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  1. |TJ|
    >> yes my bad Elandera just clarified that. Someone targeted me and it got used up before I could pass it.
  2. |TJ|
    Okay, I'm so annoyed. I started the game with a Pallid Mask. And I was passing it to Kas last night but it failed because someone stole it off me. If we get to know that the Mask ends up in the hands on an elim at a later stage of the game, we know there is an evil Thief in the game.
  3. |TJ|
    Hmm, I missed that Fae's Thief claim initially. And I think that does it for me, that's enough for me to read her as village for now.
  4. |TJ|
    This is hilarious during re-reading because while catching up I don't actually feel the time lapse and whereas I was village-reading her, your reads were jumping to and fro from post to post and I'm like "huh, what am I missing" xD Okay I think I missed this part. What does the "making the same claim as teammate" part refer to?
  5. |TJ|
    I said I would not hesitate to C1 you when I was an elim to hopefully come off as village, so there's no evidence I would actually C1 you :P. But no one actually strongly argues against a protect or pursuing it aggressively. They just said it's their guess. I think one of the elim techniques is to act like they're guessing what happened when they know what happened to come off as "accurate villager" and doing so in a non-TMI way. Not sure if I recall I've done this as an elim, but I've definitely remember doing this as a villager in that anonymous Hemalurgist game. LG..70 something, though the intention here was to let the village know what actually happened by faking a guess without revealing that I was a Hemalurgist. I think you're talking like you're imagining they're your potential teammate. If I was a teammate of a new player who did all this and got village-read for it, I'd laughing and encouraging them to keep it up xD So it all comes down to elim team composition. If they're getting village read and aren't endangering their teammates, teammates could be like "what's the harm?". Just at this point where TKN's frustrations at everyone on focusing on Mat D1, the annoyance feels genuine. Ah no, the asterisk is for the whole post. As in "reads of everyone may change upon Aman's ISO re-read". I've been village reading Devo since that post I quoted in D1. Edit - Ahhh got it. Yeah it slipped my mind too that protects are retaliatory. And if your point is that it probably slipped Mat's mind too and that an elim would be more mindful of the ret. kill which points to v!Mat, then we're in agreement, yeah.
  6. |TJ|
    Combination of a chain of thought along with the fact that I don't have many suspects. I suspect Archer, Ash voted to protect him. Plus Ash feels like he's in the Dingo meta. And combine that with lack of other suspects - Null Minus on Araris, Sart. Null/ IDK on Alvron, Alpha, JNV, Fae (I hear your argument about teammates allowing/not allowing but tbh, most of the time, new elim players don't send posts to be proof-read and coaching is rare as well). Null Plus on Mat, TKN, Steel (Sorry, I cannot confidentally read low-activity players' meta like you do). Mild/Moderate plus on Illwei, deTess. Strong plus - Kas, Devotary. * * - conditioned to change upon re-read of Aman's ISO. Why is it odd though? You went insane and there was no kill, so I think the most normal reaction would be to assume you had been hit. No kill + most common insanity mech being taking a hit = Kas has been hit.
  7. |TJ|
    Ah you asked about it, I forgot. That was just mis-worded from me as a result of sleepy-typing. I meant "good read" as in "village points" for players who also reached independent conclusion that Ash and Archer could have been teamed. In terms of reads Kas > Illwei >> Mat. Still unsure about Mat, but would lean mild village at this point. Edit in response to Kas' edit : Still one of my top suspects. I'd be voting for him if there are no takers for Archer. Still believe they could be teamed.
  8. |TJ|
    Hmm, a bit more suspicious of Sart and how he was bang-on accurate about the kill being blocked by White Fox. And also, who was it who said the elim kill submission depends on the role and a lot other factors? I think it was Araris, not sure if I read it more suspicious or less, seeing as that was accurate as well.
