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Mid-Range Game 59: Alcatraz vs the Lens Destructors
JNV replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
So several things one sorry Conquestor honestly Ive been weridly wobbly this whole game two Im not currently capable of believing Archer/Kasimir is evil I can consider the idea just fine and see where it all lines up and stuff but I just cant believe in it partially cuase of friendhsip partially cause of the Wizard and The Unknown Novel vote stuff three I especially cant see Archer and Devotary together I just cant so yeah if thats not an option then Luckspren and if Im wrong then welp least I tried have to go now wont be on at rollover this is it for me I guess have fun see you in the aftermath- 249 replies
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JNV replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
So given your thought about three living evils who are they whats your theory who do you trust assuming your Lckspren thought is right where do you think we go from there justify your opinions and continued existence thanks Why Im just going to park my vote on Conquestor for now let that be that but honestly if you make a good case for why Luckspren would be paired with someone that isnt you Id be down to go to them their arguments in that poast above seem wobbly and theyve just been wobbly and such and I lost the nice long version of this post when loading in replies and its late and Im going to sleep but I cant get on tomorrow morning so I knda have to post it tonight good night feel free to argue against me while Im asleep Ill see you later- 249 replies
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JNV replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Youre misrepresenting my argument and youre misrepresenting Kasimirs arguments and if anything this seals my vote and that might be a bad thing cause bad logic doesnt mean evil but this is just a blatant attempt to sway me by playing off my trust in a village Archer/Kasimir not even anyting youve done I mean I was kinda waiting for Th eUnknown Novel to explain their opinions a little and they havent really interacted with my argument besides saying 'trust Kasimir' which is absurd also you have the result right you were added to PMs so surely you got their scan result Im trying to see if Luckspren not submitting one of those actions could be justified by a worthwhile lens action in the evil case or if it was just wobbles all around and honestly I kinda feel like people arent really engaging with my reasoning so much like do you understand why I want to know Lucksprens thing cause with Lucksprens vote right now its harder to see them paired and honestly I would have been willing to switch if The unknown Novel had made any attempt to defend themself beyond 'trust Kasimir' You do realise that if theyre village youre next on the chopping block right if you and them are good then whos evil in your worldview and whos their partner- 249 replies
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JNV replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
I cant understand a world where Fifth was a bus so Im tossing those three out of the pool and then the PM conversations I had with Kasimir about Fifth and with Fifth about Kasimir just dont feel like ploys and if that assumption and trust ends up being our downfall so be it so the pool shrinks a bit now let me go look at votes do some thinking @Elandera would someone who survived a kill through Windstormers Lens get 'attacked but survived' in the write up cause in the rule sit says 'cannot be targeted' but I cant think of anything else that would be 'attacked but survived' C1 vote count highlighted for knowledge Heres the thing right heres the thing we know for certain there was elim involvement in the Ashbringer vote and we know Fifth was soliciting more votes on there but why heres another thing at the time Conquestor voted it was a 4 way tie and they could have just sat there on Wizard but no they broke the tie and they broke it to kill Ashbringer thus saving the three othres who are Luckspren Droughtbringer and Wizard now Droughtbringer and Wizard are confirmed not evil Conqeustor says inactivity was one of the key motivators but didnt vote the actual inactive this isnt a formal accusation or anything just if Conquestor ends up evil Luckspren is also evil cause otherwise why switch Oh speaking of Luckspren @Archer whatd Luckspren do C1 cause that was like Kasimirs main case for village Luckspren apparently they seemed like a good action submitter person but with Fifth and Conqeustor as the teammates that case is a bit eh The only problem with this is if its Luckspren and Conquestor and Luckspren wasnt online then howd both a kill and a shatter come through I mean they could have put the kill in early and then Conquestor switched the shatter ok that makes sense cancel my complaint C2 vote count highlighted for knowldge The votes on Fifth by Joe and Devotary were completely unnecessary coming from evil and Fiftsh vote on The God King is also unnecessary on evil cause I have faith in them I consider Fifth a good enough sweet talker to make a case on someone else and honestly this bit of 'analysis' is just me jusrifying my pool of good The question that evil The Unknown Novel creates is whos their teammate I mean I guess it could be Luckspren dont feel like itd be Archer/Kasimir cause that sorta vote would doom them both Its outnumber so technically we can afford being wrong about my fundamental assumptions where we basically kill Conquestor Luckspren and The Unknown Novel not necessarily in that order but I dont know where wed go after that The Unknown Novel to start off with mostly cause their thought about a Conqeustor me team just seems weird to me and Id like a little elaboration on that but with Lucksprens current suspect pool might flip that to Conqestuor Luckspren team as official guess and go there later well see- 249 replies
