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Yeah, it's in the Outside Q&A audio. Pending a transcribe, you can find the exact discussion there, a few minutes in.

Yes! @Volratho talked the Library into recording the whole lecture, reading, and general Q&A! They'll be sending him the file (think it might be video too!) here soon! EDIT Lol! You're a quick one! posted right as I did!

One of the biggest crowd-gasps: (Paraphrased) "So you start walking around the planet, and your Spren follows, but they're also on Shadesmar... So when you pass a certain area, what happens to your spren? Shadesmar is [2 dimensional] and physical space is 3 dimensional..." It's apparently very difficult for a surgebinder to take their spren off-planet... ... YEAH. WHAAAAAT DUDE?!

Shardspatula... I like...

It's probably more of a clarity thing on Brandon's part when he's speaking to his fans. If he says "Hoid has great interest in Roshar" it means something very different than if he said "Hoid has great interest in the Greater Roshar system." Even if in-book only uses "Rosharan System." Might have to keep a close eye on hsi individual word usage either way though, haha

I could totally see this particular instance harboring more than the amusing comedy we expect of Wit scenes... I mean, if the Sleepless were watching Kaladin, they'd have picked up on Wit in WoK, even as slippery as Hoid is, it might provoke interest. And the fact that Hoid is so clearly ignorant of any "intelligent audience" is far, far more amusing if it actually was a Sleepless Hordeling.

Gonna support this by also pointing out that there is literally something broken in the sky surrounding the Darkside star that has formed the particle layer that obscures the star. It could be anything, including ice or magic-mumbo-jumbo... But usually a dust ring or such comes from a celestial body being broken into fragments along it's orbit... Probably not nearly as poignant as the whole Day/Dark split of the sky... but there it is, lol. Also this: Is amazing, well done!

We've seen that you can throw a shardblade (a dead one) at someone, with conscious effort for it not to dismiss. Without the 10-heartbeat limit on living shardblades through the Nahel bond, wouldn't it be better to become a ShardArrow and fire it through a normal bow? That way it has the piercing/killing effect of a shard, AND you can near insta-recall it once it's done it's damage... And fire it again, lol. Far better than a Shardbow.

You don't kill God without wondering where that power will go... And you certainly wouldn't go through the effort of killing God without doing some research. If the Sixteen are hapless victims of unanticipated Shardic power, then it follows that they were entirely ignorant. We have yet to get hints towards the cliched "so caught up in whether they could, never stopped to think if they should" cause for conflict, and with the hints dropped about pre-motivated betrayal, it would feel odd that a group that could orchestrate the death of God would be caught unaware by the consequences of such. You you can keep your middle-theory, but I'm gonna polarize to the ends here. Full-Intent or Complete-Ignorance. Wanna make another wager? EDIT what was our last wager again? Something to remind by December of 2020 right? It's on my calendar somewhere... EDIT EDIT found it, it's Dec 31st, 2021 about Stormlight #5

"They saw the stars as the Thousand Eyes of Trell watching them." [Final Empire, Chapter 9] "They had worshipped the stars, had called them the Thousand Eyes of their god, Trell, watching them." [Hero of Ages, Chapter 82] Suddenly, actually having a thousand eyes is not so weird. If you have multiple personas (enough to fill a pantheon) it doesn't seem so odd...

Came here to say this, lol. Nightblood does not seem a true Skybreaker-aligned weapon. To add to it: Keep in mind that Nightblood doesn't know what evil is. It has some concepts of it and thoughts, but simply has a broad spectrum of what is considered "evil" Even to the point that simple greed is enough to trigger it's murderous and suicidal effects.

Too many references to the Shattering refer to it as a betrayal and the sensation of pre-meditated thought behind it. It could certainly be misleading, especially since it's so vague and we have so little at the moment. There's also the chance that the shattering was intended but the Shard-distribution un-anticipated, but again, that's a bit convoluted. I want to take Okham's advice here and stick to linear reasoning. Either it was all pre-meditated and my question to Rayse's logic stands, or it was all accidental and we've been getting the elusive run around from Hoid and the rest of those "in the know." EDIT On-Topic though: I actually had the thought when I got the notification of an upvote in this thread that Reya might have been Ambition, but alas always a bit late on the up take here. XD My money is Cultivation's vessel or Ambition's vessel. Assuming astronomy works the same in the Cosmere as it does here, "Reya's Tear" could easily be Threnody or Threnody's star. EDIT EDIT Take into mind that Ambition and Cultivation are fundamentally linked, by intent-standards. In order to Cultivate you must have ambition to accomplish something, similarly the best way to move with purpose towards an ambitious goal is to cultivate your resources for progress. It could easily be the Threnody system and "Cultivation's Tear" over it's loss.

