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I still think this is too superficial. Bondsmiths also use Adhesion and with Dalinar we see it as working with Connection (using foreign languages via Connecting to people, summoning Honor's perpendicularity via Connecting the Realms). The physical aspect of the surge might well be working with pressure und vacuum, but there is more to it. Since the surges work differently for each order, the old list of surges will have to be updated as new features appear in future books, when we see more of known Surges from Orders that have not been an item so far. Kaladin's leadership abilities also could be buffed by Connection with the group of people he leads. We see him connect very quickly with the running parshmen and also the Wall Guards in Kholinar. The last one Kaladin felt was "cheap" compared to the hard work he had to do making Bridge Four follow him. Of course, he could just be more practiced now in making people follow him.

Played a bit with the art and inserted translations in images now (with standard orthography).

Mark how sapphire fits with the order of windrunners.

@Amanuensis posted here: These passages at least hint that Timbre is Ico's daughter (a Reacher).

Another curious thing about Glys is that he resides in Renarin's heart: It reminded me of the gemhearts of the parsh, where spren are trapped to apply their forms. Glys is not trapped in Renarin, he can come out at will. His chosen home, though, is Renarin's heart. The other Radiantspren we have seen are all external. Except: Venli's spren in the end sits in her gemheart and has the voidspren captured.

In a reading of an earlier version of the prologue, Gavilar said to Eshonai something like "take this, I have another one". This has been removed in the final version. I still tend to think of both spheres (Szeth's and Eshonai's) as two different ones. And the spheres seem to be perfect gems (the perfect cut being made of (nearly) infinite facets, making the gem a perfect sphere), filled with a trapped Unmade, voidspren and voidlight.

Glys as Shardblade is strange though. The Blade shows folds like it would have when forged. This could indicate a mixture of Investitures, manifesting in different layers. Sja-anat speaks of her son. I also think she references to Glys there. Sja-anat's children are twisted spren, but only lesser spren. Glys could also be a child of Sja-anat following the normal reproduction cycle of spren (which we don't know anything about). More plausible (Renarin uses Radiant surges normally) for me is that Glys was a legit Truthwatcherspren agreeing to a corruption(to be read in the sense of mixing of different kinds of Investiture) by Sja-anat. This mixing should give Renarin certain Voidbinding powers, too. The Fused seem to be like Heralds. Bodys fused with an old cognitive shadow (more or less sentient) that has been empowered by Odium. This seems to grant Voidbinding powers without a Nahel bond.

Another hypothesis: Odium seems to be the opposite of passion. He takes the passions of humans and singers and feeds on them. To get more passion, his Unmade instigate passion in humans (Nergaoul a lust for battle, Ashertmarn a lust for debauchery, etc.). Odium himself is the Void, he sucks in the passions as his voidlight seems to suck in normal light.

Normally, the Intent of a Shard is fixed. The problem I see with Honor is that he has been splintered for about two millennia and his spren have gained self-awareness. While Honor was alive, all his Splinters (Spren) were still Honor. After his death, those splinters became independent. The Stormfather is a merging of the old Stormspren with the largest chunk of Honor's Investiture. Some spren on Roshar are a mixture of Honor and Cultivation. It all is quite blurred. Every new Vessel can filter the Intent of a Shard differently from others. So Dalinar could have ascended to Honor, interpreting it quite differently from Tanavast and call himself Unity, while being Honor in truth. Upon rereading the passage, I came to doubt that Dalinar ascended in the HoA sense at all. Dalinar says a lot of words which each could be interpreted as another Bondsmith oath: - I will take responsibility for what I have done. - If I must fall, I will rise each time a better man. - You cannot have my pain! - I am Unity. The surprised Stormfather answers with "These words ... are accepted. How? What have you done?" Dalinar has sworn his third oath as Bondsmith, perhaps he stumbled over more than one oath. It might be that what we see him doing is just what a Bondsmith having bonded a splinter of Honor (together with the Stormfather) is able to do, in combination with the (now almost usual) burst of power after swearing a new oath: Connect the realms for a certain time and therefore summoning Honor's Perpendicularity. Afterwards, Dalinar is "normal" again, as far as "normal" can be used with Dalinar. When Vin or Sazed ascended, even Rashek, the effects were much larger. What Odium sees as Honor then would be the splinter of Honor in the Stormfather, manifested temporarily in Dalinar while he surgebinds. And with this power of surgebinding one comes to understand how it could be possible that the old surgebinders accidentally destroyed their world (with dawnshards being the weapons used).

In answer to this, I go with @Leyrann: Edit: I have to stop following the conversation now. First I burnt oil in a pan, now rice water boiled over. Have to clean up now. Distractions...