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JNV replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Cnat change the past but keep it in mind for the future So about Wizard the world where theyre evil doesnt make sense to me and heres why So wizard and I started off with a paired set of Couriers Lenses we didnt chat much so I asked them to pass their lens to someone more active so itd go to good use they agreed then they got shattered I got told they got shattered cause 1 I got told my lens disconnected 2 our courier PM was said to be closed now there was a long moment there when I thought maybe they were evil trying to get out of passing the lens by shattering themself but then I thought about it and realised they could just pass the lens and shatter it next time and as evil it doesnt really make sense that theyd care enough cause Translators lens is kinda useless with the numver of PMs I made so shattering themslef is just a really weird move to make as evil and more likely to me is just theyre not evil and got shattered randomly in a tragic incident So looking at your C2 reads list your read on Wizard is 'possibly cautious new player possibly evil' like do you have no reevaluation on The Unknown Novel for example who you had no real read on and theyve talked a bit more now no reevaluation on Joe or Kasimir or Devotary no reevaluation on anyone at all really I wasnt on at all in the last six or seven hours of the cycle so no I wouldnt have seen Joes vote Of my pool of evil the ranking from most to least possibly evil goes something like The Unknown Novel Conquestor Steeldancer (?) Wizard right now with the question mark by Steeldnacer cause they arent around and honestly The unknown Novel is always just a black hole in my brain Im really tired right now Im going to sleep if you have questions ask me Ill answer in the morning probably bye bye night night dont let the mistwraiths bite- 249 replies
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JNV replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Bye Fifth may your afterlife be the wilderness of Montana with many trees and salmon and berries and no nightmares of bear college you were a good PM buddy even if you were evil and Im impressed that a bear became a librarian and to anyone whos not Fifth and doesnt understand what I just said its none of yoru business ..........................huh You really should have asked me before saying stuff like this Wizard I dont appreciate you airing our private things like this maybe just told me or something or at least asked this but yeah in case people didnt catch that Wizard had a courier lens they told me they were going to pass and apparently its shattered now so yeah They really arent Why are people saying all of this like this is not something you need to share first Conquestor now you why is everyone who has a secret with me suddenly spilling their guts whats going on Wizard I honestly want you dead right now and I cant tell if thats cause Im still a little annoyed at you or cause I find this move of yours suspicious or cause you have been a solid blob of nothing and I can kinda see what youre doing but gaaaaaaaaaaaaaah you couldve asked or you could have left me out of it or whatever honestly I do not have words to convey the wobbles in my head right now Theres 10 people alive 8 2 probably 3 cycles my pool of evil is Steeldancer Wizard The Unknown Novel Conquestor Steels about to wobble out of existence so kinda ingore him for now both Wizard and Conquestor have made... questionable choices when it comes to finormation sharing but being illogical doesnt mean evil and I cant help but think evil would be like any amount of careful about that sorta thing again my brain is full of wobbles so kinda confused honestly Ill be back in a bit when the brain is less wobbly @Elandera can the evil team target a librarian for shattering- 249 replies
