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I added a point 9 that I know some people don't agree with, but that I think is true

Every part of that composition is deliberate. Here, let me break it down for you 5 dead guys. 5 scholars, get it? Nightblood does one thing very well, and is proud of what he can do. So there's a little bit of bragging here, plus he does it so well, images of this must be pleasing to anyone else, right? The horrible font: NB thinks it's romantic. Since he's a sword, he has no idea what romantic would be. Hearts being pierced. Vasher and Shashara. The text, of course, is also NB thinking he's being romantic and encouraging. I might have put too much thought into this.

Dalinar - Tight-butt Elend - Idealistic Moash - Sucks Amaram - Crem Lift - Awesome Cultivation - Suuuuuuuuper-Genius

Happy Valentine's Day!

My theory is that the spren were in agreement with their bondmates to die and cause the Recreance. Both the Knights and their spren decided that Honor was correct and that they would end up destroying the world if they were allowed to continue to surgebind. Without Honor, Notum and Ishar say there are fewer checks on their power, and we know they actually did destroy their previous planet. They deliberately allowed their Knights to break their Oaths, knowing that it would kill them, and alienate the remaining spren, so that no spren would be willing to seek out a bond for the foreseeable future. In this way, they save all of their fellow spren, friends, family, loved ones, as well as the humans and the Singers. We know that Honor was going mad and dying. He swore that the Knights would destroy the world. Whether that's true or not, he convinced the Knights and their spren that they were too dangerous to exist. 1. The spren are everywhere. It's nearly impossible to hide things from your own spren, and very difficult to hide things from others' spren. Most of them seem able to change size and some can change shape. Honorspren, at least, seem to be constantly curious, investigating anything interesting going on. Only the Knight they're bonded to can see them by default, so they can snoop around quite easily without being seen. An obviously coordinated effort like we see in Dalinar's vision of the Recreance would be impossible to plan without the spren finding out. 2. The spren can read thoughts. Syl can sometimes read Kaladin's thoughts, and definitely knows it on an instinctual level when he's not following his Oaths. Glys seems able to meld with Renarin, and definitely talks to him in his mind. We know that perception is important for whether a Nahel Bond is being kept or not. That it depends on the perception of the person and the spren. If the spren weren't in agreement that the Recreance needed to happen, then the Radiants who were planning on breaking their Oaths should have been losing their powers. 3. Honorspren are willing to let their Knights break Oaths if it's important enough. (WoB truncated for length). Honorspren are are willing to put the cause ahead of their own well-being. It's the nature of protecting. Kaladin is willing to die to save others, or at least put himself in harm's way. I think that this trait is not unique to honorspren, but to many of the Radiant spren. They're willing to die if it means a greater good--such as not destroying the planet. 4. Some spren don't see death the same way as humans do. Pattern is very nonchalant about dying. He fully expects, even encourages, Shallan to kill him, simply to spare her pain. Syl bounces back from being dead and doesn't really even give Kaladin grief over it. Ico doesn't seem particularly upset over his father being a dead-eye. He even is very understanding about why humans break Oaths. Other spren are downright friendly with humans. Even Wyndle, who is quite a fussy little voidbringer, mentions that they don't exactly die, though he is admittedly nervous about it happening to him. 5. The Radiants didn't lose their powers before the Recreance. As I mentioned in 1 (felt like it bore repeating), in Dalinar's vision of the Recreance, the Windrunners had their powers up to the point where they broke their Oaths. They flew to Feverstone Keep, their Blades and Plate were still glowing. 6. The other spren don't seem to know the reason for the Recreance. Ico thinks the reason for the Recreance was that humans couldn't honor Oaths. Notum just thinks Radiants are dangerous. Niether of them seem to care or mention much about the possibility of surgebinders destroying the planet. I think that the bonded spren at the time deliberately did not tell their friends and relatives what they were going to do, in order to enhance the shock factor, as well as the sense of betrayal by the humans. This would discourage just about all the spren from ever seeking a Radiant again, unless they were desperate. The best way to prevent future bonds was to shock and horrify all the other spren so much that the idea would be unthinkable for millennia. 7. The spren didn't leave or choose to have their Oath broken. Notum mentions there are "other ways" than killing the Knight, at least until the 5th Oath is sworn. Bui;ding on 6, if the spren didn't agree with their Knights, shouldn't some of them have tried to break their bond? It doesn't appear as if any of them did. 8. The skybreakers and highspren didn't break their Oaths. Highspren and Skybreakers hold the Law and Oaths as the highest possible Ideal, so to speak. The highspren would never have agreed to breaking the Oaths, and the Radiants likely wouldn't either, or weren't willing to kill their spren without their consent. They must have agreed to some degree though, because they've never told the other spren why all the other Orders foreswore their Oaths. 9. The spren didn't break their Oaths on their own (controversial). I believe that the spren can break the bond to their humans on their own. That they didn't also implies that they were complicit in the Recreance. This is a point of contention between me and some of the proponents of this theory, though, so I've marked it controversal. So, thoughts, opinions? Oh and thanks to @Calderis . Like Wit mentions, timeliness is important, and Calderis thought of this before me, although I came to it independently I posted this with his blessings.