Dalinar did not really take up Honor. Honor is vastly splintered, think of all the Honorspren that are separate. So Dalinar at best just got parts of him. Additionally Dalinar has the touch of Cultivation on him, so a merging of Investitures and the changing of Intent should be possible.

Hoid has always been nice to Shallan. It was a scene I hoped for and when it came it hit me really hard. As I've said elsewhere, "The Girl Who Stood Up" is my absolute favourite chapter. If Dalinar indeed ascended, he is Unity now. Odium seems to recognize him as Honor "We have killed you", but I think Dalinars Intent differs from Honor.

Well, you want spoilers. Nalan is the Herald of the Skybreakers, additionally he has bonded a Highspren and sworn the Fifth Ideal. He believes he is the only Herald who has bonded a spren corresponding to "his" order of Knights Radiant. Jezrien's blade went from Szeth to Kaladin to Dalinar to "hidden in toilet" to Bridge Four (rotating members), stolen by Taravangian (Malata or another of his cronies with a shardblade, RIP Eth), delivered to Odium, and finally ended with Moash (who earlier killed Jezrien for good with a strange Odiumblade, sucking something of the Herald into a gemstone. Reminded me somehow of a hemalurgic spike with a container for extracted Investiture). So Moash + Jezriens Honorblade + content of the gemstone = corrupted Herald?

Yes, did the first one while reading, the second afterwards, since the first interrupted me too long. Topic has moved down meanwhile, since the translations do not have anything to talk about. Perhaps the fact that Navani could have told Dalinar that he has a hidden taser.

I know very well that Cultivation and the Nightwatcher are not the same, but Dalinar still seems to equate them at this point. So Dalinar really means whether the Nightwatcher is another Bondsmithspren. The Stormfather answers in the negative - and he seems to mean Cultivation, literally. The quote @Windrunner provided indeed implies that the Nightwatcher is another Bondsmithspren. And then an inconsistency: "There is . . . a third sibling. They are not with us." And further: "No! Leave them alone. You hurt them enough." Third sibling - they: Either the second sibling (Nightwatcher) and the third sibling are meant together or the third sibling is multiple individua (hivemind?). Selected Part 3 epigraphs: Here again is the talk of "the Sibling". It seems to be connected to Urithiru, since the good-bye goes to Urithiru and the Sibling - well and the Radiants who soon are to abandon their oaths. Also, the disabling of the tower functions (second zircon) is bracketed between two comments concerning the withdrawing of the Sibling. Was the Sibling the spren that powered the Urithiru Fabrial? The spren of Urithiru? Addition: There is another inconsistency (not ruling out the Nightwatcher as Bondsmith spren but we should be wary of given inworld information): The Nightwatcher is in fact not like the Stormfather. The old Stormfather - then already a Bondsmithspren - absorbed large chunks of Honor's Investiture after the Splintering of Honor. Cultivation is still alive, so the Nightwatcher -even if she is Cultivation's spren - should not have the same level of Investiture. To compare the three Bondsmith spren, we should look at them before Honor's Splintering. The Highstorms predate the arrival of the Shards on Roshar, so the Stormfather could very well be an Adonalsiumspren (now mixed with Honor). If the Nightwatcher is pure Cultivationspren, the Sibling could be pure Honorspren.

Glys is referred to by Sja-anat as her son. It seems that Renarin accidentally bonded a corrupted spren in the first place. Honor changed before the Recreance and became much less compassionate. Looks like Tanavast finally lost his own personality and yielded to the Shards Intent. There are two more big Honorspren, the Sibling and possibly Phendorana (ali'i'kamura) (Syl's maybe-sort-of-halfway nuatoma (aunt or something like that)), who were Bondsmith-spren. They pulled back before the Recreation, so there was only one Bondsmith left.That would have been the old Stormfather (possibly Adonalsium-spren since native to Roshar?). With Honor's death, the largest part of Honor's remnants merged with the Stormfather. This happened at a time when Syl was asleep and grieving after losing her former Radiant. I think with the information from Oathbringer we can rule out the Nightwatcher and Cusicesh as Bondsmithspren. Somewhere, the Stormfather (I think) is very amused about the proposition to bond the Nightwatcher. Can't find the passage right now, though.* So the Stormfather survived the Recreance in his old form, possibly because he never became a Shardblade. Honor gave him the visions to broadcast shortly before his death or via Investiture merging directly after his Splintering. The last vision is the Recreance. If there had been newer events like the Hierocracy, Honor probably would also have included them. So I think it is safe to assume that Honor's death was before the Hierocracy and other important historic events after the Recreance (I don't have any others in mind just now, but others of you might have). As a time window of Honor's Splintering I therefore would assume the time between the Recreance and the next historically recorded major event. * Edit: Found it: Chapter 64: Binder of Gods.

