so I would think... On Scadrial they have this religion where they believe that the Survivor isn't dead (even immortal...) and because of this, an ideal form of this idea would supposedly exist in the spiritual realm... In this case, though, because Kel stuck around (originally of his own free will, perhaps), and after hijacking Preservation he may have had some idea of what might happen or he may have decided to stick around to fulfill the role that the Church of the Survivor had made for him (or been 'forced' to do it). It might even be a combination... Though, really, this is just pure speculation at this point. And it jumps around a lot too, sorry.

hmm, Peter the Troll strikes again. >.> That secret was edited the same day as his Alcatraz 5 folder (8/12/14) and around the same time (1:13 for Alcatraz 5, 1:14 for the 'secret'); my theory is it's Alcatraz 6, though, I can't remember when that's supposed to be released... Either that, or Elantris 2. Pretty much canon by this point...he's just a cognitive shadow who has a little too much sway over events... Part of me hopes though that this is really a sign of either a Marsh, Kel, or Sazed POV - probably Marsh - since, the view point character may have a more...personal connection to Luthadel (or it's history)... Mind you, this argument is about as solid as water vapor, but I wouldn't mind seeing Marsh's view point again...

It could be a sDNA issue... Vasher's sDNA makes it more difficult to adsorb Stormlight, so when the body (or Cognitive/Spiritual aspect?) does so, it uses up Investiture in the process than eats the remaining Investiture. Since Stormlight likes to escape at the same time he does this process (which takes an unspecified amount of time), he loses it in that way too, and supposing he does this in private once a week and if the process is both time consuming and inconvenient, the total cost of transmutating Stormlight into edible Investiture might be just too high to make it convenient...if you follow my drift. If that made sense at all, that is...(and I realized this doesn't really address Awakening with Stormlight, in some ways, that might be easier...maybe).

This sounds familiar, nah, weird that I kind of was just thinking about this, though. Since it's a bit late for me as well, I'm going to just ask a question (I've read your whole theory), do the unconventional commands fit into the Intent of the Shard? Since the Intent is to Endow with deity (or more broadly, just to Endow with a 'gift'), then these commands don't look as unconventional. Just thought I would point it out, though, I'll respond more to your post later...

This is like "Junction, Junction, what's your function? - The reprise". I had to make the joke. Sorry, guys... Oh no, you went into some crazy calculus explanation, this is actually a bit more simple than last time. It's interesting that I would say it's more like the other way around but that's because I imagine the Shardworlds as Platonic Magic (and that's how I understand Plato's ideas of physical, cognitive, and spiritual). Though, I doubt they can...errr...hop quite that directly. ;P Anyways, a Perpendicularity is a permanent Junction (which is even more of a simplification), or a Shardpool, probably because of all that Investiture in said pool creating a link, "weak spot", or certain degree of closeness between the realms... Maybe. I'm a bit curious as to why permanent junctions exist at particular spots, yes, I know that a Shardpool is a manifestation of a Shard's power in the Physical Realm (the reflection of that power in the Cognitive Realm/Spiritual Realm might creates a close connection because you have the idea in the first and the ideal of that power in the second), but why is it that particular spot in the Physical Realm? Why not some place else? What's so special about that location that it manifests there?

This is probably a good question just to ask at some point, perhaps a red-green colorblind Awakener would only be able to more easily notice a difference in shade and contrast or something like that than color rather than being completely healed... I think that they would have to 1) have a lot of Breath (possibly); 2) have a person who knows the right command heal them (if healing Commands of this sort exist, but those would change a part of a person's identity); or 3) be healed by a Divine Breath. I'm a little hesitant to say that having enough Breath would (completely) "cure" this ailment, since colorblindness would be a part of that person's identity, and even though Breath does act independently of the Cognitive Aspect, I want to say that it's effects would still be limited due to this problem...maybe.

@Kobold: I've decided that when I get my own dog, I will name him TenSoon. And talk to him like a person. You're not the only one crazy enough to name their pets after Cosmere characters. Oh, a cat would be Vin...heh.

Oh, I'll just throw my lot in with Kuristan...though my disappointment isn't related, it still fulfills the contract, I believe. ...we'll waiting for that hat eating video, Wiery, you could, of course, buy a chocolate hat or something more edible...(if a more edible hat exists).

So, the Brandon-bots are real...this definitely proves it!

Obviously, all Jedi/Seth are Awakeners, Windrunners, or Allomancers. It's so obvious I'm utterly shocked I didn't realize it before.

Cosmere Gossip, scandals, and the Latest from the Shardworlds. Your place for every piece of juicy gossip and breaking news! From Hoid to the latest in the real breaking news from around the Cosmere. Topics in this issue include: Where's Marsh? Breaking the Silence: Knight Radiant admits his true love is Spren, not wife And how to attract Kelsier's Shadow to you! "He Spiked Me!" - Tales of Famous People Reportedly Losing Their Powers Queen Sarene, Baby Bump 10 Best Spots to Vocation in the Cosmere Breaking News: Famous Scientist Explores Hemalurgy Aluminium Cloaks; Protect yourself from Unwanted Investiture - Real or Fake? Exclusive Interview: Star Playing Kalad Swears he Saw Vasher at the Coffee Shop AD: "Worldhopping 101: Learn Everything you want to know about Worldhopping from the best teachers in the Cosmere! Limited Time Offer, and strictly not limited to those with Innate Investiture!" Other ideas for articles? List them here! The more, the juicer! (And thank you Blaze1616 for helping me come up with this not so fabulous idea!)

