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A few minutes later, they were all in the boat again, floating away from the island they had just fought on. Back towards home. Maddy didn't really know what the future held, but it likely had something to do with a criminal trial and shopping. She looked back at Cadenza and Aryanna and suppressed a smile.
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The only thing about Order is though Apparently they're active in their Warder PM. And clearly active enough to come when tagged. So it's not like they're not paying attention.
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...Yeah no. And not just because I know that would be killing a villager in addition to the other two. Any possibility that could result in vil suicide is a bad idea
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I don't know TJ might be a troll I don't know But I have to consider all the possibilities But I also decided that Connie was vil And you saying you're sus of me in turn makes me skeptical aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa The endgame of games are always fun. yep. Yeah ok if that doesn't solve it the elims deserve to win @The Unknown Order vote Connie @Condensation vote order Uhhhhh @TJ Shade vc?
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Very much depends on the definition of 'new player'. Sure, Order has a reason to be not NKd, but James is still an experienced mafia player and I would have no qualms about killing vil!him, especially this late. Not true. If it's a 2 elim game with literally anyone else it works. James-Connie. James-Order. Situations with me that aren't true but technically possible and technically winnable. Kill one today, kill one tomorrow. But it also rests on not causing a tie. If we kill just you and you flip vil, it goes to 3-1. Not a loss. Which is why I want to kill just one person. But I don't want to pursue you or Gears, I want to pursue Connie/James maybe Order. The point about Order dying/James losing manip is valid. And important. It's just... I really don't think it is. If we all-in and lose, then the game is over at a loss. If we don't all in, kill one person, failure will result in a next cycle with a smaller number of possibilities. You should get that considering you find the only possible team to be a one person team. If this is the case all-in is a bad idea compared to biding time. Drawing it out and thinning the pile is the best thing we can do outside of shooting the one person we think is evil. And honestly, I believe Connie won't outright lie in an SE game. Order. I don't understand why y'all changed your minds about the unlikeliness of a WGG anyway. My vote for the outcome of the cycle would be killing just Order.
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(Btw I wrote this before Gears posted. I was just gonna edit it into my post if no one did before.) @Gears @Breaker @James Brafin @Condensation @The Unknown Order Right now, there are 6 people alive. That means we are either at 4-2 or 5-1. Either one is possible. We've discussed this. If we're at 4-2, this cycle is exlo. As such, we should assume it is because assuming it's not would likely be foolhardy. We are at exlo, then. Meaning we have have have to exe an elim today. What is the worst possible idea during this situation? Forming a tie with an unknown-aligned manniper still in the game. I don't care how villagery James seems, his alignment is not confirmed. I don't need you to believe it. I don't want to believe it. But I do need everyone in this game to ask themselves: Is this possible? Because the answer is yes. And the slimmest chance of the situation where we tie with Order and Connie, James saves Connie while killing me or Breaker for the win, however unlikely that is, the chance of it occurring is existent. And that makes me not even want to consider a tie. Hmm. That would work, but it would require a few things. Namely, Order actually getting online. Which would be nice. If not, Breaker is gonna have to unvote Order and vote Connie. Let's see... assuming Order doesn't show up, the count would have to be Condensation (3): Matrim's Dice, Gears, Breaker The Unknown Order (2): James Brafin, Condensation I mean the meta is quite strong here Like I have no reason to believe that Except I do because ermmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I like Gears' plan. The count should be that, it would work, all would go well. Right? Man we're being played so hard right now. I don't even know. Whatever Black Ajah member is still alive... you're doing a very good job. Illwei's probably yelling at me lol
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It’s too much of an unknown for me. Why do you trust James so much anyway? He hasn’t been attacked at all despite having a powerful role and being well trusted for a reason I can’t say. He hasn’t... well, caught much. As Illwei put it he really started coasting. I can’t let the tie happen. Like- too risky this late game when it has to do with a clear for only a half reason.