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JNV replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Since there wasnt a tie or anything presumably the only other RNG thing was funny which is the trranslators lens so whoever got something funny off that good job you made it into the header What have I done thats even worthy of considering an effort clear like at most I did a long post where I waffled back and forth on opinions and made commentary about voting meta thats not really alignment indicative at all so no definitely dont clear me by effort when I havent put in much effort If your reasoning is either theyre trying to blend in or trying to save a teammate while also saying you odnt think Luckspren or Droubhtbringer are evil you eliminate the second possibility and think theyre trying to blend in by voting but if anything it invited more controversy and confusion on them and about them so what exactly do you think an elim in the vote pool on Ashbringer would be trying to accomplish by doing so I mean the fact that Im immediately tempted to discount them as evil is a sign it might have bene a good play for them as evil so you can focus on them and Ill turn my attention elsewhere and well find them all Whats dingogate I misread it as dinogate initially and wondered what dinosours were doing in sanderson worlds then reread Why would not wanting to vote on evil be evidence that Im good if anything thatd be the opposite D1 votes odnt always mean nothnig theyre ideally based on the accumulated evidence of the day and besides your reasoning for not voting is purely vanity or thats not hte right word purely wanting to be seen as good instead of wanting to solve the game which is a valid but wobbly philosphy People keep saying things like this and I odntk now what they mean what 'good post' C1 did I even have Why Honestly theyre contributing more than usual this game seem a lot more engaged and I dont really know what that means ...you said in the post that the post wasnt done not that those were your own personal notes I was refreshing the page every once and a while waiting for a finished bit Do you have any game opinions at all lkke in the slightest I might not be able to get online tomorrow so Ill vote eventually just let me do some thinking about the options cause honestly The unknown Novel seems different but I dont want to punish them for being morea ctive and engaged even if it ends up being a sign of evil cause like if you want to be more engaged good on you keep it up dont really want to say 'hey no any attmept to change will be met with a violent death' but at thte same time Wizard has done nothing like actually nothing so give me a bit and Ill come back- 249 replies
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JNV replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
So in essence ones own standards for changing the vote should be obscure and black box style uncertainty to others but perfectly clear to the self so people feel like they have to prove themselves but cant just push a button to get off scot free sorta thing and voting inactives just to vote inactives is less good and having clear easily met standards is less good and the only way to make people feel threatened is to be unpredictabale is that basically it Interesting how the single word sentence is kinda intimidating Ill be honest @Ashbringer you might want to vote so you dont die Now some quick RP trying to figure out why an OSHA person is in a place not america Cori retreated to a private corner in the archive, hiding behind stacks of books to compile their notes. Most of the conversation was frivolous and fun, a meeting of minds rather than a professional interrogation. They did not have true governmental authority in this land, so they did not feel comfortable controlling the conversation. Besides, establishing trust was better than control from the quick for information gathering. They had fled the Hushlands after the Librarians conquered it, not for their own safety, but because their services were no longer required. Despite their Evil, the Librarians were remarkably skilled at following health and safety protocol. The good of OSHA was needed elsewhere, and if they ever wanted to know of the technology the librarians were suppressing, they would need to usurp their power.- 249 replies
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This feels wobbly for some reason its lkie you say 'I thought' leaving room open for them tothink otherwise but then not considering that other opinion plus you could have askedi nstead of voted it feels strong for no reason like overstating The thing about the tie setup is its the sorta thing to lose effectiveness if you bring it up cause knowledge of the thought will mess with the data I think what youre trying to say is it has a big chance of being wrong which is true true true but is it better then voting someone actually at random though thats what you compare to thats baseline plus youre just a blackbox all the time you do things and I dont know why and the easiest way to look in a black box from the outside is to smash it so just like talk me through whats in your head and you wont get cced so much This is true but I think whats different about this tie is theres like one vote on each guy and its been like that and itll continue to be like that like if I were in that tie I woudlnt even care evil or not its not even about 'oh Im ok with the tie' its more like none of the votes here feel like they matter its all fluff and nonsense and wobbles and it doesnt feel threatening in any way Quick thing not attahced to quote what is your working definition of a contribution crusade mines when theres an active movement to vote out an inactive purely fro inactivity no other reason so this doesnt include poke voting or voting an inactive for any othe reason which is kinda why Matrims talk