Kelsier in the ice dancing competition.... *dies*

Vasher could carry it off. I think the sadistic Inquisitor would have kept an especially metallic eye on Kelsier.

Rude.

Hmmm maybe a good idea. Let me think about it for a while. In the meantime Awakener marathon runners! "Be as my feet and run for me". You could just chill out in your shoes as they do all the work Pewterarm gymnastics would be works of art.

Gaspers would do really well at the short-distance swimming competitions! I'd bet on the Reshi Greatshell for the 100,000 meter marathon swim though.

As he lay bleeding upon the stones, the wounds from his metal minds being pushed out of his body seared his mind. Just before he lost consciousness, he saw the Inquisitor, eye spikes glinting, lean down and whisper, "Cheaters never prosper." Blackness took him.

Hmmm yeah, metal detectors or a sadistic Inquisitor with multiple a-steel spikes who would love to push those metal minds right outta your body.

Oh good question! Ummm, issue them a brand new metal mind before hand, and give them x hours to fill it?

I added a bit of a restriction to my post, because we need to make sure those darn surgebinders don't get supercharged with stormlight to beat out all those poor allomancers who only get what's in their vials

I feel like coinshots would give windrunners a decent run for their money in a lot of cases. They'd also be good for luge.

With the Winter Olympics going on, let's come up with what Orders, Mistings, Ferrings, Twinborns, etc etc would be great at what sport! Any magic system, any sport in the Olympics. Oathbringer included, so I added OB spoiler tags. For example, Edgedancers would be great at speedskating! Dustbringers could probably rock the Curling. Thugs would really nail the Discus throw. Any other ideas? Edit: To make sure the competitions are fair, there's a larkin that sucks all the investiture from you before your turn, and you are given measured doses of your flavor of investiture--say 1 mark worth of stormlight, x amount of steel, etc.

I didn't say consecutively or constantly bonded But more often bonded than not, imo.

I'm sure that in 2000 years or so, the Stormfather could be bonded and create some new honorspren. What records survived that period state 3 Bondsmiths. Those records are likely the latest ones, as they would be more likely to survive than earlier, pre-Aharietiam ones. I find it highly unlikely that the Stormfather wasn't bonded between those two events. And even if he weren't, he was bonded at some point, and had forgotten the nature of men. Syl has definitely been bonded before, and she didn't know what lying, sarcasm, or death were until after she started bonding to Kaladin. For Melishi, I don't think that it was intentional. One of the epigraphs concerning Melishi specifically mentioned unintended consequences. Breaking the minds of the parsh seems likely to be one of those unintended consequences, rather than a purposeful action. The primary intent was to deprive them of voidlight.

The Stormfather doesn't understand humanity, and we know that he was bonded before. I think without the bond, their understanding fades. The Stormfather was likely bonded between when the Heralds left and the Recreance. We're talking thousands of years here, so if there had only been two Bondsmiths during that entire time, it would be both weird and mentioned. Also, Honor was still alive, and I'm sure he would have required the Stormfather to be bonded. As for the title, how about correcting the spelling? Melishi, rather than Melshi, hurt instead of hurted, Nightwatcher instead of NIghtwatcher. (I'm kidding, but you did ask!)

I think that gemstone probably had a voidspren in it, or contained voidlight. I don't think Gavilar would have managed to have *two* Unmade, and Yelig-nar was messing with Aesudan in Kholinar before the Singers attacked.

I think Odium saw him dying, so didn't look at him any further. Since he didn't die, everything that he does from that point on is completely unexpected, which is why he was a dark area.

Something being scarred implies that it's healed, but has left a mark. So yes, Odium has been hurt, but I don't think he's left chunks of his power anywhere that he didn't intend to. He's just more cautious now. If anyone, I suspect Skai (Dominion) is the one that hurt him.

Sorry, the essay for Threnody says that Ambition was grievously wounded, not Odium. Odium is fine.

The current prevailing theory is that BAM is stuck in a gemstone and hidden somewhere. She might be in the gemstone Gavilar gave to Szeth, who then hid it somewhere in Jah Keved.

That's been theorized, but we don't have any concrete proof of it.