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Yeah, I do. This theory is really only half done at the minute. I should hopefully have it done this week, and then I'll be better able to dicuss it with you guys

Nohadon predates the Radiants. He wrote the Way of Kings, which the Radiants based their ideals off of. Whether he came up with the ideals himself, or simply told stories to explain preexisting oaths is unclear.

Well Chaos should be happy with that promotion

Hey Chromium Compounder, welcome to the forums! You should go post an introduction topic when you get a chance, so we can all say hi. Just thought I'd let you know that chromium doesn't give a boost to abilities, it makes metals vanish, like aluminum. I'd also like to add that you need to be touching someone for chromium and nicrosil to work.

Not quite. Elantris happens and Emperor's Soul not long after. Mistborn Trilogy happens centuries later and then Warbreaker a while (300 years?) after that. Then TWoK and Alloy happen about concurrently.

The relationship between Elantris and AonDor isn't very well understood by us right now. We originally thought that Elantris provided a simple boost in power to AonDor. Then at Alloy it was revealed that the Shaod is an effect of Elantris. So things aren't really clear right now.

Innate Soulcasting is a subset of Surgebinding. It's a Surge called Transformation, just like Kaladin can use the Surges of Gravity and Pressure. Fabrials that can be used to Soulcast and such may be the domain of Cultivation. We're not really sure how they fit into the puzzle just yet. We've seen one Shard's magic system grant powers from another Shard so I guess it's not impossible that fabrials are part of Cultivation's system.

Sounds awesome! I would like to announce that the Hoid article is finished! There are probably like 3x as many quotes as there should be, but Hoid is awesome.

I am so REDACTED tired. Also bad at Scadrial

If it's anywhere near as awesome as your Soulcaster, I can't wait to see it!

Nope it's the Shin.

Thanks Flash, I've seen that before and I understand what the two imply. I'm looking for that specific quote however. Joe tweeted at Peter who says it sounds right, so I think we're probably good. At least until we either find the original source or get confirmation one way or the other from Peter.

I'm in the process of working on the Hoid article but there's a certain fact that I can't find in its original form. At one point we heard from Brandon that Hoid has "metal that he shouldn’t have". Needless to say that this has some pretty big implications, and a citation for it would be really nice. But I can't find the quote anywhere! I've heard that it's something Brandon said directly or maybe wrote in a book, but I'm trying to figure out where precisely we got this news from. Anyone who could give me a bit of help here would receive my eternal gratitude.

We don't know exactly when it was ninch. If you saw it in the TES theories topic it was Chaos agreeing with my rough estimate of ~30 years.

Not a stupid question at all! We weren't sure ourselves until not too long ago. Hope this helps! Keep in mind that while parts of the wiki are absolutely awesome, other bits aren't yet up to snuff, particularly some of the Shard articles. We have no definitive proof of that first fact, and the second is our best guess.

Heh, I'm not sure that I'd be able to confine myself to one place. I'd probably end up wandering the planet studying the history, culture, and magic. Here's my best guess as to where I'd stay if I had to pick just one spot. Roshar - In Kharbranth, at the Palanaeum of course. I'd probably be an artifabrian. Scadrial - Elendel, maybe working with Ranette to design some more Hazekiller rounds. Got to get those Bloodmaker rounds working Nathis - I'd probably be more inclined to wander here, but I'd probably end up in Idris. Back country peacefulness appeals to me. Maybe spend some time as a monk, helping people Sel - I'd probably be at Elantris. Emperor's Soul Spoilers!

For just reading in general, paper books are where it's at, preferably hardcovers because I have a tendency to totally trash paperback by accident or over-reading.(Witness my paperback copies of Elantris, Warbreaker, and the Mistborn Trilogy D:) However, when quote chasing or wikiing, I prefer ebooks enormously. I can usually find a quote eventually in a paper book, and sometimes I have to read a book to find a quote, but 9 times out of 10 ebooks are far superior for that type of work.

Hey, my mom is awesome Also, lyssie's angry D:

I don't think that would be a problem. Everything in existence has a Cognitive aspect, from the goblet that Shallan spoke with to Sel's moon. The problem is that we aren't sure exactly how Shadesmar is structured. I doubt its arranged in the same way that the Physical Realm is.

Kar was the head Inquisitor. I think he might have replaced Bendal, who was killed by Kelsier, but their relative rank is never made clear. He convinces TLR to execute the High Prelan of the Canoton of Orthodoxy, Tevidin Tekial, (aka Vin's dad) and to make the Canton of Inquisition the head Canton of the Steel Ministry. He throws Vin in the jail cell and is planning on torturing her later. He's killed when Vin breaks into TLR's throne room and Marsh pulls out his linchpin spike.

Nope, Elantris takes place centuries before Mistborn. Brandon just confirmed this. The second Elantris book is supposed to be 10 years after the first, if I'm remembering right. We know that Emperor's Soul comes after Elantris, but not nearly as far after it as Mistborn.