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Nah nah this is what I’m worried about Like a James-Connie team. And like we’ll try to tie it an he’ll just manip away to win. Think about it, why’d they kill Devo over James? James has been significantly more trusted. I change my mind. Tying it is a baaaad idea. Just kill Connie, only Connie.
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A tie then? Or is that too risky now that it’s this close. No, a tie makes sense. Connie
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Why one of them? Like- James, why didn’t you tie it? You had enough time.
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0_o
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You do it if you want a tie
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I don’t think the tie is a good idea But whatever
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Honestly, I'd rather not tie. I'm nearly certain one of them is village- I've said before about not believing there's an Black Ajah Aes Sedai and Warder, just two of the former or one of the latter- so I'd rather kill just Archer and see how that goes.
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SpoilerI posted this last night... or tried to. Technology is great, you know.
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Yes. Thanks. @TJ Shade, can we get a vote count?
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Sure thing: First, James suggested this: And you said this: T'which James noticed this [Middle part cut out]: And I agree it's noteworthy. I do want to delve more into your vote history though., as maybe a second opinion of sorts. Though I dunno how helpful that will be considering you were voting with/for Gears No need. Maybe I don't perfectly understand, but I hope I get it
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Ah. Thank you Gears, never mind then! You are good!
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Do you mean you protected him, or you just don't want him to be? You always can take back the order. Because if he is the person leading the exe you protecting him would basically be game-throwing. Aight, so... it basically is just what James said. Your line of the likely accidental slip- which I'll also point out that you had been steadily replying to James right up until he accused you of that- makes me weirded out. In addition, I've mentioned before your sliding-under-the-radar, which I had initially brushed off as village when I recalled something I learned my first game here when I made the same mistake- late game, the people with no notable substance should be put under mild elim as opposed to mild village. Furthermore, Archer has seemingly linked himself to you with reads list that correlate everyone else out. He throws shade on Warders, Greys- basically everyone except you. And then adds as an afterthought- 'oh, there are points against Breaker'. If I'm recalling that correctly. I do distinctly remember noticing some connection between you two, don't shrek me in the case I'm overstating things Finally, I've said before I think we're either facing a single Warder or two Aes Sedai. The remaining Warders don't make any sense. Order has been largely inactive, Connie and I were attacked (WGG is still always possible but also still always at the bottom of the priority list) and Gears was pushing Dannex hard enough it was suicidal for elim. Leaving the Aes Sedai. The Greys are clearish for the mean time, and the only others are you two. I'm sticking with Archer because... he has more raw reasoning against him and I don't want to try to turn the crowd. But I wouldn't mind a tie between Breaker and Archer to hopefully win in one swoop :D. Gears- again. Don't protect Breaker out of some 'oath' or 'promise' weirdness. He is suspect and protecting him for a semi-OOG reason isn't smart.
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I will in about half an hour :thumbs-up:
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I’ll take a spec doc
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*shrug* Reads change. Last cycle I didn’t have much of a reason voting anyone. You I had little to nothing, good or bad, which by itself is sort of a red flag. Flying under the radar. Plus, team DontKillDannex doesn’t mean much anyway. Striker was that as well. I was, and still voted him. It’s a decently common strat to include correct village reads as an elim for cred. Also, most of the dead people reading you as village also doesn’t mean much. They’re dead :). And a good number were evil. This cycle has given me enough that I’ve changed my read on you from a default village because I had nothing to a mild evil because everyone else has better things. Plus you not being attacked, plus the things James mentioned. (Again, I’d be a-ok tying/exeing just Breaker)
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Yeah but... still The elims’ kill pattern makes no sense and I don’t understand. Heyyy people if we all come to agreement I’d almost rather kill Breaker first. Or tie between them again
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Don’t worry. Wasn’t planning on it The point on Breaker is very valid though. Why haven’t they been killed? They’re a very important track role that would be bad for the elims. Unless they are one.
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...I don't think it's widely viewed as a poor argument. I think it's widely viewed as a good argument. But idk. While you're here, who did you scan, and what?
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