about the CC is kinda ringing odd for me at least like given my working definiton its practically always bad What exactly do you mean by falsep ostiive do you mean you often get villagers who are implicated by breakin gties yeah sure it does its not a first last and only metric its just something to keep in mind moving forward 'hey this person actively cares if this other person dies' its a data collection technique and yeah its better when the tie is a bit more organic in nature or at least the trains are and then you tie it at that and seee where it goes the problem is right now its just like one or two votes a guy no one feels threatened about one or two votes Why do you feel the neeed to demand reasoning with votes attached why cant you just ask if youre voting someone solely as a way to add oomph to your question which will be removed upon satisfaction its about as useful as a poke vote its like a trick knife at that point nots harp at all I mean if you catch an elim or if youre already in touch with the requisite two thats a pretty good reason to bring it forward but yeah keep things on the downlow I mean what are the downsides of leaving the tie as is in comparison to making it definitely one guy or orchestrating a tie when theres no preference unless its a game where ties kill no one plus maybe its not directly leading to killing an elim b ut its like that box chain puzzle it links things together Did you typo here or are you actually implying youd rather have less information Any of the people curently floating by without having too much attention while still being present Why are you unvoting also throw caution to the wind be bold make mistakes learn from them I mean Luckspren was on intiially then never showed up again vs Ashbringer who hadnt shown up at all at the time None of the people currently stuck in the vote are people I want dead or find suspicious in a significant capacity beyond normal levels from Matrim and The Unknown Novel who I always finkd a bit wobbly on all levels so Ill hold off throw a vote in if something happens that I dont want it to but honestly this post wasnt very productive just a bit of questions- 249 replies
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Hi hello also havent read alcatraz so dont really know what to do for RP so for now analysis and maybe by the end of the post Ill have a thought @Elandera when lenses get passed upon eath do all of them go to one person or is it random for each lens Couriers lens you get secret PM message that wont get looked at obviously use for sensitive information maybe pass around to plot and plan or just establish keywords and inside references to obscure the conversation Trakers lens in the name tracks peoples actions obviously nice but keep on downlow since the evils will smahs it if they know Translators lens the issue here is name are not used so people in PMs dont use names when PMing also obviously an evil tool cause spying on evil requires evil doc access Truthfinder lens roleblock find evil stop evil or be evil stop good matter of fact very smple Windstormers lens one use only immune to lens stuff means you cant get passed lenses though Voidstormers lens one use only steal lenses you know this whole game is kinda simple and obvious I odnt think you ned me giving you strategy tips its all fairly self evident plus theres no hidden stuff just remember only two sets of each lens max so claims of lenses can be verified with that worst case Ok now an attempt at RP and also an in character excuse to PM everyone but I dont expect in character responses or eve nin character openers cause again I dont know anything about Alcatraz so if you dont get a PM in the next half houir PM me Cori marched over to the formerly burning compound, holding their clipboard like a shield. A clear arson case, but the blueprints indicated several violations that contributed to the intensity of the burn, and OSHA waited for no one. It was difficult to get a read on the pile of ash and soot, so they went to the library, where the employees had been relocated to in the meantime. They would have all have to be interviewed individually.- 249 replies
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Thats what I mean honestly we made the right decision with the information we had but we didnt have the information we needed so we didnt have the chance and we talked ourselves out of every good option and Clanky stabbed us in the back it was very mean but were still friends right Clanky its a little frustrating honestly but what I really mean by never had a chance is that I thoguht we were friends Clanky you couldnt have waited a cycle you couldnt have done anything I thought we were friends and basically our chance at victory was founded on randomness and the generosity of people who are fundamentally opposed just because of action economy and time I forgive you and it might not be ok right now but it will be and I still consider you a friend just in a rough patch right now