I think it's an interesting idea, but I do see a few problems with it. For one, if the Forgery symbol really represents MaiPon, then I don't understand why everyone in the Rose Empire would be able to use it. They don't consider themselves to be MaiPon, they consider the MaiPon to be a part of the Empire. Another problem I see is that if the symbols really represented the political boundaries of the nations, then Aon Aon encompasses all of Duladel as well. In addition to that, shouldn't Duladel have had it's own magic? There was no mention of it. And why hasn't ChayShan vanished now that Jindo has become part of the Empire. Also there's the fact that no one from another race has ever become an Elantrian, despite how long they lived in Arelon. Surely some of those would have considered themselves citziens of Arelon, even if they weren't Aonic? People like Shuden, whose family lived there, who was born there, and who was actually a Lord of Arelon. And Teos don't get their own magic, even though they have their own nation. Some of these could be explained away by the changes being brief so the sense of belonging still remains, but Teod and Arelon have been separate for centuries.

This book was just jammed full of so much information that I don't even know where to begin. Lets see, here a few things that I noticed off the bat or were pointed out to me to try to get some discussion going. Shai is MaiPon, and there were utensils called MaiPon sticks in Elantris. Did Kiin pick the idea up from MaiPon or is it a remnant of the tie between the MaiPon and the Jindoeese. There's also a question of why their name contains Aon Mai, which represents Honor. Shai prays to the "Unknown God". One of the Shards? Why is he unknown now? Forgery requires organic inks, plants are okay but animals are better. Why? It smacks of Awakening to me. Ralkalest, the unForgeable metal is really interesting. It makes me wonder if it's the physical aspect of one of the Shards. Anthracite is the rock that burns that was in Elantris. Also interesting Explicitly defined Realms is awesome, along with the fact that they are "pagan superstition" "The setting mark finished every Soulstamp, indicating no more carving was to come. Shai had always fancied it to look like the shape of MaiPon, her homeland." Sounds like Aon Aon to me. Makes me wonder if the forms of ChayShan and the Dakhor bone twists also have maps. Anyone can use Forgery. How and why? The other magics seem to be pretty racially distinct. There is red smoke when something has a Soulseal applied to it. Similar to Nightblood's corrupted Breaths and the burning of eyes when someone is killed by s Shardblade? Linchpin stamps, sounds like Hemalurgy and may give a little more insight into why those are needed. MaiPon and Jindoeese are the same race. How did this separation occur? Shai's hunting Hoid now? Potential future member of the Seventeenth Shard? Bloodsealing requires a lot of the body focuses from Stormlight: bone, blood, hair, and nails are mentioned. The MaiPon also worshiped meteorites, calling them "the souls of broken gods". Reference to the Shards? Okay that's probably good for now. Then here's a couple of random theories and/or beliefs of my own. Hoid's Role: Hoid didn't really care about the Scepter of the Moon, what he cared about was Shai getting caught. He wanted her to remake the Emperor so that the Rose Empire would be reformed. It's the only power that could challenge the Wyrn and his Empire, so it's crucial that it survives. It makes me wonder if Hoid had a hand in setting up the assassination attempt as well. His precognition would have been helpful here. Timeline: I'm thinking that TES must be set a fair ways after Elantris, I'd say maybe around 30 years or so give or take a bit. The fact is that there is no real hint at these people in Elantris, Brandon seems to have added them in later. So there has to be a reasonable interim period of discovery and interaction here. The Derethi had no idea of this nation, but they've now known long enough to send an ambassador. I think adventurers like Kiin may have known and surely Teod did since they share a continent, but it's not like they would tell Fjorden, considering the iron curtain between the two nations. If I had a potential secret ally I'd keep it on the down-low. Souls of Broken Gods: This is really really awesome. It makes me wonder if the rocks that fell from the sky were Soulstone, ralkalest, or anthracite. I think that there's a significant chance that one or more of these things are the physical aspects of Devotion and Dominion. If their Splintering resulted in any physical Splinters, then those would have fallen from the sky, where the Shards seem to spend their time. I'm leaning towards Dominion as being one of them for sure, considering he used to be the god of rocks. I think that ralkalest is the least likely candidate considering it's a metal, and Brandon's done that before. The anthricite is a decent possibility but they don't seem related to any magic, and also I think they might burn up considering that they are burning rocks. Soulstone is used in magic, but again, I'm worried that the heat would have made it uncarvable. So who knows? I think it's probably one of these though. Bloodsealing: I did not expect two entirely new systems on Sel. At first I thought that Bloodsealing was simply a subset of Forgery. Howevery his appearance made me think differently, as well as the fact that he is never referred to as a Forger and Frava doesn't use him to study Shai's work. The seal gave me pause, but it doesn't work like any of Shai's Soulseals do. I think they must work differently. Forgery also doesn't require anything from the people it's used on, no blood or etc. Also Forgery is all about possibilities. And I'd say the possibility of a walking skeleton is zero, so it can't be Forgery at work. It seems really really similar to Awakening, so I can't wait to see more of it. All right, anything cool you guys noticed that I didn't? Or maybe you've got some thoughts on one of these points? I'm super excited to hear from everyone.

It was just so awesome. I can't even really describe how all the little things that Brandon put into it fit just right. Gaotona burning Shai's book was just so right. Forgery is one of my new favorite magic systems, the ability reinvent oneself for certain situations was so awesome. I enjoyed the Derethi priest Shai bumped into and when she was taking down the skeletals as Shaizan it was amazing. I also enjoyed the Reo Shai carved on the wall. All in all it was simply magnificent and I can't wait to really delve into all the things we found out here.