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I'd say no, b/c it spoils a lot. I suggest always starting re-reads with it, but i'd never suggest your first read starting it.

I'd guess that it would be hard to fill or tap other metal minds while filling your Nicrosil

But as we know about Rashek, he's selfish, I think a real bands of mourning wouldn't exist. That was the main problem I had with the introduction of them, the theory that the lord ruler would make it so anyone could use it doesn't seem likely to me. I'd say the legends came from Kel doing it so his is the only bands of mourning. Also, didn't we have WoB that the bands he did use ended up with Hoid? I might be making that up, but i thought so

Spoilers for Bands of Mourning So, if you have a nicrosil medallion that anyone could use, that would let you tap that and gain investiture. Normally that is with another metal to let you tap and store that one. But with Just nicrosil you could store another nicrosil one that WOULD be just for you. If you then let go of the medallion would you be able to tap your own metalmind?

Yeah, what everyone else said. You'd have a lot of investiture while you burn it, more than you'd get from tapping the full metalmind but it wouldn't last for ever. You would be able to store more of a nicrosil metalmind though, so you might actually be able to make yourself a perm nicrosil fering, but i think that would work without compounding. but now i'm wondering about making yourself a fering. haha off to making my own thread

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But it's not a normal metal, so he wouldnt want to be spiked with a god metal of a deity that drove others crazy. Even if he would want to do it, probably not with crazy godmetal

Could someone post a pic of the broadsheets? B/c in the audiobook I don't get the pictures so i don't get to see how it looks

I'd say the way it speeds you up is a lot like bendalloy's speed bubble, so when you use it, it's pretty much like everyone around you is going in slow motion. So technically it's speeding up your mind, but really just in the way that all of you is now going faster (Think of Xmen DoFP Quicksilver) But yeah, you'd need to store a lot of speed to go that fast for you to be going the same speed as the group outside of the bubble.

There has never been any evidence of a fullborn existing. Twinawesome exists because a full feruchemist became a mistborn. It looks like if a mistborn and reuchemist mate that they would only make twinborn, even if it was a full mistborn and feruchememist.

Killing someone who heals with stormlight would require not just stabbing them through the body, but making sure you got the heart or something. I think the killing scene had "making sure she is dead" just stabbing her again, not making sure it is something that would kill a radiant. haha. And she never used a sprenblade for the same reason Shallan after realizing she could, doesn't do it, a girl with a shardblade isn't something you tell people. She keeps the fact that she soulcasts with out a caster a secrete, she isn't going to let people know she could summon a super shardblade. I think either Ivory saved her and she didn't know she could do the shardblade until after her death, or she needed to fake her death there in an attempt to make sure they stop coming for her and don't accidentally kill shallan like they almost did.

Well we know it's also changed in the cognitive realm, I have no idea if it would change in the spirit realm. I'm wondering of this too.

Also, he woud sense the stormlight like burning metal and know Kal is there. Since it is a 1 on 1 fight. we'll say he'd run. Then he'd come back later and instead of fight he'd kill one in his sleep.

The problem would be all of the metal minds I'd have. Like obviously I'd store all the time until I need it, but think about how heavy it would all feel when you're storing strength, even a little bit. And the more your store, the bigger the metal minds have to be to store it all.

Yeah, normal Inquisitor would lose, but it was established in the beginning it would be a Marsh level inquisitor. Being essentially twinawesome, you could pretty much beat anyone. As established above, compounding speed makes you be able to kill people before they could react, compounding weight lets you push with tons of lbs behind you, and if you land on someone putting tons of weight on someone. Compounding pewter lets you explode people with hits, compounding mental speed lets you do all of this with near atium skills, Compounding gold lets you heal as long as it's not a sharblade to a spine (arguable, b/c it might actually heal while being cut, healing your soul before it goes all the way through), and so on.

Yeah, thats what I said before, he'd have weapons and armor all around to pretty much throw people and things around, and fly around and stuff. It would be similar to when he fought the inquisitor with the cages and everything.

I kinda BroTP Kal and Shal. I could also see that couple and Kal being a golden trio. haaha

I didn't realize until right now that she wasn't in the army

Is this from WoB or was I REALLY missing something? I only vaguely remember Unmade talks, and don't remember any names of them. I only had one read of the WoR, and I'm in a re-read of WoK followed by WoR now, so maybe just one read-through I missed a lot... lol. But back to the physical fight, I'd expect a normal rock to break before the plate, I'd go for his coins and swords and metals from fallen soldiers who would bound to be around.

Wait, do we know more about the thrill than I thought? What is Nergaoul? I personally always thought it was from Odium, him trying to make both sides more likely to kill each other and making the listeners more likely to call on the old powers.

This leads to a more interesting question, I think. We assume that because of the investiture in the shardplate that he can't be emotionally pushed, but this is the Blackthorn in his prime, would the investiture of what ever the Thrill is make it more difficult to push? "Feel dull" "storm you, I'm in a fight!"

Yeah, I like it

I also think if we give him Dularium it isn't really fair anyway. Because he doesn't know of that metal during a version of him that is fair to fight. He knew of the normal metals and atium, giving him the ability to Dburst, leech, time manipulate, etc, it wouldn't be that fair. Think if he could go into his time bubble with Dalinar on the outside, get close enough to touch him, drop the bubble and touch his chest before D has the chance to swing, Drains the chest piece of it's investiture, Makes Dalinar unable to stand because his chestplate is heavy as storm and not holding everything together, and then pushes off of the chestplate that is now metal and not invested. Like I'm obviously on team Kel would win, but giving him access to all of the metals even ones he didn't have when he was around and taking Dalinar when he is just a badass warrior with magic weapons and no magic himself, it wouldn't be very fair. That being said, I agree, he'd def need to take vial after vial if he's got. Also, I do like that when people are giving him metals he didn't know of, Dularium is the only one he's getting, and not the ones that I mentioned above, which would be way too OP, while Dularium isn't really that OP.

Yeah, I was also about to talk about Kel using the chasms to completely dominate. "Ok, I'm going to pelt you with coins while you jump across to get me." Now I steal push with a bunch of coins while pushing into the ground or a chasm behind me while they not only hit into you, but stop you from making your jump. Kel either makes him fall to his death, messes with the shardplate from a continued push of 175 lbs in one direction and a shardplate enhanced jump from the other direction, or at the very least storms with the jump enough that he won't land well and Kel has the upperhand again, to at least retreat again if he doesnt straight up continue to pelt him when he is down. And that is the simple way. Another way of looking at it, we look at two fights. Kel could beat an inquisitor who is thought to be immortal, while shardbarers are thought to be kill-able. Also, I'd assume there would also be loads of metal around because unless they met for like pistols at dawn, it would be a battlefield type of thing, so he'd use swords and armor just like he used cages and the like in that fight. Being pelted with lots of swords and bodies would be more disorienting than just bullet like coins, which would also make cracks. Second fight to look at is Szeth against anyone in shardplate. If you can't beat him because of his powers, you probably can't beat a mistborn. If you can't fight someone who could just about fly, throw people and things at you,fights without shardplate and still has the speed and strength of someone in it, and over all just fights with magic, then you can't If you can't fight someone who could just about fly, throw people and things at you,fights without shardplate and still has the speed and strength of someone in it, and over all just fights with magic.

So, I've been calling the Wax and wayne trilogy the Mistborn Trilogy 1.5 in some way. Is Mistborn Adventures the other accepted name other than the Wax and Wayne Trilogy?