SingingMosaic

I'm nonbinary, panromantic, pansexual, demisexual, and polyamorous, and I guess just saying that tells me why I'm so heavily communication focused personally lol. I have just noted all these book recommendations, they'll make me happy, thanks guys. That spreadsheet is a bit intimidating. As in I haven't looked at it but me and NVDA are going to have a conversation about it, that's for sure...

Ian Ethan Case. More people should know about this wonderful human.

I ran out of rep for today on this thread alone, thanks guys. lol I love being underestimated. Sometimes it's irritating, when someone is condescending. But being underestimated is often pretty fantastic. I walk into a situation and evaluate it and depending on the results, I know which facade to adopt. It can be incredibly useful to have people talking around you like you won't hear them, the things you learn then, and the applications you can put that information to. Being blind gave me that. When I was little I learned pretty quickly how important it was to be able to gather information because people felt confident in the idea that no one was listening. I was often used by various family members who knew about this to help keep people safe, by providing them something they wouldn't have had at all had it not been for a disabled person who wasn't afraid to use their mind. Having skills underestimated can be an advantage or a disadvantage. But when it is a disadvantage, you can often turn it into an advantage at the end anyway, with a healthy dose of extra work and determination.

I'll just put it this way because everyone has said it better than me: I don't need help with most things. If I do, I'm confident in asking for it. If I don't, I'm confident enough in deflecting someone intent on their feel-good moment away from me. I've lived in dangerous areas since I was a small child. I was homeless, once with my family and once pretty much on my own. I handled that for as long as I was able and when I couldn't anymore, I sought assistance about it on my own terms like anyone else, able or disabled would. Now, what would interrupt someone's capacity to do that? Mental health problems. Mine certainly have. My mental health problems are the reason why I am what I am today. And because most of them are chemical in nature, I'd have had them blind or not. I would still be me if I were sighted. I'd have had a different upbringing, and different experiences, so different traits would be more or less emphasized. I'm not denying that, but I'd be me. And if music were a way for Jasnah to record and store information for her own reference and one she could use efficiently, I don't think she'd balk at that. No, she wouldn't sit about playing pretty music. But she could definitely use music. Imagine a Jasnah more sound oriented on Roshar. That presents some interesting possibilities where it comes to information she might have gained sooner or some she'd have gained that she didn't have because she didn't deem it important. All I'm saying is I'm glad I don't have the visual distractions that most have. It occasionally presents an issue but much less commonly than you'd think. If I need visual information, I know how to seek it, and I know how to use it. If I were there and a spren approached me, I think I would ultimately be OK. I'm no stranger to pain and frustration in the learning process, no stranger to challenges. I handle situations involving fire or dangerous chemicals well, you can imagine the learning process of a blind person for that. I use my hands around open flames and on hot stoves, and I do it reasonably safely. That was a painful learning process. And I retained my ability to read Braille, despite all my sticking hands in flames, I still have full sensitivity in my fingertips. That wasn't luck, that was understanding my environment and learning about what I didn't yet. I'm just imagining all the uses for sound. If I had illumination, I could convince your brain that you were standing in a completely different space, in fact that you were standing on nothing at all. What do you think your brain does when given two absolutely contradictory sets of sensory input? Buys me time, that's what, and whether it's a few seconds or a few minutes, that's all I need to get the upper hand. Echolocation? Not a problem. I could use that to see better than sighted people. If I could echolocate as well as some surges would make me able to, I would be a force to be reckoned with.

Where's the new index? I looked in the character thread a couple days ago and it looked the same so I thought maybe it had been cleaned up visually and I couldn't tell.

@Fatebreaker because it's his plot, and anyone else who wants to comment, make suggestions, or put forth possible interactions. This has been some weeks in coming and there are some elements of it that most wouldn't feel comfortable having sprung on them and that I wouldn't be comfortable springing on anyone either and some that, if they come up, would have to be talked about. This is a sliver of the thing that my brain was turning over that I mentioned in previous posts, though that either didn't go anywhere or is still down there somewhere simmering.

