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Snip now has the dagger used to kill Burnt. Who ever killed burnt chose to kill someone who had a single vote, and would have known that Snip would get it.

This I would also like to know Snipexe.

I feel like I'd honestly rather not vote on any of the constables. We can live with 10-15% uncertainty in results for a little while. Rereading the writeup, because I'm sure that Joe left clues in the writeup, Wilson could well be the culprit, given that Altea survived a sip. I feel like Joe'd also do so to mess with Wilson. But as Wilson's PR Agent, I am not willing to actually put a vote on her in this game. With only a few hours left, I want to poke the inactives: @Bugsy, @Arraenae, @Rathmaskal Rathmaskal - you've been on since cycle started? Any thoughts at all?

Alright, some vote tallies: Lynch Tally Bard (0): Drake{1} Con. Joe (4): Striker, Bard{2}, Lumgol, Elandera Burnt (1): Snipexe Con. Gaea (2): Fifth, Drake{2}, Bard{1} Con. Wilson (2): Araris, Ray Fura (1): Elbereth Election Tally Alvron (0): Alvron{1} Drake (2): Drake, Striker Elbereth (2): Hael, Elbereth Venture (2): Snipexe, Venture No-Vote (2): Fifth, Elandera Araris (1): Araris Burnt Spaghetti (1): Alvron{2}

Oh don't worry, it makes me feel old too. But you're welcome.

Have you not seen Pirates of the Caribbean? Fun Fact: There are people learning to drive cars who were born after The Curse of the Black Pearl was released... It's be a *very* long time since El and I played the same game, and it's been rare that we've had an opportunity to work together. I trust her to be a sensible Governor, and she'll do a better job than I.

Why hello there. If I had to guess, Altea Meza poisoned the wine. Could be the corrupt constable, but if we killed her, well, there'd be no more items, right? I'm sure we'd surprise Joe if we Day 1'd the black market I'll start by throwing my support behind Senator Elentari (Elbereth) for Governor.

I've time to remove my vote from RayOfSunshine and place it on Randuir instead, but any further thoughts will have to come later.

Completeness, mostly. I know you're a PM Spider, but it's true that you've only posted twice, and that was Day 1. As an aside, did you get notified that I mentioned you? Not sure how mention notifications interact with edits. So, that's the less active players. While I probably need to do another pass through the backlog, I'm struggling to pick out anything substantial to be suspicious of. There's maybe one or two small things I can look into and think about, but that's going to have to wait till I do another more in depth pass. For the moment, I would love to get people's thoughts on Stink. PM me if you don't want to share in thread for whatever reason, but I'd be of a mind to lynch him if he's mostly just had out of game conversations with everyone. I will put a vote on RayOfSunshine. Of the inactives, their contributions have been the smallest, while their forum activity is high. This is still mostly a poke vote, but it really is past since time to contribute something.

I apologise oft and easily, sorry. More the issue there though was I'm happier when I've got theories and solid suspicions backing up my vote. Right at the start though, there's no real information, so there's no foundation to vote on. I think it's important to actually put down votes as much as possible, though I also dislike being entirely random about it, which is why I didn't vote last cycle. So I apologised for putting a vote on someone I thought was most likely not evil for a super small thing that someone else had vaguely suggested, because it's then on me for removing someone from the game right at the start for little reason. Currently in the process of reading back through everything, making some notes. Taking longer than I expected, so I'm posting this now, and I'll either append further thoughts to this, or post again if someone posts beforehand. Edit: So, @Burnt Spaghetti, you've not posted since Day 1. Show yourself @Snipexe We've not heard from you since your post Day 2 where you promised us more thoughts. Hadn't your time freed up after finishing the project? You managed 5 posts day 1. @shanerockes You've posted 3 times Two reactive posts Day 1, and a random musing about the inquisitor day 2. Can you not put any votes down at all? What are your thoughts about the mistborn claim? @Sart Again, two posts Day 1, one post Day 2, and the day 2 was just a poke vote you didn't come back and do anything further with. Same question, I guess. Thoughts on the mistborn claim? I don't think I'm actually suspicious of any of you those, but please contribute a bit more to the thread. Stink hasn't contributed much to thread, but I get the impression he's still active in PMs, not that he's talking to me - our PM sorta fizzled and died. None of it was game relevant though. I'd be of a mind to lynch him if he's be super active without actually contributing anything useful at all... @RayOfSunshine You've contributed basically nothing, but are active on the forum. No thoughts at all? Again, thoughts on the Mistborn claim?

