AsherCrane

Sylphrena/Kaladin ship.

RPG spoilers:

Honestly, same. I was hoping the oaths would go up on Coppermind, but some are still missing.

I can't quote exactly, but according to the coppermind and my own recollection, Honor claimed that Devotion was the shard of Divine love and compassion.

For me personally, I can't quite put myself on Mattel's scale because I do have strong convictions about gay relationships, but I'm also not overly vocal about it (unless asked, like this particular thread did). I understand that most people believe strongly enough in whatever conviction that trying to argue or debate them is an exercise in futility. Having said that, I do get why Renarin and Rlain were in the book. Gay people exist, and it's fair to say a fictional world would not be as human without them. I won't say I need them to be main characters, but I'm also not biased toward that, so of course I would. I knew there would be gay romance in the book, so as with anything else I don't want to read too much of, it was a matter of thresholds to me. With little enough, I'd still have bought it. With some more, I still finished it. (I didn't buy it, but Renarin and Rlain were very much not the only reason for that by a long road.) And if there was enough to make me uncomfortable enough, I'd have put it down and been done with the series. It didn't reach that, so I intend to continue the series.

Not sure if we have onscreen, but Glys took the form of a blade offscreen to operate the Oathgates.

This one in particular I also found really cool. I'm happy they didn't end up as just big, one-note creatures.

Fanstic question. Some of the ones I recall really liking were definitely Kaladin, Nale, and the Wandersail for 1, and 2. I really liked the scene where Szeth finds tthe sheep toy and breaks down, with Kaladin realizing Szeth is closer to Tien than himself. I know this last one will be controversial, but I honestly loved Kaladin standing up in the midst of feeling Ishar's darkness. Don't get me wrong, the writing was not fantastic to me there, but the soul of that scene felt like a dramatic and proper climax to his arc.

On the other hand, Ruin explicitly was willing to preserve some things to create greater destruction. Terrifying to think that Mercy without Devotion (Which Honor described as Divine love and compassion), could be one massive savior complex that creates problems specifically to save people from it.

Technically untrue on 2 accounts. 1. Inaction can certainly lead to punishment. One could argue that it does so less often perhaps, but not enought to say not trying is the surest way to avoid it. 2. Mercy is the deliberate forgiveness of punishments, not just a lack of suffering. Without punishment or suffering, there would not be more mercy, mercy would not exist. Going with Ambition would the surest way of finding people who need Mercy to save them from their ambitious screw-ups.

True. I suppose my argument was more against Oltux saying Gavinor deserved death as though the guy specifically chose to betray humankind out of malice toward humanity itself, rather than making an argument against whether or not Dalinar had moral stance to kill him. Edit: Actually, to add onto this... it was pointedly one person, not even humanity who did this. And unless he had children before he died (which is possible, idr), Melishi's line might not have even lived past that.

Ignorance? All it would take is Taravangian convincing Gavinor that his way is more noble and helps the most people (a fact Taravangian himself believes, so it's not even a lie), and showing him only the things that would reinforce the idea that Dalinar was actually worse for *everyone* than Taravangian would be. With the right spin, (easy enough with complete control of Gavinor's whole situation), Gavinor could easily end up with the belief that this is better for all of mankind. Do you believe Gavinor needs to die for only seeing half the picture, framed in such a way that he has no idea half the picture is even missing?

Technically, a child was raised to think he father was a monster, and that he'd gain Alethkar if he killed Dalinar. Raised from a very young age to think that way, and only shown what would reinforce it. As far as he knew, he was saving Althekar from Dalinar.

As well as the fact that as far as I recall, all spren we have seen have been repeated or constant events. I could see there being a shatterspren, representing the concept of shattering, but not one for a single event like the shattering.

This is The Stormlight-only WaT board. This should be in the cosmere one, no? If returned are being discussed and such, I mean.