Illwei
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you and your X-shots smh
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So mindmeld here, which means... *counts on fingers* you're an elim this time? :P. Honestly I went through trying to figure out what made me feel off, but the more I read it the more the things that didn't make sense made sense and it was just me misunderstanding so ?? I think Striker's phrasing or tone just always feels off in some way? :P. I completely agree with this, and was also getting these vibes last cycle. I'd also like to look at people who aren't Archer and Striker this cycle, because it seems that a number of people have latched onto them for some reason, when I agree here actually that going after them makes less sense, because they have 50% less chance of being an Elim than the other people. They technically are two people who we know for sure will die, but that doesn't feel like a good reason tbh :P. Someone else I think said something like this ^^ but I wanted to add to that: Striker often dies early, though usually to the vote, someone could have wanted to try and see him like through a game again :P. Wait now I'm confused too. TUO wasn't there for QF 49, right??? he joined in...He joined in QF50. Archer was in that, right? but he wasn't an Elim in that. But yeah right now I'm thinking I don't want to kill either one of them, basically because I don't want to end up getting caught killing them both and then being at C4 with no info basically because we spent the last cycles killing off the Elims NK Targets Like Does no one realize how that's just... ??? because there's less chance that they are elims than basically anyone else ??
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Quinn/Illwei stuff??? Quinn am I missing something because I thought we were good? We're just talking? because not many other people are?
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I assume it's because I usually get the more votes, Quinn But I do end up usually surviving through though :P.
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please no ;-;
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haha, no that was it :P. bold of you to assume I'm trying to be useful
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lmao, that's my reasoning, not yours. I'm saying that you said the reasoning was invalid, and therefore are a hypocrite in using it. I'm not saying I think the reasoning can't be applied, I'm saying it's a double standard for you to apply it. Hey actions last cycle, vibes. not getting specifics from me as I don't have them. Right, this is something I was going to mention but is irrelevant. I'm not saying that they're definitely not v/e or e/v. I'm saying they're not e/e. they can totally be e/e2 but there's absolutely no connection there if they are, it's about as meaningful as me saying that they could be e/v, which they can. they just can't be e/e. Talk about purposefully misunderstanding. Quinn, take a step back and please stop trying to find flaws in everything I say. Maybe you're paranoid of me, who knows, but this feels like you trying to find flaws in all my arguments on purpose. Because you're going to, as someone who usually focuses on the higher posters :P. I'm not going to just completely ignore the less posters
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Welp nothing I can do to fight it if you won't listen to reason :P. So you think he's an Elim based on my interactions with him, and then him being protected somehow last night? were you not the one who mentioned this type of reasoning being strange and invalid for killink STINK, and here you are using it. Like Matrim v Illwei in LG73, the normal decision here would be to kill Me, not Archer, and then work off of that. Regardless, I think some things he said yesterday came off a bit to overeager to try and get village points. Mostly him over-emphasizing wanting people to not talk about Elim strats. Also Archer/Gears potentially feels e/e depending, seeing as he commented saying that Gears sounded like he was signalling, voted gears, then removed it, saying it was for no reason realy. he then ends up on Striker, for no real reason. And Striker/Archer can't be e/e though. Otherwise Liranil is in my trusts and I'm not sure what to think about Pizza. He's been voting on himself, but he's new, but theoretically voting yourself or someone who isn't going to die is a good way to potentially avoid killing other Elims. But I guess that only applies if something happens to show them switch to defend a mistborn
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inb4 Archer and Striker are both opposing teams Mistborns
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Hey Ash, then vote Archer! I don't get this. you obviously have a problem here, and you don't think STINK should die. Well people die D1, and if you're not going to vote your opinions, then your opinions effectively mean nothing I really don't mean to sound rude here. I don't, and I apologize if this comes off that way, which it probably will, because it kinda sounds that way to me :P. EDIT: Liranil gets to be my first village read
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what there is no train on Striker
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ikr smh
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please :P. oh! oh! I know this one! uh....there aren't any! :P.
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What’s gonna be on the bingo card? I figure Illwei v Quinn in the thread will be the free space in the middle? ooh
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The theory i dismissed was [4]: I didn't dismiss theory 1, I just didn't see a need to comment on it, like I didn't see a need for you to comment on my theory. If you saw a dismissal it was that you counter proposing the team I suggested, a team that relied on you being evil for me, without you, made no sense. This second theory, the one I said "was irrational" was irrational. because I saw no reason for you to be realistically thinking that unless you were trying to spin it away from you/Stink. 1) Not a good reason for a vote at all and all it does in the long run is create more frustration. that's not a village thing to do. because I can't defend on that, and I've gotten killed for that because there is nothing for me to defend against, but somehow people getting frustrated at me is reason enough. 2) I'm not misinterpreting, and I think we've come to an understanding, which is nice. it doesn't null my STINK/Quinn team thoughts, but I understand your Illwei/Archer thing being you thinking I'm trying to direct discussion away from him, when he has 4 votes on him? is that right? that was the main point, but again, I didn't want to get into this. Because, as I said, it feels to me like you're exaggerating and antagonizing my arguments. Whether you are trying to or not /shrug I'll figure that out later, but me being frustrated at you for not understanding me is not a reason to vote you, and not a reason for you to vote me. uh. no. This is like LG73: People thought I was defending Matrim, and therefore tried to kill me for it. Meanwhile Matrim was alive and well, and village. If I'm going for a purely informational kill then Stink is who I'd kill, as Quinn's alignment is based off of that, not the other way around. Quinn could be evil or not, but the whole theory I had was that STINK was the Mistborn, and it revolved around that.
