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Regarding sel don't we see some references to aonic force fields or something?

Are we to understand that the Rosharians working on behalf of Retribution/Odium now? My recollection is that at the end of The Skybreaker presumably has access to his surges? As of the end of Stormlight 5 those are only coming from Retribution, right? Or are people still able to bond Spren without his permission/control?

Do we know that he is a Paathian and not a Survivorist?

He says to Shallan's that they've had their own crisis on Scadrial recently. I read this to mean that the conversation takes place after events of TLM.

I understood Heleran to be the bastard referred to by Nale, since he is the only one who doesn't have some kind of mental health type issue (at least that we're aware of).

Honestly Dai-gonarthis’s baseline price isn't that high but she's set up one of those touchscreen tip prompts and you don't know if you'll get good service if you don't tip so her price is like 25 percent higher in practice

We don't have many books taking place afterwards but I believe that there are some general references to what's happening in Roshar in The Lost Metal.

We were told that the SF calling Kaladin "son of Tanavast" as opposed to merely "son of Honor" (like for Dalinor) had some specific meaning for Kaladin. Do we get any insight on this?

So this turned out to be right, though apparently not Cultivation's plan and not restrictive of Hodium the way that I'd expect. I'm guessing that the wording was still foreshadowing. I had always kind of understood Honor and Odium to be more in the way of antagonists, with Odium being about yielding to your emotion and desires and Honor being about sublimating them to a higher purpose, but apparently that was not correct.

5. What was up with Shallans childhood? Why was she improsined? I assume that this has something to do with her inherited mental illness. 16. What was the point of going into the visions? I dont understand Cultivations plan. Sanderson had a ton of backstory to fill to make his story make sense and decided to do a giant dump. 21. Can Retribution not just destroy the Heralds the moment they leave their oathpact, as he has authority over all of Honor? Just like Odium could have destroyed the Fused or remade an Unmade? I don't think that they leave the oathpact by coming to Roshar. The oathpact goes on. I

That is a good thought on the stone-hadn't made the connection.

So, one of the things that has never really been explained as far as I can tell, is why Roshar has embodying unintelligent Spren (lifespren, heatspren, etc) when nowhere else in the cosmere has them. We see intelligent spren (i.e. seons) elsewhere but not phenomenon on roshar where all sorts of generalized concepts have visible spren. So Shinovar does not have any of these kinds of spren as Kaladin notes. And it appears to have foliiage/fauna resembling other planets rather than what we see on Roshar. And the people are shorter and have round/caucasian eyes. So I'm wondering if there is something sort of supernaturally distinct about Shinovar, a kind of enclave that's cosmerically different from Roshar.

Cultivation says this to Taravangian after he ascends. I wonder if this a bit of a double entendre? WoB has reiterated a few times that Rayse never too any other shards because he knew it would change him and he wanted to stay Odium. But Taravangian isn't as sophisticated and isn't as ideologically attached to being Odium. And now Cultivation has leaked the location of Honor's power to Dalinar. Is it possible that she's trying instead to get Taravangian to take it up, effectively crippling/binding him the way that say Harmony is bound. Or if not bound restricted and controlled by his second shard?

The thing that is odd is that he says that "we didn't realize it." I assumed that cosmere savvy people understood that the mists were part of preservation. Regular scadrialians didn't but they didn't know about preservation at all. Also the mists long predate preservation's death.

I think that Shallan can hear her because of her heritage as the daughter of a herald. We also know that the unmade were influencing her family-it's possible that she has some sort of connection to BAM.

I think that book 5 will have BAM being freed and deadblades being restored and Adolin will become an edgedancer. As for the type of spren, Adolin is clearly being framed as having edgedancer personal characteristics. There's a bit at the beginning of ROW where Kaladin notes how much Adolin cares about people. His whole exercise with Maya involves him remembering those who were forgotten, listening to those who were ignored etc. Whether this is a precondition for what's happening with Maya or just setting him up to be an Edgedancer once she's restored, I do not know.

I don't think that there's a lot that we can infer about Shallan's oaths based on what we know about other radiants. For example she could cause Pattern to materialize as a shardblade before she's sworn the appropriate oath.

The reason that Taln (who Brandon says never broke) is back is that Chanarach died and got sent beck to Braize and gave into torture. In the released Stormlight 5 prologue, set around the time of Shallan's mother's death, we learn that a Herald died (Chanarach). She went to Braize and yielded to torture. This is Shallan's final truth, that she started the desolations by killing her mother. It is perfectly thematically consistent. Each of Shallan's truths has been an increasingly bad or consequential thing she did. The last one is going to be that when she offed her mom she started the desolation

It's pretty clear what us being set up is BAM being freed, the deadblades being restored and Adolin becoming an edgedancer.

Because Adolin is beloved of all three major characters so his death will have emotional impact. He's a goner.

My guess is that she can access the spiritual realm because she is the child of a herald.

But she didn't know that Pattern was a shardblade at the time, there would be no need for a fugue state or for her thoughts to trail off. The reason she trails off is that she can't acknowledge that *Pattern* was her shardblade. She had to get close because she couldn't attach to Pattern. When she thinks about *why* she couldn't attach to Pattern, she trails off because she refuses to consciously accept that Pattern is her shardblade until the end of the book (it would also obviously spoil the revelation of the series's most triumphant scene of the readers knew this in advance). To circle back to the original point, regardless of which blade she uses to open the gate I think that it's generally the case that what we're seeing with Shallan is not progressing the same way as with a normal radiant so we can't draw the same conclusions about her progression from her shards and abilities. Generally many of the other radiant orders have not shown the same kinds of effects and specific progressions as the windrunners (big triumphant boom, blade at third oath, etc). Nothing visible to the reader really happens when Lift says her two oaths. Lift makes a shardweapon in the chapter before her third oath. Dalinar uses the Stormfather to operate the gate before his third oath.

Where does she wonder about Pattern being in two places at once? At the time she didn't know that Pattern was her shardblade so she wouldn't have thought about it.

She wouldn't be able to open the gate with Testament-dead blades don't work. She needed a living blade.

For what it's worth I think that Shallan's progression is supposed to be roughly following Kaladin's, with her manifesting her second ideal/first truth (killed father) at the end of book one, third/ideal second truth at the end of book 2 (killed mother) and fourth ideal/third Truth at the end of book 3 (deadeyed Testament). She doesn't seem to really be gaining shards in the same way, possibly because of her past progression. She can use Pattern as a blade before her second truth.* * I know that there is some speculation that she is using Testament in WOR/WOK but during the transfer portal scene she calls for Pattern and he shows up immediately.