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@_Stick_ you were right and I hate that we never had a chance and honestly I knda wish wed sacrificed me from the start now just because this annoys me @Clanky I really appreciate all your attempts to warn me but we didnt have enough and I dont think we would have unless everyone else held off on @Kasimir You were the best really and truly all the stars in the sky for you I really should have known as soon as it came out that there were three doves and they were infiltrated but I didnt and I think this is a lesson about trust This was fun this was great and the twists and turns of betrayal are fun and wobbly and sometimes sad and I thought this was neat and it was surprisingly well balanced considering and thanks Steeldancer for running the game it was really nice
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Hi guys factions are basically public at this point but even with that its fairly obvious what the next course of action is we gotta vote out the last elim cause they have to outnumber to win and outnumbering as one means everyone has to die theyre basically a serial killer now so Im taking an educated guess as to the identity but last revolutionary if you want to correct me on that just message me so this is a formal accusation against Archer youve kinda been slimy all game and now you want us all dead probbaly
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Welp agendas obviously coming into play here and heres my agenda I want your breath please and thank you Young Bard
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JNV replied to Elandera's topic in Sanderson Elimination
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Ni sucuyi gar kyradyc ni partayli gar darasuum Kasimir you were one of the good ones and Ill miss you have fun chilling in the afterlife Theres an extra kill somewhere so we have two main questions 1. whodunnit and 2. why now and not earlier Lifeleess would have been mentioned in the writeup so it has to be an ability of a secret role or a faction power unlocked now or in conditions of now and theres a minor question of which one was the infiltrator target and which one was the other target Now I really want to speculate but Im also really tired so Ill leave other people to ponder the questions cause Im going to sleep now bye bye
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Hi Im here one for the breath chance two for the public infiltrator so The Unknown Novel have fun with that now RP cause Ive kinda just forgotten to Kalomi offered their voice in a gesture of useless agreement, only further ensuring an already foregone conclusion out of greed and selfishness. They did not regret it. It was the best and only way to attain their goals, though in a small, pitiful part of their mind, they do wish everyone could have won together.
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...so that happened Why was Elandera even the redirection vote off Sart Elandera was only a thing in relation to xinoehp they had the one post before the flop which was asking why xinoehp of all people and trying to redirect to Ashbringer which makes me guess theiyre in xinoehps faction or something nothing significantly more wobbly than others xinoehps opener could actually have been thought of as suspicious why Elandera whyd everyone flop there was it panic was it the time crunch was it the sudden wave like seriously and the Sart vote was wobbly too if anything the people following their thoughts should ahve been suspicious not the other way around but I guess well see what they do with this extra bit of time Ok its late I ned to sleep but before that lets look at vote progression if I missed a vote sorry let me know Matrim votes Stick as a poke I think Stick votes Matrim in retaliation Kasimir votes xinoehp as a poke and non Stick Matrim alterantive Fifth votes Araris to get discussion Sart votes Matri for contradiction and discussion Araris votes Matrim for talking without saying much and being wrong about factions Kasimir votes Matrim Bard votes Matrim for Breath <Matrim claism faction here> Kasimir votes xinoehp Bard votes xinoehp Matrim votes xinoeph xinoehp votes Matrim for self preservation Elandera votes Ashbringer as a non xinoehp alternative Stick votes Sart for nonsensical weird post which I kinda chalked up to the RP voice but oh well kinda hmm honestly cause no comment on Matrim or xinoehp situation Luckspren votes Sart so their vote will "matter instead of being a pointless vote on Ashbringer" Archer votes Sart so Matrim will live which seems weird clear preference for xinoehp survival Matrim votes Sart xinoehp votes Sart for self preservation Kasimir votes Elandera <Sart claim here> Sart votes Elandera to live The Unknown NOvel votes Elandera to keep Sart alive Archer votes Elandera cause evil seemed fine with Sart dying which means theyre in a faction that actively cares about infiltrators being worse off Ashbringer votes Elandera to see spy and think about Mat xinoehp votes Elandera in case Sart can see evil Matrim votes Elandera but says "indifferent to the exe" which is kinda weird I think theyre going for Breath at that point Matrim votes Sart Elandera votes Sart to live Bard votes Sart cause they could fake Spy role as infiltrator easily There were just lots of trains for no reason piling on and off as different voices seemed suspicious and falling off as others seem more and nothing of substance really happened at all Ill have more thouhts in the morning Im tired though and might not be on so much tomorrow Im busy so talkj without me give me things to think about my brain is fried good night sleep tight dont let the mistwraiths bite
