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We probably have to be a little skeptical of the ars arcanum in regards to voidbinding. Brandon has already shown a willingness to contradict his own glossaries in future novels (10 Allomantic metals anyone?). The ars arcanum is written by Khriss, and there's hasn't been any voidbinding on Roshar in the last 4,500 or so years. Seems unlikely that she or Nazh have witnessed any voidbinding (yet).
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Got it. Chapter 17, page 266 of the Kindle version. Question for me is whether the healing is 100% serialized. Does it focus on healing each particles in order, or would it heal multiple parts of the same wounds simultaneously?
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[OB] What is up with Mraize and Ialai?
Salkara replied to Toaster Retribution's topic in Stormlight Archive
Back to topic (somewhat?). Do we know for certain the Ghostbloods are a group of worldhoppers, or could it just a group infiltrated by at least two worldhoppers? By that, is it possible for Ialai to be ranked higher than Mraize as a Ghostblood but not be a worldhopper? -
I thought it had been stated elsewhere (MB Era 2?) that cosmere healing doesn't happen in parrallel, it happens in series? I.e. Healing the most pressing injuries is given priority. I could be wrong and don't have time to look it up just yet. As for whether it's a wound or not... isn't that what we're debating? I think it's more of a spiritual wound (e.g. wounded Connection) than a physical wound (e.g. severed limb), but if you thought of it as a wound, you'd probably also think stormlight could heal it, right? Hopefully one of us will be proven right (or wrong) in just over 14 hours .
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[OB] What is up with Mraize and Ialai?
Salkara replied to Toaster Retribution's topic in Stormlight Archive
More Hoid please! -
Yes, but what he feels familiarity with is the healing of an injury received in battle. Presumably, previous instances of stormlight healing always targeted physical injuries first and didn't gave enough left to heal his memory. Dalinar may have been using stormlight to heal for some time, but he's never held enough for it to be visible. It's possible that at least some aspects of stormlight healing are quantized. By that, I mean you either have enough to heal or you don't heal at all (e.g. no half-healing). This doesn't seem to be the case with injuries in the physical realm, but the cognitive and spiritual realms are different. It could be that a wounded Connection can't be repaired with micro-healings.
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There have been systems with professional jurors before. As with any system, there are upsides and downsides. With professional jurors, you do gain expertise but also have a higher chance of corruption. If you want to buy off a jury, it's a lot easier to do it when the pool of potential jurors is known in advance. Additionally, it's harder for professional jurors to remain impartial due to their closeness to the system and need to maintain a working relationship with the court and both sides of the bench. Your attorney pissed off some of the jurors last week? Don't expect a fair trial.
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Let's get even murkier! Who owns the grain in the possession of the healed parshmen? Under Alethi law, it belongs to the villagers in Hearthstone, and the parshmen (in addition to being runaway slaves) are thieves. Kaladin noted that it was a dangerous position for the villagers to be without that grain after the harvest. But maybe the villagers owe the grain to the listeners? Maybe the Let's assume three options: Listeners keep the grain and survive the next couple months, but this results in many of the villagers dying from starvation. Villagers get the grain back and don't share. Many of the listeners die from starvation as a result. Listeners and villagers share the grain. Many survive, but some of the elderly and sick from both groups die due to insufficient nutrition. Note, here I'm assuming the listeners will be more active than they were previously, and thus will require a greater amount of food than they previously did. Is the a "right" option or just one that's less worse than the others. First point. I guess I should have been more clear. I was speaking in regards to intent. If you have friends over for dinner and serve peanut butter cookies, only to find out that the newest member of your group is deathly allergic to peanuts, you're not guilty of attempted murder. If you knew about the allergy, you may be guilty. Second point. That's not actually correct. Stop and render aid laws apply when you are in an accident. They're in place mainly so that drunks can't flee from an accident and avoid trouble. If you witness an accident but aren't part of it, you're under no obligation to stop and help.
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Or, you know, they had more pressing matters. Stopping the end of the world might take precedence over Nohadon's real name.
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Do you feel this responsibility only because you're white, or is it an outgrowth of the social justice and equality your morality demands that you seek? If you were Asian, do you believe you would (or should) feel less responsibility to help fix the problem, or do you believe all humans are responsible for social justice and equality, regardless of race? I agree with you on what the right and wrong decisions that humanity can make. Let's make it murkier though. Let's say humans elect to go with your best option, but the healed parshmen reject the overtures and instead want reparations from humanity (could be money, or even 4,500 years of humans-enslaved-to-listeners as an eye-for-eye type of thing). Let's say a sizable fraction of the healed parshmen are willing to go to war if their demands aren't met. What becomes the right course of action then?
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Question Does Silverlight exist solely in the Cognitive Realm? Brandon Sanderson Yes. link Silverlight is in the CR, no idea where in the CR though.