Of course, and I can't forget Hoid Spottings ("Where's Hoid-o"), Best Locations to Vocation in the Cosmere, The Kandra is a Magical Fish, and "He Spiked Me! - Tales of Famous People Reportedly Losing Their Powers". I think it's time for a new topic...xD

And nothing at all to do with a limited supply of Investiture or new laws regulating the selling and purchasing of Breath. Someone found some ancient documents about his life (way back in the day) and made a movie about him that won the equivalent of 11 Oscars and 4 Golden Globes. It was so successful it made him skedaddle for the price of one Nightblood and 200 Breath (the first delivered to a certain Herald, the later to Hoid). Indeed, the truth revealed at last! ​Brought to you by the Cosmere Enquirer: Get your Cosmere Gossip Here. In our next issue, "Where is Marsh? And how to attract Kelsier's Shadow to you!"

Hmmm, at least the answer wasn't 'no'. I guess the best way to figure this out would be to come up with a convoluted question that will trick him into a little more...something in this regard. Perhaps ask if she has had any important dialogue in a Mistborn book or if she has actually appeared in that series as of yet... So...this means for all we know, she could be Kaladin's horse. "She ate my horse." The kandra-as-animal-gag continues! She could even be a chull...or better yet, an axehound! If Adolin gives Shallan a axehound pup (or if any character receives one), my bet is that it won't be a real one. The tradition continues...

Exactly. It will be like Hollywood (well, Central and South American style probably, though I might be the only one who pictures it this way, with a touch of Ancient Greece on the side) and probably LA. Vasher will hate it...if he's still around. *snickers*

If they brought Spikes to Nalthis and Spiked you in the right place, this could kind of occur... Though, not quite the same, as you're either dead or will have permanent spiritual damage, mixing magics could have freaky results... Basically, the villain is a serial killer who uses Hemalurgy to steal Breath, it could even be based on a "true story", if you want to go that far...

A topic that's a little off the wall. I'm so not sorry, I Awakened an idea and couldn't let it go. So, given that Nalthis is the perfect place for horror movies (in fact, when they start exporting to other worlds, they could make a fortune off horror films, brightly colored things, tourism, and creepy tea). In some ways, special effects could be cheaper (for a bit, until Awakener demand outraces the supply...) and they could invent the Zombie Lifeless Genre, other than the obvious awesomeness there, what other horror effects (and effects in general) could Awakening produce? How do you guys think the future of cinema might look compared to our world (or other worlds in the Cosmere)? Since, you know, I want to invest in it in a thousand years of Cosmeric time!

Alright, time to creep out of the grave like a Lifeless army in a horror film...The future of Nalthian Cinema, you know they would be able to make some excellent movies in the distant future just with the freaky things Awakeners and Lifeless can do...;D What I want to address though, is the "draining" of color (and sounding like Captain Obvious to boot). It always seemed odd to me, anyways, that when the color of an object is "drained" this draining is graying. This is only from a cosmetic prospective. In color theory, a white object (or a duller, gray object) is, in fact, reflecting more colors than before (instead of reflecting bright red, it reflects all the colors of the spectrum). Black is the absence of color (that is, no colors are being reflected back, instead a truly black object absorbs all colors), if color was really being "drained" so to speak, the effects of Awakening would look quite different. After Susebron regains his tongue and performs Awakening at the end of the book, when the color is "drained" from those objects, they turn white due. If he were "draining" color when he Awakened everything in the palace, this shouldn't have been the result, but it was because Awakening causes a physical (and probably) chemical change in the physical realm to fuel it's power (to change the colors an object physical reflects is not the same as painting over it or even dying it, though, it is like bleaching it, but still somewhat different). It could be the energy produced by this change that provides the power for Awakening (or moving Breath from one object to another). Thus, color isn't fueling it directly, the physical change (and probably the cognitive change) fuels it. Personally, I love this system because it's related to how colors work, but that probably puts me in the minority of readers. It just isn't as cool as burning metal. Invested metal, but there's still a reaction taking place in the Allomancer's stomach (one that we don't completely understand... Do they have special enzymes or invested-cellular structures that burn this metal? What exactly is going on there?), and while its end-positive nature, this chemical/investiture reaction has to take place. It's not exactly the same in nature because they have to continuously burn said metal, but it's somewhat similar...(and now I want to take a part an Allomancer stomach to better understand how burning metals works...it's for SCIENCE!) This kind of change might not be needed for all Investiture (as no more examples come to mind, or if they exist, it's like spiking someone in the back and stealing her power...only a good idea if you belong in the back alley and/or want to figure out the economics of Hemalurgy)... To kind of address everything else: I find Kuristan's dividend/investment model really interesting, though, I personally see it as closer to a slow or minute decay of Investiture over time. I think it's a possibility that Returned are...kind of like corpses Awakened by Endowment with Cognitive Shadows tacked on (so I agree with Moogle, I think it was Moogle anyways). If the 'unsticking' or decay is relatively low (so minute it's not even noticeable until day-seven except if you have Susubron-level power...) and since we never get to see a Returned getting refused in-book from a non-Returned's perspective, we can't say what their aura look like to someone else. Lightsong (the one example we get) probably wouldn't have been aware of this subtle change, and if it's subtle enough throughout the week that only the most powerful Awakener could notice it, than the regular person wouldn't and couldn't tell anyways. Considering that it's only one Breath that's require to get a Divine Breath re-stuck, the decay should be difficult to notice in the first place since one Breath really isn't much and that's all a Returned needs to "eat" to recover their strength... However, I think it's possible that whatever is happening, it might be that Breath becomes part of the Divine Breath (instead of being an individual unit) when the Return "devours" it. Thus, the Divine Breath gets slightly larger and that single Breath doesn't just disappear (but a Breath is so minuscule that an increase in size of the Divine Breath wouldn't be noticeable except if you have thousands of Breaths). By the end of the week, it's gone (or rather, the Divine Breath gets smaller again and can't quite hold on to its human form/corpse or stick as well), and the Returned needs to eat again to refuse again. Though, I don't think this addresses the energy issue...