Currently this lynch is excessively boring - no one dies unless there are two votes on them. I've always cared about being careful with sharing information, and as much one thinks that saying you're vanilla (assuming truthful, but that was my gut feeling) seems insignificant, it helps the spiked team find useful roles, which is a bad thing. I'd already commented about it earlier in the game (I think?), so I was a little annoyed they just posted that before anything at all. I think the activity of this cycle is evidence enough for why it would have been nice to keep Aman alive. If you're curious about my playstyle from last time I played, the closest game to this I've played was LG22, where I was Padan Fain, a conversion faction. After the eliminators got quite the beating in the early game, I became a larger threat. Sorry everyone, been a super busy two days, and I agreed an hour ago to run an impromptu D&D game in 8.5 hours, most of which I will be sleeping through. I feel bad for not voting, but if I were put a vote, it would be with little basis as I've not been able to give the game much thought. I'm currently leaning village on Fifth and Bard, but that's about the extent of what I have to say. If some convinces me to put a vote down in the next 5 minutes, then I will, but otherwise I need to sleep and won't be back on till rollover.

Huh. I didn't notice Lum had said lives either. My vote was also due to being comparatively low activity - only 1 post up to that point and I didn't care for either of the other lynch candidates. I will point out though that everyone else had been talking about the number of spikes, not lives, and that Lum says that they agree with fifth. Looking at what fifth said, fifth said 2-3 spikes. So really, if anything, fifth was underplaying the Inquisitor more, only they were actually talking which is more valuable. I need to think...

Argh. Don't roleclaim immediately... Sigh, that was a lot to happen. I'll need to read through it all again carefully. RIP Aman. Really wish you hadn't died... @Straw Is a conversion an action?

Does the conversion have to happen the cycle after a misting dies, or does just having a stockpile of misting corpses allow them to convert whenever? Edit: Alright, I need to sleep. I'll see people next cycle (probably).

It'd make Alvron proud (Edit: I had forgotten that we need 2 votes for someone to actually get lynched.)

Alright, if I had to put my vote anywhere, I'd put it on Lumgol. With I think only the one post, I'd also probably agree with Bard that it's not ideal to downplay the power of the evil team. I do feel a little bad locking in two votes (short of vote manipulation), but I don't care for the other options. As it is, we've a 3 way tie if Aman does remove or sooth his vote... Again, I'd recommend everyone putting down a vote of some sort. There's 3 candidates currently, but there's plenty enough votes available to choose someone else. If you want one of the 3 to die, then do so. If you want the tie, vote anyway but try keep the tie balanced.

To be clear, being talkative and supporting discusison isn't grounds for keeping you around indefinitely. But in my books, without good cause, it worth giving you leeway for the first cycle or two. After that, all bets are off. Just because everyone could do what you do, from what I've seen, most of the time they do not Edit: Thanks Sart. I'll remove my vote. And now I've a problem. I think it's important for people to vote - it's something substantial we can look back on, and even if there's little to go on right now, just the act of how people do vote with such little info can be useful. That doesn't mean it's easy to choose where to put a vote, and if I'm going to put a vote down, this is the last time I'm able to do so this cycle. I'll reread and see if I can come up with anything...

@Sart, what had made you wonder about this? Sart While I think it could be nice to get an early Inquisitor conversion to get the game moving along, this is the only cycle I'd care to actually do anything to help that, and definitely wouldn't want to be waiting for them to get all their conversions off. Regardless of what we do, it's be a good discussion to have had though. I feel reticent to lynch Aman day 1 - village/spiked/future convert, I feel like I'd prefer to keep his level of activity alive for at least the next cycle or two. Fifth, Brightness, Rand, and maybe Devotary I'd also put in a similar position. Obviously, if any are exhibiting suspicious behaviour, lynch away, but I've not seen anything that I'd call suspicious from them yet.