Hoid's letter points towards Rayse having been "the most loathsome, crafty individual" [he] had ever met. Makes me think that there was far more to Rayse than grief and anger before he took up the shard. If anything, Hoid calling someone "crafty" should signify that they would be quite clever and manipulative. (Which is amusing, if the Sixteen knew what the Shards would do to them, that a "crafty" person would take up a Shard that would warp him into hatred and really twist his propensity for anger... The most cunning of people usually suppress their emotions. Then again, it could have simply been a bid for power as "He holds the most frightening and terrible of all of the Shards.") "Crafty" rarely is the result or origin of "rage"

Appreciate that! But equipment is definitely not a worry. It's simply a matter of how much do we want/should we bring? I have profesional-grade equipment I use for freelancing film/video, so I could happily bring mics, recorders, cameras, etc... We just need to decide what the Library will allow and how much we actually want/need. Personally, I think video is unnecessary in these situations, a good audio recording is both easier to capture and easier to digest and transcribe on the back-end.

You are correct, that it was I meant, which, I guess, diminishes the theory of a full 1-to-1 association, but it is still there in the form of gaseous investiture being one of the common three-parts of a Shard's "body" notably, the Spiritual aspect... I was trying to support you here! Now I'm going back to lazy astronomical notation and you can fend for yourself!

We know that each Herald is associated with a gas, and that Stormlight is the "gaseous" form of investiture on Roshar... large extra-planetary orbs of such floating in orbit of the Roshar system is not too far in the realm of possibility, and as such never something to overlook.

Yeah, gravity and oxygen concentration problems really only become an issue for newborns and sedentary long-term visitors, and that's only ever been mentioned when moving through larger-scale changes... Things like the 1/3rd gravity of Mars or the 1/6th gravity of the moon... Something like a 20%-30% difference as Khriss mentions across the cosmere shouldn't effect too much unless a very unhealthy Rosharan found themselves attempting some strenuous exercise elsewhere.

Yes, I definitely feel that Kel would NOT want people to know that Knowledge is power, and Kel, more than anyone, knows the power in another secret.

Agreed. To a Herald, "demigod" would mean a powerful Splinter (or the other Heralds, and I wouldn't put it past Nale to judge one of the other 8 and take action.) ... OR we could put on our super-thick tinfoil here and say that he's talking about Honor and that he and the other Heralds were somehow (or feel somehow) responsible for his destruction...

That was basically my exact argument with opposite nomenclature origins... So yeah, I approve... Partially. However, We know that the Heralds (and their names) predate the current Alethkar culture, as we see Heralds conversing with each other using (versions of) those names during the end of the Heraldic Epochs... And I just doubt that they would name themselves after the Alethela/Vorin numbering system. I just think it follows the base entagled-ten we find all over Roshar, and if there's one thing that really survived through the Desolations, its the Heralds. It's said Alethela and the Silver Kingdoms survived through the Desolations, but if the Heralds return expecting technology to have been beaten back into pre-bronze-age, the nations and their cultures have to be quite fluid as well. It just feels like "language" itself is far more mutable, and would stem from prehistoric observations (like the 10 Heralds and all the other base-10 laws of nature Roshar has) and as such, Heralds > Number System > Planet names. But yeah, I don't think it has any deeper connotations than simply the Astronomer growing lazy and saying "Yeah, we'll just label those One through Ten."

It could very simply be that each of the ten planets were named after the Heralds because that's how Roshar does things. Everything is in tens, sure, that's divine intervention there... But each planet being named after a Herald? Could simply be a result of a pious astronomer.

Trepidation? We don't have a Shard for "Fear" or "Worry" yet... While Patience and Hope seem a good fit, so many of these are, what I'd call, "Noble" attributes. Preservation, Endowment, Devotion, Honor, Cultivation... On the flip side we have Hatred, Ruin, Dominion, And the inbetweens of Ambition, Autonomy, etc... I feel like we're due for another "ugly" Shard. One that isn't such a sunny spot in the Cosmere... Something like Fear or Despair, maybe even Anguish or the big daddy itself, Oblivion/Nothingness. Just my speculation, and of course it only obeys false-averages, since we technically have 6 more to go. So it's just a "Think we're about due for..." thought.

Completely agree. Especially in a universe where we know a connection can exist on the cognitive or spiritual and not have to be blind mysticism. Let me pose you this though: In the cosmere, all things exist on the three realms. If some cremlings are considered a single creature—either through hivemind or, as I assume, a "Cognitive" hivemind where it is a true "psychic" link—how far do cremlings have to get within their own "sapient" thoughts as an individual creature on the physical to make it so on the Cognitive? I'm doing a poor job of explaining myself, but say the rules of the cosmere existed here on Earth as we know it. I would definitely wager than an Ant Hive or Termite Hill would be so lacking of the "thought" of the individual that they would exist on the cognitive as a single "being." Our study of these insects really pushes the thought of a single entity made of billions of parts, and that each individual functions as part of the whole, and therefore on the Cognitive, only the "whole" would get an aspect. So too could be with cremlings. If they don't possess enough of their own thought processes to consider their physical bodies as individuals, they could easily all be Sleepless. By the simple functions of the Cosmere. "I think therefore I am" is one of the most powerful ideas in this Adonalsium-verse... If every cremling thinks of itself as nothing more than a piece of a whole... They are the whole.

Ashyn isn't what you're thinking about correct? As it isn't a major shardworld? It is the place of the next novella though, where people attain powers through disease...

I must be the only person who saw "change faces" and "disappear" and when confronted by Arco and saw "missing body parts, but forming together" and thought KANDRA! Proved quite wrong a paragraph later but damnation, had me going for a second.