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Note to self about factions Hawks must kill Revolutionary Infiltrator plus any secret hostiles outnumber Doves keep Royals Doves must help one of the secret factions outnumber Hawks keep Royals Revolutionaries must kill royals Infiltrators must kill royals outnumber other Revolutionary infiltrator great synergy especially if already infiltrtaed hard to ally with secret factions cause hidden royals Hawks low to no synergy cause no trust with secrets and have to kill everything to a significant degree Doves limited synergy with secrets cause need one to win could try ot ally with everything I guess The only knwon faction thats really definitely anti infiltrator is Hawks and Dvoes areo nly kinda against in that they cant win together but they dont need total eradication and revolutionaries are great with them and the secrets are secret so who knows Its late Im tired so thoguths are all wobbly sorry Matrims thing about the infiltrators feels wobbly cause no we dont have a common goal thats the whole point infiltrators are only bad if youre a royalist and a large chunk wouldnt be also theres no reason why an ifniltrator doesnt want at least a little the goals for each the revolutionaries just have the same goal the hawks want to murder and the doves want to murder hawks which kinda goes agains tthe name but oh wel also the statement just sorta feels like obvious for the sake of saying it like of course the infiltrators have an ulterior motive theyre the eivls In hindsight everyone could have won if all the royals joined the revolutionaries and no one joined the royalists but that would probably be unbalanced and wobbly Im not going to read into the exact wording of the names but if theres a single person faction odds are that person is a royal cause royasl get first dibs so that kinda automatically opposes infiltrators plus if theyre a serial killer thats kinda hm number wise Im going to sleep no bad decisions at night wait for morning to make bad decisions see you to morrow have fun bye
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Question for @Steeldancer does the 'excluding the doves' bit from the hawk wincon mean that the Hawks have to keep the Doves alive also will you accpet close synonyms of commands or dos it have to be word for word what you have until sixth At least one of the unknown factions can win with Doves cause there has to be at least one nonhostlie faction so doesnt want to kill all royals so if youre a royal who doesnt like the hawks or doves try for that I guess and at least one of the unknown factions is hostile to revolutionary goal of killing all royals so wants royals alive might be same one might be different who knows also I guess you can try to think of it as a Royal v Killers v Other game with the royals in dispute of each other also so I guess Royal Succession War v Killers v Other as long as the Revolutionaries will work with the infiltrators which works for both of them honestly evil could infiltrate Revolutionaries then reveal and say 'hey were proposing an alliance of evil so we can all win together and kill the royals' Hi what does horsetrading mean thanks I think Im going to try PMing everyone just for fun so if I miss you and its been like an hour let me know Im probably just going to ask about your favorite food or something
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Hi hi hi I cna play probably Ill be... Kalomi
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HI hi hi am here sorry for not existing yesterday I was kinda dead and in a no internet zone sorry but also hmmph why vote me off so useless so wasteful Im not really mad abotu it being me Im mad people arent trying to do things because there is suspicion which damages our chances in fiture cycles so hmmph hmmph hmmph! This is psosibly the worst idea cause we wnat to 1. actually do useful things with our votes 2. max village money its not a free for all its a team game so why not actually help each other grrr this is like standard Archer weird plans blah balh blah but this one actually hurts us its a selfish idea that is kind of inherently suspicious cause its a strong case to not vote on you now so hmm but backburner hm cause you do this every time so also grrr Why do you care if you punch peopl in the face as you die its fine if people earn money off your death its fine if money flows its good for the econmy you know like usually when we vote you its cause theres a good reason and this whole strategy and the vote money system in general just encuorages a lack of cohesion in the votes which allowed elim led trains to floruish and grow and give them money and they dont care if you die vs if anyone not self voting dies so yeah its not really helpful Thats a good point there good job helpful person but hmm if everyone buy sin the person who wins could just... not buy it and save money and be protected by the thought that they would if that makes sense buyt honestly having a communal thing like this just leave sit open for evil to outbid by like one so a bit against a bit