Mat

Uhh it was elimish from his first post but then he went and had to explain himself reasonably and nothing felt off (though I admittedly don't remember them all too well) in his following posts. I still have him marked as slight elim but Null is probably more appropriate.

If I were to elim read Illwei right now it wouldn't be because of the chaos/claim/copypasta, any of that, it'd be her reads list. Most of the village reads are listed as village because of reasons I wouldn't say is a reason to read someone village- including the read of me- and we're normally on a pretty similar wavelength, so... That being said I agree with most of your reads. Just not the reason for them.

Well, since it was a copypasta that's mostly irrelevant, and me saying that was mostly an offhand comment that once the fact that it's a copypasta was revealed also became irrelevant. But yeah both the original claim and the second part is part of the copypasta.

Told you :P. But at that point it was too late to do anything else. I'd have to reread D1 to get an actual impression on the Pyro voters but I don't want to It's so long... but looking at the names, Kas is village because claim, I read Szeth as village despite their elimmy vote, Stick's vote is NAI iirc, and Illwei is... Illwei. So I got nothing. Can I have that Steel PM, Mr. Postman? I will bribe you RP to come later, probably.

Do I get to RAFO here? I mean, it's not meant to be straight-out malicious, they just have work and are pretty sure he can fend for himself just fine cause he's 17 and this is a pretty normal thing for them to do. But you're also not wrong in that it's kind of crazy for them to do that anyway :P.

Araris

>> I see now, I really shouldn't say that when I don't voice my specific reasons all the time either huh So I guess instead of complaining that there's no reason I should ask what they are? That's the intent behind that, is to ask what they are but I phrased it bad :P.

What does that mean? I honestly don't know :P. Hahahaha this is 100% me not paying attention. Tbh I wasn't updating my vote count and just saw a bunch of people sussing Steel and a few red Steels (which apparently didn't ever cross paths) and assumed there was a train without actually checking. I mean, my thought still stands; I think voting Steel out today would be bad, but still :P. What's that have to do with anything :P. Ash is my most village read and I think I mentioned that somewhere earlier? Maybe I imagined posting that idk but here's a read that we share :P. No, I felt Illwei was so obviously fake.... :P. This but a slight vil instead of null (vil both for my previous reason and the quick train itself) It's called a gut read, hi they're my favorite For Steel it's just a gut read, for Pyro it's the 6 GM PM question thing (an elim would have put it in a doc and it didn't read like a lie to me at all) coupled, again, with the sudden train with nearly no resistance. But also gut because gut. Lol this is switching from my second strongest village read to my strongest village read

Why? I village read you for your first vote post but I don't like thissss there's no reason to exe Pyro. Has anyone even stated a reason? How is that better :P.

*Inserts every argument for a D1 exe ever* I see I'm continuing my trend of elim reading you always, alright stand by... The thought crossed my mind Kasimir This train is bad and the Steel train is bad That was awesome You could argue TJ's QF was better though since it was half the time (which Dannex just said I believe)

Throughout the game there is one thing I’ve repeated :P. Multiple Postmen.

Because 1. They’re returning 2. I village read them 3. I don’t think the reasoning against them is any better than the reasoning I have to village read them I’ll laugh if it’s you ReadingAshVillage!me saying that I think it’s the latter and that an elim probably wouldn’t call it out that hard because of the also possible benefits to their side. Imo Ash’s vocalism against this is a point in their favor as much as your vocalism for it is a point in yours. This is the bit that makes me want to say abandon ship! on this plan because there’s too much that could go wrong and we’d never know. But whatever is decided should be crystal clear by the end of the cycle, preferably a bit before. @Alvron anything more from you?

^^^ I almost want to follow you on sussing Kas but I’ve discovered I can’t read chill!Kas and I village read Kas always anyway (I have the same problem with Illwei, actually) so I’ll stay on Araris. Edit: probably also should mention that I wouldn’t be blindly following you for the sake of it; it’d be an inkling if I agree with the gut read, but that is a very very small inkling for now so not acting on it. Dont like the Pyro train or the Steel train but I also don’t remember if either of those are actual trains.

Hmm please don’t kill Steeldancer. Araris is where I’ll go right now. I don’t like any train that’s viable or already a thing @Ashbringer what did you mean by ‘as for the several-time champion’? Edit: Saying I seem different just makes me laugh because of how insistent I was last game about how my village and elim playstyle arent different :P.

I mean, it’s not like he was singled out, they just block all calls ever But yep

Metaphorical foot, interesting. Drake doesn’t have a foot guys, do the Yiga have feet? That was because Araris based his vote off my incorrect count. Whoops.

…This reads really close to how D1 of LG77 went :P.

Ah. I still think that's something that an elim wouldn't necessarily avoid doing, which you said with saying there's no more than one, but even then that's an eh statement cause I don't think a teammate would be turned away if their partner did it, from doing the same? I dunno depends on the team ig. This is a pointless discussion :P.

Probably accurate: Ashbringer (1): Araris Valerian hyliara (1): Szeth_Pancakes purplewhiteandgold (1): Archer Azmine_king (1): DrakeMarshall Illwei (2): Steeldancer, Kasimir The Unknown Order (1): |TJ| |TJ| (1): Illwei DrakeMarshall (1): Tani People who haven't posted yet: Jondesu hyliara purplewhiteandgold Voting alongside Illwei yet again on TJ for now, largely as a form of pressure to see what happens. I'd also be fine with TUO in a weird way and maybe Drake. The same can also be said about Pyro- I don't think this is a reason to village read someone imo. I at least wouldn't have any problem fake-joke claiming Zelda as elim. That being said I am village reading Pyro atm but for a different reason. I'll join the hosts asking for PMs Maybe one with Steel, pretty please?

Hmm, interesting. And probably fair. I'll keep that in mind, but I apologize if it takes another five chapters before you see this because that's how far I've already written ahead of this

Always

Pfft I didn't fall for it I was like the only one who saw it when it was first posted, and thought it sounded like someone else before that :P. Ehhhh I'm struggling on where to put the line of normal!TUO and elim!TUO. You're right in that TUO was being info friendly as elim in that other game, and is in this one again, and you're also right about how they seem to have a different playstyle than last game. But I also think you've been more decisive than normal this game, so idk. Not sure if I'd vote alongside you or Illwei right now so that's kinda weird. Village (all slight it's d1 cmon)- Pyro Szeth Archer Ash Steel? Yeet Elim (even more slight it's d1 cmon)- TJ TUO (don't ask how that works) Drake? Stick?

Drake you do realize Illwei c/pd all that from someone else in another forum’s post from like five years ago, right?

Indeed The following signifies an unvote: YeetAroundABush I mean, I was evil in that game and trying to come up with any reason I could to justify my fake tunnel, so I don't really know if that's the best example Kinda surprised you're using it, honestly, wouldn't have guessed you would use that considering you were one of the most vocal against the likelihood of elim!Szeth that game :P.