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Look I'm not going to try and thunderdome you this game, nor do I want to die d1. I'm going to address this and then move on. I did not dismiss your argument/statement. but since you think I did, I'll go back and actually try to respond to what you said. [1] I never said that you were trying to convince me. I Proposed STINK/you e/e, with the potential addition of Archer. You took that and spun it to STINK/Archer e/e with you not there. that sets it up for you to be potentially able to try and direct the vote onto Archer if STINK ever flips Mistborn. [2] I too, was just stating a thought :P. I was not trying to convince anyone, or even argue with anyone this yet. You and I seem to always get into shouting matches and I didn't want to do that. I get you're trying to engage with the thread and I'm the easiest to do that with, but it never actually goes anywhere good, and a gut read on me isn't enough to start that wallpost battle with :P. [3] Coming back to this later [5] references my response to [4], in which I told you that you're making no sense now. I was dismissing a single sentence as irrational, because it was :P. I made a theory about STINK/Quinn/Archer, then you immediately spin that into STINK/Archer, and then right after that turn it into Archer/Illwei. That 1) Makes no sense, just....at all. I didn't vote or interact with Archer at all to make you think that, and I even offered him up as a target, which you took. if he was my Mistborn I wouldn't have done that, and if I was the Mistborn then I wouldn't know he was my teammate. So what you did was try to turn all the suspicion off of you right there, and put it onto me and Archer, without giving any real reasoning, whether it made sense or not. So I dismissed one thing. and it was irrational. It only makes sense from the perspective of an Elim trying to get people off their back. [1] Right, were...were you not the person telling me that there was still ways to catch them? this was the point that I made before and you told me It was basically invalid, no? :P. [2] I've already talked about meta, and I say again to you, why are you using my meta when you are one of the people who argue so adamantly against using yours? I have not exaggerated or taken anything you've said out of context. I've barely replied to you. So I don't see how you think this is Elim-y of me. - Illwei throws out theory of STINK/Quinn/Archer team - Quinn says she thinks STINK/Archer team - Illwei Asks why - Quinn gives reasoning, and then modifies her guess to Illwei/Archer - Illwei thinks it is dumb that Quinn thinks Illwei/Archer because that makes no sense :P. - Quinn thinks Illwei is catastophizing everything she says ?? I don't see it, and I don't see how Matrim sees it. Even in this I'm trying not to, because I don't want to get in a big argument with you right now. I don't think you're an Elim yet, I threw out a guess at a team for fun, but the fact that you took it personally and then decided to vote on me for it is just ???? I'm now responding because apparently I was antagonizing your arguments and not responding to them simultaneously, according to you :P. You voting on me is not an Elim gut read of me, or meta. it's me suggesting suspicion of you, and you not liking that :P. Again, huh? Again, an offhand e/e read doesn't mean I think either of you are Elims rn, it means that if you flip Elim I'm more inclined to think that STINK is as well. you could also very well be village, and STINK could also very well be an Elim without you.
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Tani/STINK e/e but only if Tani flips first
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Okay yeah now you're just making no sense
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Yeah no you're not convincing me here. I'm not saying I believe it, but Mistborn!STINK Most likely = Elim!Quinn, nothing rn on Archer. This feels like you trying to deflect what's going to happen if STINK flips Mistborn
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Then explain why because that makes no sense :P.
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Sounds legit, I buy it.
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What a bizzare thought: if you vote on someone they might actually end up having more people on them than the person you're not voting on :P. That Awkward moment when you go to collect the VC and someone's already done it ;-; -- so Quinn votes STINK, Archer then votes Quinn for "pocketing", and then Removes it after Quinn votes him. Wild theory here: Quinn votes for her Mistborn, STINK, with no reasoning. Archer votes her for barely any reasoning afterwards, so if so, something said in Quinn's posts at least will try to signal to other Elims on her team. The Quinn read relies on Stink being a mistborn, and the Archer read isn't fully there just a perhaps because of his interactions with Quinn. Now to get out of this hole before I keep digging and turn it into a tunnel
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Also if you can spell gnrongadog right then you're definitely evil, just saying.
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STINK x Quinn x Archer Elim team number one case solved Illwei's done for the day EDIT: The thread is silent as elims tremble in the face of my god-tier reads