El and Alv are playing? Sign me up. Dying worked wonders for cleaning up Assistant Constable-General Dr Rab Heatherlocke corrupt tendencies. Leaving the force forcefully, once he was once again breathing fresh air, he figured he'd try his hand a politics. He'd spent enough time working with senators, he was pretty sure he could do the job too, right?

Fine, name and shame... Spar is a skaa who grew up on the streets of Luthadel, fortunate enough to be apprenticed to a cobbler. Some thoughts. In LG2, the enhanced powers the Inquisitor had were: In LG32 the enhanced powers were: Keep in mind that they had 29 players (as did LG32), and we only have 18. I'd imagine the Inquisitor has at most 4 spikes, or if we're lucky they may only have 3. If there's a really weird role distribution, then 2 is I think possible (meaning only one convert), but I reckon that's unlikely. Anyways. Assume 4 spikes, then we've 3 conversions to worry about, and the inquisitor will have 4 abilities. Note that between the last two games, 4 abilities were the same type, although the Seeker ability was changed between games, and instead of the UberTineye, the second game had an UberLurcher ability. Maybe this time we'll see Uber Emotional Manipulation (in other words, Uber Vote Shenanigans). Anyways, I think it's fairly safe to assume the Inquisitor will have UberPewter, UberSteel, and UberCopper, plus probably one other. Maybe we'll get lucky with village seekers, but I'm not expecting that we'll get much luck finding the inquisitor (though that's not a reason for any seekers to not scan - find allies, and any spiked once we get conversions). @Straw I assume that any converts do not get the normal version of the UberPower the Inquisitor gave up to spike them, only a chance of whatever misting ability was used to spike them? Now, to read thread: Ah, I see others have already brought up the powers. I think I added a little detail though. I do feel like 4 is not outside of the realms of possibility. It's still ends up being under 25%, and again, depending on village roles, could probably work. Just a reminder to be careful of roleclaims - if too many roleclaim honestly and it gets back to the spiked team, it can help them hunt down players like the tineye, or any potential coinshots, or say the mistborn. I'm not saying don't, but be careful. Re: Aman roleclaim - sigh. This does not surprise me. It's an Aman thing to do. But I don't think it makes me trust him any more or less. He could easily pull off a publicly revealed Inquisitor, I'm sure. I do probably agree with Aman though. While what gives us the most information is not lynching at all for a day or two and wait for information to come in from seeing what kills/protects/redirects happen, until we get a conversion, and then do something. But that's also incredibly boring, and the games being fun is more important. I'm not sure I care to lynch Aman though - I'd much prefer to lynch an inactive, given the choice.

Under Basics in the rules, it says rollover should be 4pm EST, so I'm assuming that is the timezone for the game start also. Plus, Straw only corrected me for the NZT link I gave, not the EST one.

Out of curiosity, if I'm reading the rules correctly, could the village all decided to visit the hospital and stay there permanently? Given it wasn't an action to visit, I don't see why they couldn't. Anyway, ignoring puppeteering, if the eliminators join the village in visiting the hospital, no one dies (no Elim kill, no sabotage, and no lynch), and the game goes on for ever, or the eliminators don't visit, get a kill and a lynch but then it's obvious who they are, for the village to then go and lynch.

Sign me up. I've got the time to play for once and I'm in the mood. Character incoming... (Watch this space) LG58 commences

Can I vote Hadrian for having the most Heatherlocke name?

I don't know if this was true or not, but I felt like as an eliminator team, we on the whole were in the eliminator activity golden zone - not inactive, being active enough to post here and there, enough to seem superficially active, without being active enough to truly affect too much, and not enough to be posting so much as to run into problems with being getting caught by our words. When I was doing my player read/summaries, I did the eliminators close to last. That honestly wasn't to avoid focusing on my buddies. It was because they weren't the easy ones - they weren't so inactive so as to be really quick to review all their posts, but they weren't so active and loud as to warrant immediate attention for a summary. It actually worried me near the end of that process when I realized I hadn't gotten to my buddies yet. I was honestly quite concerned, with all the difficulty you guys were having, that someone would remember the old favourite strat of searching for that golden zone of eliminator activity and uncovering all of us.