Dreamwa1ker

The binding of nightmares feels very related to some things on Roshar. Painting them seems to make them be fixed into something else - it reminded me of how if you measure a flamespren it can't change anymore. If I draw a nightmare as something benign, and cognitively am fixing it that way - it can't become dangerous anymore. And we've seen with Shallan's drawings how art can put you close to the cognitive realm like when she is drawing the cryptics that are following her. Conversely, as others have mentioned, what Yumi does seems a good bit like soulcasting. Although everything seems to have two parts when you do it: could the two planets really be one that split in this same way - one giant spirit? Finally, the Fibonacci sequence kept on coming up - first with the soap, and later Hoid even lampshades something about you might have another name for this series of numbers. That and the Golden ratio show up in nature patterns a lot and are aesthetically pleasing so it fits with Virtuosity and the theming here. Maybe we'll get some nice fractals too.

You joke but this was basically my theory as well after reading. Either that or folks in Silverlight, he's teaching or something

I also am thinking Scadrial. The sarcastic comment Hoid makes about gods/religion that they worship, also made me think potentially of someone who follows Survivorism, since Hoid knows Kelsier and how that one started. So Marasi or Steris perhaps?

I just started listening to this one and it's after Brandon's announcement this week: (announcement spoilers)

Long shot but would be cool: What if Book 4 character is Ishar on Ashyn, and this was written as like his diary or lab notes (he seemed to be some sort of Realmatic Scholar perhaps since the other Heralds seem to think he knew a lot about the mechanics of everything?) Along the same lines I loved your idea on the episode about one of the 5 Scholars

Ooh I can just imagine that. It could fit the tone too if there's pirates and an old-timey map showing sea monsters and stuff - "here there be monsters"

There is another detail- there is another kingdom called "Dormancy", that is where the princess is from. All these names (Verdant, Dormancy) are kind of descriptors/characteristics. Almost like Shard names to be honest. I wonder how they will relate to the magic.

Yay. I enjoy the theorizing and fan community predictions almost as much as reading books, so reading the samples just extends my enjoyment.

I had the same question about the water cycle. Can you imagine how terrifying a thunderstorm would be? It mentioned getting water from a well on the island, so there is water underground. Maybe there is an entirely underground water cycle instead of an atmospheric one. The one tree was in the duke's grounds and the other methods of agriculture sounds very much like transplants not native to this place, so could all be irrigation from underground.

I think he did make some comment that these worlds in these projects will be more alien like Roshar vs the Earth analogs of some of our other Cosmere worlds. So it would be really fascinating if there are life forms that can live in the spores, meaning they either have some sort of high level of salt or silver in them or they are water-less lifeforms (which would be wild). Or, will the oceans be lifeless and instead there are inland seas or something? They did mention they had wells on the island that got underground water - could there be fish living down there? Will water only be underground though, like does it ever rain? A thunderstorm would be terrifying in a different way than on Roshar.

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Odium + Cultivation = Malignance or Virulence. Storming terrifying. And might happen on screen...

After watching episode 8, full books spoilers:

Episode 4 was the best so far for me! It had scenes that were different from the books but felt very true to the books and did a lot of heavy lifting in lore and world-building that is true to the books in a condensed amount of time. And Nynaeve (my favorite character from the books) continues to be awesome. I love her actress.

@Jofwu thank you for saying this, it really reflects my feelings as well and I was feeling a bit alone. Show is not perfect but I really am enjoying it and am not upset over most changes. It feels like LotR to me where there are changes but the overall tone and characters are there. On the Dragonmount forums where I've been a member since before the book series finished, I was getting pretty frustrated at several threads turning into "let's trash the show" with a bunch of comments making it seem like folks think anyone who actually *liked* the first few episodes must not have really been a true book fan or understood the series, lots of saying they don't believe the showrunner (an avowed fan) read the series at all. Also complaints about the show being too "feminist" or performing best with women in their 20s as if that proved it wasn't popular with book readers. So as someone who has read the series several times but likes the show so far I was feeling a bit marginalized as if people have an idea of who is allowed to be a fan (and it's not me). Anyone can be a fan, and our various opinions and interpretations are what make forums fun! Anyway, thanks Sharders for keeping the discourse much more friendly! <3

That would be beautiful for Kaladin's story arc. I love it

Lan and Nynaeve. Though I also really liked where Mat and Tuon was developing, but we needed more time for them - unfortunately we won't ever get their spinoff books but I am so curious to think about what their relationship would have been like a couple years after the end of the series.

I got what you are saying and I just wanted to say I LOVE this idea. And I'm wondering if the other orders might also follow a similar pattern. Especially since folks have already pointed out the pattern of how the 3rd ideal generally seems to involve you taking the order's main directive further and expanding it in a way that is HARD for your natural inclination and requires moral strength and growth (protect even those you hate, listen to those who have been ignored even if you disagree, taking responsibility for what you have done) and that really fits "strength before weakness".

Loved this episode because I love Kaladin, but I was surprised there was no discussion on "Son of Tanavast/Child of Tanavast". This is the one big mystery hook I feel like we still have for Kaladin, he is the only one referred to specifically in this way by the Stormfather.

It gets even better. The cougar-ish noblewomen in the scene are coming onto Rand, he escapes by going to talk to Thom and: Rand: All they wanted to talk about was their husbands being away Thom: *chokes on drink* Rand: you shouldn't gulp your drink so fast I missed it the first time, but lol'd on this reread. There's so much humor off of characters being a little oblivious or naive.

I also love Shallan.

Odium is also the God of Passion and Hatred. So couldn't it also simply be Odium exacting said hatred on Lezian for screwing up his plan to break/turn Kaladin in the moment when he was so close to succeeding?

Does becoming a cognitive shadow or ascending count as "die"? "Zahel" might if his arc with "Azure" happens. In some way he finds his purpose and something miraculous would happen in that moment. I'm also gonna say the Stormfather, there is a lot of foreshadowing I think and now we have a way to kill spren. Moash. Szeth, I think this will finish his arc. If Brandon wants a gut-punch, I could see Lopen going out sacrificing himself, with a trademark smile/wink/joke at the same time. Kaladin I think might become a cognitive shadow - there's got to be a reason he had the Zahel conversation in RoW. And I note how he lines up with the order of the Herald that Moash took out. If there's a temporary Oathpact refresh to cover the gap between front and back 5, Kaladin would be the one to step into Jezrien's place. Either that or "son of Tanavast" picks up Honor. Crempost: Gavilar dies in the prologue again. Though maybe he becomes a cognitive shadow this time ;-)

Ok the night of sorrows/great flood theory on this other thread made me think of this one: Kingdom of Water