not so good lets just be corrupt senators and bribe people without public knowledge ok sound good? Just avoid bandwagson in general there good life advice and profit also its not like you could stop people from getting a ton of money like me Im getting like... eight? for just quoting people you cant stop people from quoting people plus Ive quoted like every play er post in the game so its not like I can be beat until someone quotes me then I quote them and back and forrth and back and forth and the thing is posting less but longer is better for the thing cause it means other people can only quote you once and you can quote them everyone so as a single poster Ive kinda got this in the bag hahaha this is a challenge beat me I dare you the claiming kind aworks I guess also money is basically public so if someone isnt tracking that then youve missed out I said this earlier but say you do that then youre just bidding against the entire elim team who are going to fight you for it with one up bids so then you have to spend lots of money anyway so its not really that helpful so Im against ok have a nice day You have this weird active investment in causing lots of murder and turmoil and poverty even after death like is this a concern should we be concerned for you assassination on detah row wow that s not such a great thing good question though nice to see thoughts goood thoughts Im really happy someone wont be floppy everyone else is kinda floppy also yes sus The Unknown Novel if you want we dont have much to go on ha we need money everyone needs money theres not too much evil could do with the money off current bandwagson so just eat the rich hahaha Just vote for someone else though theres like anotherp erson without a vote then I could vote on you without contributing to wealth hahah aso yeah if youd do that thatd be nice but you dont have to I always find you suspicious so honestly probably not voting you but maybe thats your strategy and hm Good thoughts good thoughts on assassination maybe I shouldnt have been quoting everyone so I dont get murdered oh well if I die I donate all my money to charity murder is good thoughts but also just consider how short the game will be anyway 7 2 5 2 3 2 win getting it at C3 is not early at all thats almost murder Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaah poke votes bane of my existence I guess theres incentive here cause money money money but I dont like them never have thin ktheir useless plus you didnt even ping ack the boxing thing is an asumption theyre doing the math based on the worst case so yeah also I just always suspect you so Im leaving you be so its ok its all fine grrrrrrrrr If that was tactical th en my like 18 hour late entrance was brilliant obviously good point good point on the bodyguard massclaim thing also the rules say nothing on boxing count so maybe who knows do you know do you have rich blood and extra boxings hm should we eat the rich id est you Oh wait failed bids still count I didnt know that hold up ok I looked in doc and in the post and I cant find where it says that was that a GM post I missed my bad could you point me where thanks in advance friendo friend really appreciate it oh yeah I forgot the assassin raised the money thing thats an issue yeah that might be hard hm why not just let things be though wait hold up is surviving by body guard nanoucned cause if so then that can be the claim if not then its not really important cause they didnt get attacked thouhts No such thing as obligatory poke vote grrrr this is the hill I die on poke votes arent helpful much like the self vote strategy in this game except I guess tangentially less grrrrr cause at least its ostensibly kinda well intended unlike the self vote which is just 'hmmph Im going to die well no one gets money cause hmmmmmmmph' so yeah also the stick vote is just a poke like what you are doing and see its not helpful its not good at all hmmph The robot does not love you or hate you the robot does not see you beyond words on a screen the robot dislikes you the robot despises you the robot ignores your words you could just use a word counter to check the words then go like ten over cause different counters count differently also why the village cred to Devotary doesnt everyone want money and also bad pun bad pun hmmph Hi hi hi make sure you read the rules thoroughly some things are game specific like the bribe thing Im sure youve already gotten corrected by a million people but just so I can profit off your question Im going to tell you everyones gotta pay three boxings or die which is the blackmail (thye used the wrong word) and since I hadnt posted I would avhe died and CC is contribution crusade which is when you just vote off inactive which kinda wouldnt appply here thats more of a term for 'this person hasnt psoted at all ever or doesnt contribute burn the witch' and wlcome pokes are EVIL You have a good point on the poke votes I might actulaly solidify Tani vote cause honsetly Matrim feeels like an ok person to give my moeny to at this time just let me finish responding to like everyoen in the gme to profit and win money hahah this is great cpaitalism for the win Honestly poke votes are hmmph and grr and I dont like them but to each their own to each their