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I'm with you up until the part I emphasized. If a person unknowingly commits a crime, most legal systems will hold them innocent (assuming no negligence) and not require punishment or reparations. Moreover, when it comes to the parshmen, why should the responsibility for remedying the situation fall on the humans? It isn't their fault the listeners were stuck in slaveform, and aside from a very small few (e.g. Diagramists, Heralds, etc.), humanity didn't know that parshmen could be anything other than parshmen. I'd amend your statement to say that when an aspect of society is found to be flawed, it is the responsibility of all involved parties to come to a new understanding. What happened to the listeners, while terrible, does not place the onus for fixing the problem solely upon the humans. Rather, it is the responsibility of both humans and listeners to find common ground and move forward. One last thing that came to my mind. Let's say a comet hits earth and fills the air with some unknown element that gives human-level intelligence to all apes. Furthermore, it turns out the only reason the apes weren't human-smart before is because thousands of years ago, some guy (let's call him Brian) found a way to gather all of that unknown element and hid it somewhere. Brian died after a normal lifespan, and never told anyone what he did or how to undo it. We can probably agree that nobody likes Brian, but does anyone else bear responsibility for his actions? Are you responsible for testing conducted on lab monkeys? Should we now demonize zoos which had breeding programs for endangered ape species? How much of your livelihood are you willing to give up so that newly-intelligent apes with no marketable skills have a reasonable quality of life? How much responsibility do you, as a member of Brian's species, have for the situation Brian created?
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Sure, it was wrong, but you and everyone else believed Joe was guilty. Are you suggesting that humanity ignore consensus and refuse to punish those who apparently guilty? Juries get things wrong. Does that mean we shouldn't have juries? What are you suggesting as a better system?
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How, in terms of Cosmere mechanics, would either work? As an example, here's how I would explain stormlight healing: Nightwatcher severed Dalinar's Connection to Evi. Investiture (in the form of stormlight) healed the damaged Connection.
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No conclusive evidence as of yet; however, #3 is the only one we can reasonably explain with Realmatics. The other two options require the an extension to the magic system in order to work. I'm sure we'll see the magic system get extended at some point, but why do it now when there's already an available mechanic?
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Haven't Hoid and Lift already met? She comments about the white haired guy who got eaten whole by some sort of giant crustacean.
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The real problem with this ethical dilemma is that it ignores the vast amount of time that's taken place. Even if humans caused the damage to listener souls at the end of the Last Desolation, what responsibility do modern humans have for it? They didn't have a say in the decision. They were born into a world where it occurred millennia ago. Let's try characterizing it in terms of our world. Let's start by assuming that in the year 2500 BCE, the people of Ancient Egypt performed some magic ritual. As a result, the people of the Akkadian Empire (and their descendants, in perpetuity) are stuck in parshman slaverform. Over the millennia, they are integrated into human society. In the present day, we use them as menial laborers. Some are mistreated; others aren't. They can't do complex tasks and will for starve to death if left alone, but Akkadians are really good at simple, mundane tasks. They're a body without much of an apparent mind and no observable emotions. Now we get there Everstorm, and suddenly all Akkadians have the same capacity as everyone else. What responsibility would any of us have for the status quo? Should we have let them starve? Should we have fed them without expecting them to work? Most of us don't even know where the Akkadian Empire was located (I'll bet 90% of you will have to look it up on Wikipedia like I did). Some of us might think it's one of those fictional countries used in sword and sorcery stories (e.g. Cimmeria, home of Conan). Yes, what happened to them tragic. Yes, it was most likely something done by very distant ancestors of modern humans. However, modern humans have no knowledge of that. They get a lot of the more recent history worth wrong as it is. Why should they be held accountable for something they didn't do and in which they had no say?
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Except we saw over a thousand stormform Voidbringers get taken out by normal soldiers and several shardbearers. Unless there's some way for Voidbringers to get more powerful, their threat lies in their numbers, and if there is a way to power them up, it'll have to fairly hard to achieve (otherwise they'll over power the good guys by an insane amount due to said numbers).
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Problem with the "really cool magic system," from a meta PoV, is that it's overpowering all the protagonists. With enough stormlight, they can't be killed except by a crushing blow to the head. That's ridiculously overpowered if the fuel they use isn't a scarce commodity, and/or there isn't a readily accessible way to counter their magic (Larkins would work, but they're so rare as to be considered extinct by most people).
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[OB] What is up with Mraize and Ialai?
Salkara replied to Toaster Retribution's topic in Stormlight Archive
Unless he didn't know. I mean, do we know Mraize's real name? -
[OB] What is up with Mraize and Ialai?
Salkara replied to Toaster Retribution's topic in Stormlight Archive
What if Ialai is Thaidakar? -
Well, it probably won't go that badly. WoB is that people on Roshar are generally very healthy because of the Stormlight in highstorms. While that means they're more susceptible to diseases brought onto the planet by worldhoppers (due to a lack of antibodies), it also means they're likely to be more resilient to new diseases than we are. No matter how realistic a fantasy world is, there's always a point where you have to accept that somethings don't transfer 1:1 because of magic. This is probably one of those cases.
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The Shattered Plains were the site of Natanatan's capital, Stormseat, during the time of the Silver Kingdoms.
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My understanding is that the Divine Attributes were related to the Heralds, and the KR orders just tried to live according to their patron's attributes. Doesn't mean it was baked into the requirement for the Nahel bond. Additionally, with Eshonai stated as a PoV for either book 4 or 5 and all the hints that there will be a surgebinding listener, the theory is that Eshonai will be a Knight Radiant. Among the orders, the Willshapers seem to be the most likely because their general "love of adventure, novelty, or oddity" fits the best with what we know of Eshonai's personality.
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Aren't the Thaylen and Iriali peoples completely different? Like one has eyebrows past their ears, the other has metallic-looking golden hair, and they're located on the opposite sides of the continent.
