JohnnyKaizen

You post this like he doesn't have at least one more waiting behind the scenes

Fully agree

Look, she accidentally started a rebellion (I say accidentally because the rebellion she started wasn't really the one she was planning) that's leading to a strengthening of the Listeners. Is it her fault if she's more like Mr. Magoo than James Bond with her espionage? I mean, yes, but still.

Fair. I was mostly thinking the other day, "Uggggggh, why must we keep talking about him." And I guess you can't really ask a question about he who shall not be named, without talking about him. What I'm getting from all this is.. No, there will always be new fans who've just met Moash, and will feel all the feelings invoked by his few successes and many failures (which is the most legitimate thought about all this, that I hadn't really consciously considered. The Cosmere will certainly outlive us all, as will Moash). Also no, there will always be the group of fans who support Moash because they love him as a character and/or love to troll others with him, because of his character. Also also no, because his edgelordy-ness is so legendary that he'll never really die no matter what. Also also also no, because no punishment and/or redemption will ever be "enough." So, I'm going to either have to get used to his immortality, or ignore future Moash posts, or something. Because very clearly, he's not going anywhere even if he's exploded in a thousand anti-investiture bombs. So, I will resign myself to the inevitable and mentally adjust accordingly.

Moash is actually the Kandra. His real name is MoMoash.

Yeaaaaah, sadly that's my feeling as well.

Will that be enough that we can finally stop talking about him? Love him, hate him, or just want to argue about him forever and a day...if Brandon kills him off, will we finally (I suppose there would be discussion about his death at the time, I'll concede that) be able to stop talking about him? Or, 10-20 years from now, will people still be bringing up Moash to gauge other character's actions like people still invoke hitler (ie Well they're no Moash! At least they didn't blah blah blah or It's not the same thing when they do it because blah blah blah, etc)?

Jk, my favorite is The Lopen

Chiri Chiri 4 life.

Ishar is pioneering spren being in the CR form while in the PR (which is horrifying, but might paper over your first concern). And, if there is anyone in the Cosmere who can figure out human/spren procreation, it's Adolin Kholin. All I see are possibilities.

@alder24 You bring up a good point. Occam's razor would suggest that Nale's spren saw Ulim, immediately recognized him, and told Nale, "Ulim is right here in front of me. Clearly we should look into why he's on Roshar" because obvious reasons. The way Brandon wrot it, it certainly seems like Nale can just see him by default, and maybe he can. But, it wouldn't be the first time (and won't be the last) that Sanderson has used wordplay to hide something else (either simpler or more complicated) in plain sight. That, at the very least, makes my brain feel better. Thanks:)

Spren should be able to hide from humans if they want. And Ulim probably knew Nale before and after his Heraldization. Clearly Ulim has been able to hide from Heralds before, or he wouldn't have a reason to believe he can hide now? This has probably been covered somewhere, but I came across it recently and realize I don't know, so if anyone knows or there's a WoB out there I haven't read...what's up with that?

A++ way to go

Currently sitting here laughing waaaaay to much at this

Nah. Adolin lives, but ditches Shallan for Maya, and they make the first Human/Spren hybrid. They name her Evi.

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What? You don't buy all of your health supplements based of a razor thin connection between vitamins and Feruchemy? Come on nerd, all us cool kids are doing it. Plus I hear if you just recruit a few other people to the pyramid..I mean Feruchemy Club, then you'll make lots of money with little to no effort. Kind of like storing attributes in your metal minds. Seeeeee? It ALLLLLLL connects.

That's true, but the information is incomplete, and I am sure there are plenty of surgebinding surprises in store for the future. Based on what I've seen til now, Renarin's abilities are clearly OP to anyone elses. He can cancel out the plans of gods..It doesn't get much better than that. Now, if his dad or some other ally happens to become Honor, and Renarin and Co help them see the future clearly while Odium cannot..well that would be an Cosmere-changing power. That said, that's just one aspect of various powers, that have only been partially explained, at least to me. Maybe there is a lot on the coppermind I've not read, or in the arcanums? If so, I guess I'm uninformed. But if it's mostly going off of non-canon/WoB, then I'd really rather wait until it's officially down on the page to really decide what is "the best."

I don't feel like we know enough about them yet, for me to vote. I may after I read SA5, but probably not until 6 or 7.

With Brandon, I'm going to say that Moash's point of no return is once we've seen him enter the Beyond and not a second before that (and maybe not even then). I have written, at length, about how I would prefer Moash not have a redemption arc, but that it is absolutely possible. Dalinar has personally murdered 10s of thousands of people and/or made it happen and he's a bondsmith holding the splintered shard of Honor, and taravangian has probably directly (or indirectly) killed as many people (if not more) than Dalinar and he's ascended (not that that is redemption, just promotion). When it comes to Brandon, the only PoNR that I'd agree has occurred, is on-screen dead and gone to the Beyond...and with the end of RoW, even that is somewhat in doubt now. So it's an extremely hard sell for me to believe that there even is a PoNR for most characters (maybe not Hoid when it comes to his spiritweb or something similar that has some established rules to it), and that certainly includes Moash.

At the risk of sounding dumb, I have no idea what this 631 stuff is. I see from this meme that its popped up places, but this is the first i've ever heard of it.

ROdium definitely wanted to destroy as many (if not all) Shards as he could. I don't know if that is still a goal of TOdium or not, but if it is, he's going to have to get out of the Rosharan system to do it. If there was a way for Shards to make/train/create Shardkillers, then I don't think there would even be an Era 4, in that, that sounds like the Cosmere equivilant of full-scale nuclear war. And Sense we've already read canon stories from several hundred (and/or thousands) of years ahead of SA, I'm going to assume that's not where all this is going. Still, that was a lot of words to say, maybe TOdium still wants out of the Rosharan system and maybe he doesn't.

I haven't taken this in about 2 years. Back then, I was 1% more Windrunner than Truthwatcher, and everything else was at least 10% less or more. Today is a threeway tie between Willshaper, Lightweaver, and Windrunner (67%). Truthwatcher and Edgedancer came in at 63%. Willshaper, Lightweaver, and Edgedance weren't even close to the top the last time I took this. So, clearly I've had some pretty significant changes in that time. I guess I'll wait a year or two and see what happens then.