own its all good all fine all great thansks for helping out the nwebie youre a nice guy worth keepin garound a bit how has your day been do you like pasta whats your favorite number higher then 100 Wasnt a bad idea but just a weird assumptin and a weird thing to think unless you started with money every vote is pressure so yeah you appiled pressure thats how it works and also you didnt take the vote off so its not a poke anymore its just a selfish vote for money EVIL EVIL EVIL very suspicious hmmm honestly though htis could be the poke vote thing I really really really dont think theyre hepful and it makes me disgruntled and grrrr Did they ok yeah sure I guess people problaby already said this but no Archer flubbed up and flopped a bit with the wrods he didnt need to say the pretty words sorry abot the words Archer but ha to you good job Stick for actually consulting the rules about that good on you gold star Oh I didnt even see the open PMs bit sharp eyes good eyes the matrim thing is a bit hmm cause its obviously just 'hey fo all the people I can profit on this guy is the worst' you cant look for suspicious people without it being a cash grab nd highwya robbery? The plna itslef is not helpful but the players using it are just sorta meh I do like your agreement on the actino claiming thing thought but also its an easy line of reasoning to get out of claiming but bodyguard will take car eof itself I think might be wrong on that its not in the rules Shoujldnt you want people to make money on your death especially the early voter whos somewhat tinily less likely to be evil in my opinion cause money is good for village and its not like there going to get a ton of money out of it theres just not many people to get the vote money so its not a big deal also I said this down below cause you ninjad me but strong agree on Tani but mitigated by my own money hungry needs Hey! Meanie if its just for greed then why if it will change hten why its a useless vote that wont even get you money if it will change Im offended Im the scapegoat in your plans to conquer the world with propaganda and goats hmmph I deserve better than a placeholder Deevotary means that Matrim said nothing they want to respond to so thats hmm but its obviously motivated by money so I dont even consider it honestly considering going there a bit hmmm hmmm well since you voted Tani already I feel safe enough to go for vote=Devotary instead if the vote looks tied or wobbly at the end Ill go to Tani but yes I am a hypocrite money money money Just realised how annoying this post will be for like everyone involved sorry bout that but MONEY hahaha ok bye see you later
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Hi hi hi id like to play this it sounds cool um question will cpaitalisation matter for the vote also will the thing detect votes in edits also will the thing be able to understand typos in any way I do that a lot my bad sorry um let me test that actually vote=THE UNKNOWN NOVEL also what if two names have the same starting word like The unknown Novel and someone else who starts with 'the' what happens then edit ok so based on the 'player votes flagged' thing I think capitalisation matters so my bad I guess Ill try to be good on that now testing edited votes vote=The Unknown Novel see I can do capitals Im so good at this edit again ok so edited votes do nothing oh well that sucks i guess edited things do nothing in general then if it cant scrape votes it cant scrape the rest of it maybe possibly hm ok bye for now Ill be back later
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Mid-Range Game 58 - To Kill a Skyeel
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HOnestly no idea what to do or who to murder cause I could see it really for anyone so tentative very tentative ashs_eyes an dif through sheer chance I chose the one villager of three Ill be so mad honestly thats pretty standard for me heres hoping someone else will get on so the lifeor death of the game doesnt just ride on me -
Ill be honest Id prefer to vote for steeldancer I had that whole post and sorry Steeldancer that you couldnt understand it if you point to specific bits I can try to say it better but like seeing Elanderas reason for their vote on me just seems... weird? Like they say it was a poke vote trying to get me to do something but then they also say it was removed after no response then they also say there was no reason for the vote on Matrim after and... there kinda was? Like you have to infer it a bit but it came idrectly after a really weird vote by Matrim and was followed by Matrim acknowedgeing the vote as a chide for the bad vote so... Elandera for life and limb and a suspicion and raised eyebrows and stuff like I just dont get it and if you have time id appreciate a bit more thorough questioning Can anyone actally say whats been suspicious about me that hasnt been Stick doing weird stuff? Cause Sticks been doing weird stuff in relation to a lot of people and I dont appreciate being singled out like this Id love to actually do a post of substance but I really have to go Im being called away fro family game night and Im like legally not allowed to miss that so see you on the other side I guess bye
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