Or we LIE about it even if it's just as good as expected. Let the hat eating commence.

If it's not against copywrite law or some shenanigans like that, why not request help? Perhaps someone here has some transcription experience, if they do, perhaps they can help you...It just seems, to me anyways, that this is a lot of transcription for one person to handle...just a suggestion, though, thanks for keeping us up to date.

So...I was thinking...does the name of the Returned effect the Intent of the Divine Breath, or is it, perhaps, the other way around? What comes first: the chicken or the egg? the Return's name or the Intent? The above are really just rhetoric questions. Splinters can have their own Intent independent of the Shard, but in the case of a Return, this Intent is governed by a human rather than being the result of chosen Intent (Nightblood) or a more "random" Intent like spren (or Intent based on truths/ideals...some of these being harder to grasp than others and thus resulting in bigger splinters, like Honor, cryptics, godspren, or Destroy Evil). But, one of the things I've wondered about for awhile is, when a Returned is given a name, is it due to who they already are/were, or who they will become (based on the needs of the people or the possible future Endowment showed them)? How much do the names actually matter? If the names are influence the Intent, is it because the Returned decided to follow what their name met (aka Warbreaker and Blushweaver) or because they were given it by others? When we consider Blushweaver or Vasher, two Returned who have changed their names or, in Vasher's case, had different names given to him at different times, one might conclude that whatever influence their names have is somewhat flexible. Blushweaver seems to be a goddess of beauty (and sexuality), but she is at times honest as well, reflecting in the long run, her original name as nature. While Vasher has been known as Strifelover, Kalad the Usurper and finally, Peacegiver; in the long run (or by the time of novels and by the end of the Manywar) he fits the ideal hinted at in his given name... It seems little uncanny (and is mentioned by Vasher at the end of Warbreaker) but perhaps reflects the nature of larger Splinters. The ideals/truths that they represent are bigger, and thus, can't be pinned down as easily. On Roshar, a conscious spren forms due to the large amount of Investiture with its large Intent trying to "fit in" and intepret that truth/ideal; like Nightblood, but not forced. When a person Returns, however, the name is an unspecific descriptor that foreshadows the base Intent/reason that person Returned. A Returned's name operates in a similar fashion to the name of a spren or, probably more correctly, Nightblood's command...at least in the long run. However, it shows that a "person" bonded to a Splinter (of this size) has more flexibility, but perhaps not as much as a regular person. My final questions for you guys: 1. Do you think that the Splinter and the name that the Cult of the Returned give the them have some restraining effects on the individual's will due to the level of Investiture (because that Investiture is trying to act according to its "named" Intent)? 2. Does this result in a type of "civil war" between the named Intent and the human conscious bonded to the Splinter? 3. Are names of Returned a Command given by Endowment (in a matter of speaking) that the Returned try to 'live up to'? (etc. I'm going to sleep now)...

Weiry beat me too it, darn...and just when I found the WoB, too. xD This has kind of been my head cannon for awhile, though, my understanding of tidal forces is limited for the most part beyond the realization that three moons would create some crazy storms (the sun's tidal force would be more limited in this regard, though). So, this is a very good point, Maximus! As you've mentioned, OP, I agree that it does seem like Something decided to perhaps make Roshar this way. However, it seems it might be Adonalsium who made it that way or at least influenced it to form that way in some fashion. Perhaps that explains the shape of the continent too. Hints of Adonalsium in the underlying math and physics, how fun!

I think that Peter should just change his icon to a troll face...It'd be fitting. >.>