  9. |TJ|
    From EoD1 - Ash/Mat unlikely to be E/E. Ash/Archer likely to be e/e. From N1 - Why did the Wrath of Shades counter increase? It only increase when blood is drawn and does not include execution? D2 - Kas went insane - a. ForbiddenIdolPossessing!Kas b. SpellbookUsing!Kas c. Unlucky!Horrified!Kas d. Survivor!Kas At this point it's more or less a theoretical strategy. I don't think it's ever been pulled off since I began playing. I like that Mat, Kas and Illwei also concur on Ash/Archer team. Good reads on them (Hi Wei!). Sigh, I'm taking like 20 minutes to go through a page and it's 3am and I want to sleep >> Imprtant, bringing back to D1 for a second, I don't agree with someone (Kas?) who said Fae is likely to be village for self voting. I think the most fundamental point of mafia is to vote out evil players and even the most beginner of beginners would have a clue that we vote players we suspect. I think it was posturing. At the part where Devo claims White Fox, Amanuensis. Since protect blocks also cause Insanity, it is more likely Devo blocked Aman's kill on Kas and the protect was not involved in... any sort of protection :P. Everyone bringing up LG83 as proof of no kill, guys remember the kills stacked in that game so we had incentive for not killing D1. The stacked kills could then be doubled with Duralumin. We only did it that game because of the game mechanics. I think Aman/Ash/Archer team still works. I wonder if Elandera is trolling is by teaming up them with Araris for an all A team. Also perhaps there is a misconception that I suspected deTess more than I did. The point I mentioned was just a tiny suspicion which I stated in the post itself. It probably felt I suspect her more because of the spotlight on it as a result of the ensuing conversation about the issue with Kas and his repeated asks about the difference between her and Aman. And I'm off to bed, bye.
  10. |TJ|
    Sorry, just been only glancing through things as I'm yet to catch up with EoD1. I haven't been informed of any sort of hit on me. Weekends should be more free and expect me to catch up before the end of the cycle.
  11. |TJ|
    I remember I was evil with a very dgaf e!Steel though I can't, for the life in me, remember anything else about the game. Including the game number or my other teammate. Mat was the GM I think and I had vote manip and did not use it when votes were close to fake the village. That's all I remember from the game. Also this is purely gut, but I think Mat's posts (particularly P4, P5) have been exuding abnormal coolness. I avoided using 'fake calmness' here because I don't know if it's village Mat just calming himself down or evil Mat forcing the coolness.
  12. |TJ|
    I'll clarify. Aman's wordings felt like he didn't really care about who benefitted more from VitC, and well it felt like he didn't care about the entire VitC discussion. Just said "whoever uses it better, it's more helpful to them" and wanted to move on from it. There was some sort of village nonchalance to it. Whereas deTess took a roundabout route to basically conclude "it's helpful to both", looked like wanting to appear helpful. And I see some long posts are there for me to catch up.
  13. |TJ|
    Nah, it's my theory that I (or anyone else tbh) carry over residual suspicion from recently concluded good evil games. Villagers subconsciously extra wary of players who had a good evil game recently so I assumed that was the case here and thought it was an evil read. Aman's wordings comes off as general speak whereas deTess goes into hypotheticals. Aman's post imo doesn't feel like fence-sitting, it's just matter-of-fact "whoever uses the mechanism better benefits from it the most". deTess explores situations - "Helps evil players, but if villagers do this, it's harmful to evil players" and concludes that it helps both which is an obvious point. "Helps whoever uses it better" VERSUS "Helps both" is the distinction. Village points for this, because they're right. Unless someone is doing some reverse-pocketing and/or it's endgame stage, the function of VitC can be replicated by a final minute vote-shift. And there's no reason why a villager should prefer VitC to it, other than the circumstances I have mentioned above.
  14. |TJ|
    This strong wording, the pre-emptive suspicion of any particular action, feels e!Archer indicative. I think I recall him doing something similar in a game in which he was evil. Like the edit added any clarity xD I'm so confused, because I just read this as "I was wrestling with a weak evil lean of you so I cannot extend you any evil credit for not wanting to lean into the evil lean" which is ????? xD but I'm just assuming this was you just going back and forth "I need to be wary of TJ" "But TJ bro, TJ good" "But TJ bro != TJ good" Oh huh, that makes a lot more sense xD I was just thinking how that cute fluffy on-fours Jigglypuff translated to an evil read, my bad xD Also, the stronger good guy looks like Raichu! :P. [Looks like I'll be making Pokemon references and comparisons all game now] Feel tiiiiiny bit off about this post. Two legs in two different boats kinda feel. We've only played like half game together, so I could be reading into this wrong and it's just the way they Rule Analyse things. Also villagers tend to underestimate village coordination whereas elims always fear of it so they overestimate it. This awareness of village coordination might be an indication of evil. One to keep an eye out for.
