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I woke with a massive head ache, and there was a body lying next to me. There was strange looking creature standing over us. Around me it looked like a deep crevasse in the roughs. As my head cleared I asked the creature "Where am I?, and Who or what are your?" It said I am a Cryptic and you can call me Fractal. You are in the Chasms on the shattered plains. Then it asked me "whzy dos I feel az if you aren relatedz to Taldar mynz bond matez?" I looked at it and replied "I am not sure what the shattered plains are but where I am from I am considered an Identity mirror. It is kind of like being a living hemalugic spike except I copy personalities to my metalmind of people I come into contact with then I weave parts of that Identity into myself." I continued "You can call me quicksilver. I must have come in contact with this Taldar while he was alive and before his journey lead to this final destination" Out of nowhere I heard or felt something say your oath is accepted. Suddenly I felt an infusion of power and my headache vanished as well as many other minor pains. I also felt a flood of knowledge about what Taldar had known of these new abilities. I seemed to suddenly have as well, an understanding of who and what Fractal was. I filled the Pewter and Gold minds I had gained access to when I mirrored some other ferings Identities with the surge of power I felt. Once I gathered anything useful I looked at Fractal and said I guess we should get moving since I don't think we are safe down here. Then with pewter aided strength and filling Iron climbed to the plateau. Looking around I said to Fractal "where to from here?"

Sorry there were not RoW spoilers in this post and thanks for moving it I didn't think my next post had any spoilers in it, but the discussion later definitely started including spoilers.

Wouldn't the innate ability of the Fering or Misting provide for the shaping required? A full Mistborn or Feruchemist might only need their will to transform the stormlight to whatever purpose or metallic power?

Yes Taldain sand gets charged in RoW as part of the light experiments. The presence of spen over sand also charges it. You bring up an interesting idea that makes me wonder if metal arts might fuel related surges if not just fuel surges in general?

Can stormlight be used to fill a metal mind or fuel allomancy? Can burning metal or tapping a metal mind be used to fuel surges? If either is true can they be used to fuel other forms of investiture in the cosmere such as Chromatic Breaths or be fueled by other forms of Investiture? I saw it stated somewhere that Chromatic Breaths can fuel surges.

yeah I agree Rosharan's would have an initial advantage, but in the long run I suspect Scadrian's might have the advantage since it seems more likely that a Scadrian might bond a spren than a Rosharan might snap. Consider Wax adding else caller to his abilities. He could soul cast Aluminum capped metal projectiles and perhaps even add soul casting to his steel bubble with the attendant physical abilities of a Radiant. I still wonder if storm/void light might be able to charge a metal mind? If so Wayne would seem like a Gold Compounder and Wax would be the immovable object at will putting serious power behind his projectiles. Just a thought. The flip side could also be that Burning metal might provide a replacement for stormlight just like Chromatic breath is, meaning that a Kaladin who snapped if that is possible might be able to fuel his windrunner abilities by burning most alamantic metals. Still it seems more likely that a spren would bond a Scadrian than a Rosharan would Snap, but with Hemalurgy a Rosharan might be able to burn and or fill metal. On windrunners I can imagine Kaladin burning Tin for awareness and tap Zinc for mental quickness to react fast enough to use his lashings pushing and pulling small objects near him sent at him like Vin pushes and pulls coins. He already has the physical speed he just needs the reaction speed and awareness to touch coins pushed or pulled at him.

By the end of the contest Dalinar becomes Honor just like Teravangian became Odium. Then the conclusion of the Contest, since in becoming Honor Dalinar died, Odium, Cultivation, and Honor end with a consensus to straiten out the Cosmere and oppose Trell in Scadrial along side Harmony bringing to bear the power of surges to that battle in 2nd generation Roshar and third generation Scadrial. Dalinar leads the radiants and fused on this crusade against the Ghost Bloods and ultimately Trell.

Yeah but mine has more limits. And I am open to other forms of investiture just not as conversant with them. Besides with RoW we do have more details on Roshar.

I ran across a closed discussion on Mistborn vs Radiant from a few years ago yesterday and it got me thinking how a conflict between the two might resolve and in who's favor. In it they were comparing a Vin with a Kaladin both having ample means of investiture which in cosmere practicality would have to happen during a high storm with mist though that wasn't stated. So how would a contest shake out between a Skadrian and a Rosharan given that there is every possibility that if Odium wins the contest of champions Rosharan's could be sent out into the Cosmere to conquer or bring order. Radiants seem to operate like twinborns with 2 surges and a hybrid surge or compounding, but they are limited to 10 specific combinations where Scadrian twinborns have an Alamantic investiture and a Feruchemical Investiture combining to 256 different investitures including 16 that compound while the other the other 240 create an enhanced composite effect of the 2 investitures. That doesn't include the 2 God metals one of which would create a full Mistborn with a feruchemical compounding. For this discussion limit it to Twinborn vs Radient and the possibility of cross investiture such as a spren bonded Scadrian or hemolurgically enhanced Rosharan or some plausible Rosharan misting without Lerasium. Atium legal but only as a misting or fering though that might only be available on Scadrial in the mist since Harmony doesn't produce it anymore. To start with could an aluminum compound Twinborn be the ultimate immune to direct investiture attack Maybe even to the point that a shard blade doesn't sever the spirit but instead becomes a conduit to drain the Radiant's storm/void light? An aluminum gnat actively burning acting as a sink to any overt lashing like soul casting, gravity, adhesion, etc... Also with any hand held aluminum piercing weapon of any kind they might be able to drain the storm light from shard plate or sword and the radiant. The other thought I had was that windrunners could fire projectiles using reverse lashings on low mass objects in hand turning them into guided missiles at their opponents. Those dun spheres, chips, pebbles, would then make dangerous projectiles with multiple reverse lashes that would almost never miss their target. Or imagine a Rioter who bonded a cryptic or Soother who bonded a High Spren. Any Scadrian Twinborn who bonded a spren might be able to use storm/void light to invest their metal mind. I could see a Tin compounder bonded to any Spren having the physical skills to take full advantage of the awareness given by their Tin. It also seems to me that it would be easier for a Twinborn to bond a Spren than a Rosharan to develop metal arts giving Scadrian's an advantage in the long run in the contest and perhaps over other forms of investiture in the Cosmere. My guess is that upon initial contact the advantage goes to the Rosharan's, but in the long run the advantage goes to the Scadrian's. (I hope my spelling is ok since I listen to the books not actually read them so I spell them phonetically.)

Thanks Scout_Fox and Honorless for your help. I can be a bit dense sometimes.

Happy to Join. Started thinking that Shalon and Legion are afflicted with remarkably similar condition. They both create new personas for new skills needed for new and past challenges. So which is the schematic for the other?