I saw it kind of coming when Sja-anat refered to her son. He would have had to be one of the Radiantspren Shallan knows. Jasnah not being able to spot the correct Truthwatcher spren around Renarin hightened my suspicions and in the end I feared for Renarins life. I was positively surprised that Jasnah thought better than killing him. The most intriguing implication about that is that the visions of the future can be wrong, even if they come from Odium. On a larger scale, also Odium has the same problem. He did not see Dalinar resisting him. For Dalinar, it could be explained by Cultivations interference. Renarin also is a wildcard for Odium, Odium cannot foresee his actions into the future, as is shown with the explanding diagram. Taravangian's genius self seems insignificant compared with Odiums future sight, but: The display shows to Taravangian that Renarin Kholin is a wildcard to Odium and therefore a danger to Odiums plans. Renarin should quickly learn to defend himself. The reason for Renarin's status as wildcard is perhaps the "corrupted" nature of Glys. Glys now is a mixture of Cultivation/Odium, Honor/Odium or Honor/Cultivation/Odium. This mixing of Investitures could also be what makes his visions of the future imperfect. Glys hides inside Renarin. Makes me wonder if Renarin is forming a gemheart (perhaps as a kidney stone). Edit: The first hint that Glys is no pure Radiantspren we got when Renarin showed his Glysblade to Adolin. It consisted of layers like it had been forged. Could this be the mixture of Honor/Cultivation and Odium Investiture? @FeatherWriter: Have fun bragging about the correct theory. You have earned it! I am looking forward to hear you brag about it in upcoming Shardcasts.

Getting the head squished by a thunderclast for example would also kill a KR or a Herald with limitless Investiture. As soon as the brain is destroyed, Healing will stop. A beheading is much more vague, curiously. The head could quickly grow a new body, as long as the brain is not dead (well it is a bit absurd, i know).

This is a possibility. I suspect Taravangian dying of old age soon anyway, the way he complains about his age at the end of OB.

Thank you, Arcanum, for the WoB. Looks like Adhesion is indeed a misnomer. Nonetheless, the windshield seems to be more than a normal lashing, since Kaladin had the help of many windspren. For sticking stuff together, only Stormlight is needed (and gluespren can be seen between the objects). You could compare the windshield to Kaladins situation in Shadesmar, where windspren came into the Cognitive Realm, sensing they might be needed, although their home is in the Physical Realm. Had Kaladin sworn his fourth Oath, he probably would have gotten Shardplate. The windshield seemed to be a kind of proto-plate for me, windspren feeling an affinity to Kaladin and therefore helping him blocking the storm. Instead of coalescing around the body of the KR, they took the form of a cone instead. We have already seen Syl trying to block the wind when Kaladin was hanging in the Highstorm in WoK. One spren had little to no effect, hundreds of spren obviously were much more potent. A different point: If we believe Nalan, Jezrien himself was no windrunner (Nalan believes he is the only Herald to have become a member of his own Order of KR), so his death should have no real impact on the powers of the windrunners. Most galling is that Moash is now in possession of the windrunner Honorblade. To become a Herald, Kaladin would have to fight him for that. I agree with those of you who think the Oathpact as being obsolete. A new solution should be found in the future. To stop the Fused from returning from the dead, it might be enough to kill one or more Heralds in the conventional way (not using the Odiumblade Moash used to kill Jezrien). I see a hunt for Heralds coming, Moash wanting to kill them for good while others want to send them back to Braize...

Windrunners' surges are Adhesion and Gravitation. Pressure manipulation is none of those two. It has been speculated that Windrunners could fly to the moons, as far as I know, Team Sanderson has calculated flight times, so increasing air pressure seems to be a thing for them. The windshield might not be unique to Kaladin, but it definitely is not one of the standard surges (Adhesion does not work with underpressure, it is facilitated by molecular forces between different substances - like glue). Perhaps this is the Windrunner resonance but "just an inverted pressure surge" is downplaying it a bit.

Spoiler tags for @lonelymagician.

Another point to this: Syl seems to be the only ancient Honorspren left who was created by Honor the Stormfather herself before the Splintering and is not dead. Even the Stormfather in his current form is younger than her. I wonder whether Kaladin can do unusual things like breaking the winds because of this. With Moash running around killing Heralds for good, the Oathpact is in serious danger anyway. Hoid (Midius) handing out pictures of the Heralds is probably not helpful either. Here Frosts accusation of Hoid meddling around like a child in the workshop of his father comes to my mind.

Table of Contents: Book Two: Oathbringer

And it has Urithiru on it. Very close to the Valley!