  15. |TJ|
    Brother, unless I get sucked into the game big time and ignore by irl responsibilities, I'm gonna be appearing like a rare Pokemon in this game. I had some time before getting sucked into work for the day and just remembered someone mentioning e!Mat's tell as p-aggressiveness and felt it was important to mention it. Also, pure gut from this post - Archer
  16. |TJ|
    Hmmmm, can't recall if mildly passive aggressive Mat is e!Mat indicative...
  17. |TJ|
    derpclear, here I come xD
  18. |TJ|
    I'll be super busy till the end of May and would have very limited activity but sign me up as Prey.
  19. |TJ|
    Ah, GG lads. had fun doing evil stuff with you, nice cozy comfy elim team on the inside and "let's all kill each other" on the outside xD Villagers, thanks for a good match, and hope all new players keep returning to next games. @Matrim's Dice and @StrikerEZ, thanks for a peaceful game.
  20. |TJ|
    No, but I just re-read out PM to see if I missed something and he had hinted that he hadn't found Huio in N1. After I revealed I was Rushu (shortly before I revealed to the thread), he said something along the lines of okay " just need to find Cord and Huio" so whoever he scanned N1 is not Huio and not JNV.
  21. |TJ|
    Ugh, I know. I hate the dilemma of voting where vote-analysis takes you versus voting on suspicion of posts (Alpha). What are your thoughts on Alpha?
  22. |TJ|
    Bah, okay I feel like the elims are just letting us kill ourselves. D1 - Important movements include Wiz from Ashbringer to Alpha. Reasons for v!Wiz to do this is to facilitate the tie like he said. Reasons for e!Wiz to do this is only if Ashbringer is evil. If Wiz and Ashbringer are teammates, I think Wiz here goes for a more risky but more less suspicious choice of tie to increase Ashbringer's survive and not vote on other possible. An addition to this case, iirc, Araris hadn't yet voted on me, so that vote on me could be from another possible teammate to increase of Ash and Araris' chance of winning, which could also explain why e!Wiz could not change from e!Ash to e!Araris. In this case, Araris/Ash/Wiz team is likely. The logic only works in this direction e!Ash leading to e!Wiz could possibly lead to e!Araris. If we start with e!Wiz, we diminish are chances because as I said, actions of Wiz could be justified as that of a villager wanting a tie. v!Wiz leads to possibly e!Alpha maybe? And v!RB!Ash -> e!CS!JNV + some other team member D2 - Further emphases that Alpha and Wiz are not e/e. Hints on JNV and Ash protecting Alpha from elimination. D3 - Okay this is another instance of JNV and Ashbringer voting together to protect Alpha from leading the elimination. From D1 - Ash/Wiz/Araris Alpha/JNV/? [2 member e!Cord, e!Huio team?] D2 - JNV/Ash/Alpha D3 - JNV/Ash/Alpha Not gonna lie, even though JNV/Ash/Alpha appear more times here, I'm really more suspicious of the D1 team of Ash/Wiz/Araris. I think JNV Ash scenarios arose because of their PMs maybe? And I think Ash has somehow pocketed JNV here, feels very similar to Pyro pocketing me in LG66, going as far as to allow kills on his teammates go unstopped. Allowing the Cord kill to go through not knowing the target is mild comparatively. Either way, Ash is the key to solving this and my gut has been telling me to flip him since D2. Possibility of chain of teammates exist with mostly him in the team, and no one else appears as much. Ashbringer
  23. |TJ|
    @Cord, if you're village I advise extreme caution. If there are three elims, you mis-shoot and we lose. If Cord is evil, then it's likely 2-5 and we have D4 as LyLo.
  24. |TJ|
    Work has really kept me from a re-read, sigh. @Ashbringer, 1. Kas asked me for a PM with you. 2. I made a PM with Araris, figuring I could solve his slot better after we played together as village in the endgame last game. @Araris Valerian should be able to confirm. I'm going to vote here on Alpha, I really think they've been suspicious in their posting and I dislike them voting alongside Araris last cycle to voting with him to retracting the vote on the slightest push back.
  25. |TJ|
    I think the time to flip Ash has gone past and the correct cycle to flip Ash was the last one. D3 is either the LyLo or quite close to one to flip a player in order to get distro guesses or connections.
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