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hmmm fair. just recalled that ruin and odium bypass vessel shield protection. speaking of braize, i think its a good idea for ruin to destroy braize if they are village. why though? autonomy would prioritize investing to create avatars and if theyre investing, then they do not have action slot to steal investiture. which brings me to my next point, you did mention the importance to being wary of autonomys SD, but any reason why you arent increasing your charges of investiture?
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why? i mean i know autonomy cannot win with the village but autonomy does not have to play anti-village either. because honest question, ask yourself, in a hypothetical (or real? :P) scenario in which you are autonomy, and you get your hands on some sort of kill mechanism, and there is no one who suspects you to be autonomy, do you kill someone you believe to be village or do you kill someone you believe to be of the other two factions? i suspect the answer to be the latter (not only because of your village loving tendency, but also because the other factions have outnumber wincon). okay im going down a rabbit hole i do not want to go sigh point is a little diminished as elims do not have guaranteed kills but agreed in that you cannot control if elims get their hands on odium/ruin. concede this point as well. unless... you dont want to win via SD xD and want to prolong the game. but thats a reach, i concede the point. no bro, the thing is, i DONNO the differenceeee. like you said you said you'd play the certain way and you are, but thats not village indicative though as it could be construed as village or (in my case) autonomy. the differentiation is what im trying to figure out. and i didn't say anything about this.i think it's a fairly reasonable way of trying to genuinely read me. but again, i dont know if it's v!kas who is trying to read me or a!kas. your argument is a!kas does not have an incentive to try to read players and just coast through the game especially when players have given the free pass to do so, i understand. now i have to figure out if your argument is genuine and if the free pass is enough to deter a frustrated kas from getting involved in the game even if he does not belong to the village (keeping in mind that autonomy does need to solve the game a bit as if all deaths are villagers, one of the other two factions win).
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im not saying youre in your evil meta. im reading you a bit differently, more similar to your lg86 thief game. there are parallels im seeing. in very simple terms - starting off chill and unbothered but then slowly getting involved in the game. id argue that autonomy faction is more neutral than evil when compared to other factions. autonomy can actually solve the game if theyre interested as irrespective of faction of the players getting eliminated, the numbers are decreasing and as long as they are creating avatars they are on their way to completing their wincon. no disadvantage of playing pro-village game. i think your play is somewhat in line with this. im not saying elims would go to braize either. just warning villagers to be vary of our investiture charge count. i read your conclusion about more v!fifth credences as related to the events depicted in the write-up so i was curious about the connection.
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its not unfounded smh. what better way to throw us off the trail than claiming that autonomy is "stalking" you? and its the way youve repeated that stalking thing like 4-5 times iirc, seems sorta performative, i feel like theres something there >> personal opinion, but i dont think any villager should spend 3 charges to kill a player, considering autonomys sudden death wincon. why?
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Does that mean you're evil-reading Araris currently? Also, this is paranoia speaking but also gut-read, miiildly suspicious that Autonomy!Kas has been hoodwinking all of us >>
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pretty solid v-read on Araris, courtesy of my gut-reaction on their Szeth vote. i think e!araris tends to move votes and i do think he ends up on one of the main wagons more often than not. agreed that returned mechanism is meddling with how i want to read it. without it, probably leaning evil. agreed that e!fifth fights more, but e!fifth also uses village appeasement techniques like the one we witnessed.
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just going through posts and having only pure gut reads without delving deeper - gut evil reads from - archer, mat, szeth, fifth not sure why im getting gut evil read on fellas voting on turtle. have no opinion on turtle themselves. most evil gut read - mat
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sigh guys expect same level of activity as my previous 2-3 games, really thought i'd be more free after may but work keeps piling up >>
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aaaa i was on phone and misread their post, thought they intended to target drake the following turn, not that they already did.
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See all this could be actually true and still you could be evil, it's an explanation of why you said what you said, not village alignment indicative. The reason why I'm voting for you is because I think, even if the reasons are true, it came from a malicious intent and not a good one. Edit - on my phone but the previous Alpha post gives me very much LG94 Alpha vibes.
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[OOC: Gonna turn off Al Speak here for a second, I have spoken/mentioned by frustration about the game personally to Kas, and I do think there are definitely ways to show healthy contribution to village victory even by spending less time on the game making less than 5 posts per cycle IF players care about victory. And I do think even if they feel at times demotivated, they owe it to other other villagers who have put the effort to do so. There is a big difference between DGAF thread energy and minimal but important strong thread contribution.] If we rely on meta-analysis every time, it just means we're forcing players into playstyles and never really give them a chance to try out something new. Kas is long overdue a chill game imo, and we're good players here, we can figure out if Kas is evil without having to ask Kas to change is playstyle. And besides, if Kas is village, I'm sure he can show it without going all-in on his usual analysis style. watchya mean?
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al had fully agreed and had noticed the same during the last night. he felt archy had attached tess for the ushual 'elims think like they dont prioritize pms' excuse and then backed off because he realised tess was right in the sense that pms are not a village priority this game cos of docs. archer change: i don buy archys 'forgot this game had docs' story. like cmonnnn this is a shard game, shardworld docs are one of the mosht important part/easy to remember part of the game
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sorry kasbro, was super busy today. al looks around and finds himself back in silverlight. huh when had that happened. oh well no matter. twas time for another adventure. hed long since given up autonomy and was now just plain ol al. he looked at the shards in containment and dismissed them. meh. he just wanted to chill. holding autonomy was not troubling but this new found freedom unburdened from the intent of shards, he liked it. kinda like just getting out of a relashunship and finding you love being single. ah. that freedom.
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The other way around but yeah, pre-determined pinch-hitter.
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You know, Stick and Alpha could probably sign up as one slot. Stick could play till her game starts and then Alpha could sub in. Just an idea
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Still so weird to see red next to my name smh >> Good game village! Alas, we never really got going. Nonetheless it was fun to play evil for the first time with Devo and JNV, and sorry for messing up the last cycle. Really should have self-pressed -.-'' Thanks Kas, twas fun, my activity was low but I did mention I'd be busy, ideally I would have a liked to spend a lot more time on this game.
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Nope you're falsely representing my actions. I mentioned it last cycle itself that I had a gut-feeling that JNV could have been a bus as you and xino knew about the scan result beforehand.
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Fletcher sat clueless, still no idea about the identities of the Yuelish among them. In reality though, he couldn’t care much. He wasn’t Yuelish, but wasn’t really Discovery either. They’d treated him well of course, but his loyalties died a long time ago. The day they broke their oaths. And the day he’d gathered his first artefact. The day they now called Aharietiam. He still remembered it like it was yesterday. Despite being cosmere-aware, other worlds really did not interest him. Unlike other worldhoppers, he truly enjoyed and cherished Roshar. He would have liked nothing more than to return home. But alas, it’d have to wait. He had to finish his job here first.
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Fletcher was listening to his recordings again, wandering eyes cautious and paranoid. There were so few of them left now and he just wanted to hunt of the one artefact which had eluded him till now. He kept telling himself to wait and that it would turn up sooner rather than later but more he delayed the more he regretted staying. He was about to turn off the recorder and head in for the night when he heard something he had missed initially. He paused, rewound the device and listened carefully. It seemed that the Yuen, Jiang had suspected Mallard during the first hour. All his other entries were not that important, he had not mentioned suspicion on anyone else. So then why, Fletcher had asked himself, was the final accusation on Gaovaris? He started to believe more in his theory that Jiang and Gaovaris had faked the enmity between them. When sure that Gaovaris was not under any sort of pressure, Jiang probably made a very light-hearted accusation. Fletcher was confused. What exactly was Georg's idea? Georg's reasoning for believing the scholar was of the Empire? It did not fill Fletcher with confidence that Gaovaris was using Georg's read of them as their defence. Refutable too, since they did not have the Yuen team composition and Fletcher felt like he would not put it past a team with high risk appetite to pull it off. "Hey, scholar! What is your case against Kipling?" he called out, intent clear to figure out the scholar even further.
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I was thinking Fifth would have been more likely to be a teammate of Devo, so I would have voted for him if Devo was evil, but now I'm leaning towards JNV bus, re: the second scenario from my post last cycle. So, I'll be voting for TKN this cycle. And @The Known Novel, it's really not that uncommon to distance D1. It's become more popular in the recent few games. And with anon voting and not really much pressure on you, it was really not risky as much as you claim it was.
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Oh huh, when I looked at 4 votes I was suspicious because 4 votes in anon-voting is uncommon, especially without any in-thread suspicion. So I was beginning to suspect a bus. Though... did TKN and Xino know about the scan result? If so, then if they are JNV's teammates then they would have forced to go along with it and bus them. Which would in-turn make Devo's vote weird because - hold on This is assuming TKN and Xino knew about the scan result - If Devo is evil -> JNV, Devo, [third member] ; Here third member likely not to be Xino or TKN because e!Devo clearly makes an attempt to protect JNV and if one of Xino or TKN were evil, they'd have informed e!Devo to join in the bus as well. If at least one of TKN or Xino are evil then -> JNV, TKN, [third member] OR JNV, Xino, [third member] OR JNV, TKN, Xino ; Here the third member is not Devo, for the same reason I mentioned above Important to note that in the latter case, if one is evil in TKN/Xino, it's not likely to be Xino because of JNV's vote on them.
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Did any of you guys have a PM with JNV? Did you hint that you guys suspected them? That would confirm it for me because it would lead to them voting together to protect JNV. Devotary Also, JNV claimed they won the bid for a scan C1 right? It wouldn't have been a lie [unless it was won by their teammates] because there would be a counter-claim. Did they reveal who they claimed to have scanned? Their choice could reveal some information, I like to delve into IKYK situations.
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Reads - Leaning village -> Archer, Alpha, Devotary Too much RP did not read [basically neutral] -> JNV, TKN, Xino, Hoid Leaning evil -> Fifth I'm on leave tomorrow, so I strive to get more than the one SP I've been getting each cycle ;-; And to actually sit and read RP posts.
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Fletcher had definitely not seen Left (or Right?)'s intention to accuse Randen. And he believed unless there was another potential member of the Yuen in trouble, then Yuen!Left/Right would not double up to stand out as one of the accusers. He tried to remember if there were any obvious suspected party in trouble in the first hour but none came to his mind. He recalled Randen voting on Krow but that's it. Perhaps he wasn't paying attention, but unless Left or Right are teamed up together with Krow, he was willing to believe Left/Right were village for now. Especially if they accused Randen after Fletcher had stated it publicly he would do so. (tldr - leaning mild village on Devotary) "If someone else was heavily accused in the first hour, could any of you inform me?" he yelled at the crowd. He remembered another important thing from his travels far and wide. "If the group of suspected party is quite small, then the guilty party always hides by making singular mild accusations. We need to look at players trying to fit in." (In games with small number of players, elims usually vote in side-trains in the initial cycles. I had no idea how to phrase as RP, that's the best I could do :P) Also @Fifth Scholar here because I'm confused why he's narrowing his choices to only players in the main train. He pondered over the remaining suspects and he wasn't really sure whom he suspected. He was busy the other day and had missed all the discussion about accusations. Of course he had a device to record all the talks in his vicinity. He would go over those later and make a decision, hopefully before the end of the hour. However, he did suspect the people who were accusing Left and Right this cycle. It would be very easy for the Yuen to stay out of the spotlight in the first hour and then accuse someone who voted to kill the removed party. Kas, I've greyed out the non-RP bits for you. Anything particular in PMs or just gut? Reading this as village, pretty solid logic and nothing nefarious in this, especially since he's backtracking from e!Alpha. I don't believe it's the same as his distancing from Mat in the last game, different situations. Mat and Archer were already under pressure at the point and discussing with Wiz to vote on on a teammate would be a very unnecessary bus. I'm inclined to agree with the read as well, though perhaps not as strongly as Archer as I was not privy to the discussion.
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Hmmm leaning mild evil for this. You know my situation was the same last game and yet I was on point about you and sorta less on point about Mat in D1, and Alpha in the later stages of last game. Sure, my presence in terms of volume might not be much, but I can still read players well on my good days. I do concede that since the game discussion would mostly be in the form of RP, I might fare less well than last game but still I don't like that you reduced my contribution to games solely based on the volume of content/presence.