I actually hadn't thought through this very much, mainly because I figured a spren could and would pick anyone regardless of whether people thought it was a good idea or not so I just figured they'd work it out. But now I'm having all kinds of ideas. I've been lucky to have a brain with powerful mapping abilities and a level of automatic information gathering and processing that scares me sometimes which, contrary to the belief of a lot of sighted people I meet, is sadly not something we all have. Thinking about what I could do with different surges is a lot of fun. I think this is also why I tend to relate to Brandon's nonhumans or heavily modified humans, as a side note. He points out differences in sensory systems, and then just leaves you to imagine them. And because I think I missed your welcome post either that or you've been here a while lurking, hi, welcome! If you want to compare accessibility notes or anything feel free to message me.

Listeners were the group who lived out on the Shattered Plains, hiding from Odium's forces for thousands of years. Singers are the species as a whole, but this seems sort of complicated socially, as this is a name internally pushed by the Fused or at least some of them. Hope this helps.

Ah Dot probably couldn't be a Steelrunner, I just went to the Sleepless page on the Coppermind and it said that while a hordeling could gain or lose something from hemalurgy, it would disconnect from the rest. Though apparently they can mimic a Larkin's abilities given enough time to specialize? So who knows what they can or can't grow to do over time... Or would that be AV handwavium? I've been everywhere and done strange questionable things and now I can do things? lol What I'll probably have him do is specialize his hordelings to create a very fast form which can sometimes pour on the speed, at a cost. So now on to his backstory. Oooo this will be fun.

The Shard consumed the entirety of this original post in my spoiler tag. So the tags in it didn't end up coming through, I'm reposting it here with them outside, I hope that is OK. I'll tag both of you, because you've both helped me with this character and their updates. Sorry for any confusion that may have caused. @Sorana @I think I am here.

That would make sense, anyway he could probably make one through his normal means. Seeing as how original Dot often uses it to play pranks on people anyway, and would probably be fine without it, because his eye doesn't do anything mechanical for him in the Numenera system.

True. So this would leave the mechanics as they currently stand at: A Sleepless with a flying eye and the ability to sense people, artifabrian and Investiture scholar, with a compact crossbow modified less for sheer damage and more for truer aim, the intent is less to kill and more to put someone out of chasing or attacking him. Them? That's probably just a matter of preference... Now to chew on weaknesses and backstory. Building a character this way around is interesting for me, generally I do them backstory first, and have no idea what they're called until the end. I've also never modified a character between systems, it is surprisingly fun. Should exercise my rusty squeaky brain more.

OK. Thanks guys, this has given me much clearer ideas of Dot's framework. My only question is this, how would we handle the Steelrunning? Or would it just be unneeded since all the bits of him can scurry around rapidly anyway. I kind of like the idea of a Sleepless who is a mixture of things, whose particular life experiences have led them so far into and so far out of the lives of other creatures that they could get attached to people, and relate to them, but in ways that would probably subtly unsettle some of said people. I'm not sure if I can pull someone with this many complex nuances off, but I love a challenge. @Sorana @18th Shard

@Ashbringer I like the idea of Dot being an artifabrian. So this would leave that, his scholarship, his bow, and his spiked Steelrunning. And @18th Shard The weirder, the better. If that's the only way to go with the eye I might, I could also easily see his personality fitting a Sleepless well. Just one that got more involved with other beings than most. It does also fit my mental image of the original Dot, who is biologically 29, but in my head is an unknown and large number of years older. @ZincAboutIt I thought about doing that but I'll wait until people get a feel for how I do things and how I handle the ooc behind the scenes stuff because I agree, something like that sounds like it could be fun if you really knew who you were roleplaying with.

Honestly we could probably scrap empathy, I would be really hesitant with it so it would rarely appear anyway because I wouldn't want to bust into everyone else's RP, just interact with it. Taking that out and expanding the weird could be fun. I was going to approach DA people soon, depending on the Nnimm update, to ask about their potential involvement, because someone said something along the lines of you know you're allowed to say hey the DA messed me up, and it just got stuck in my head. But would there be anything wrong with having more than one character in that environment? Future characters would inevitably branch out to other areas, I try not to put myself in one environment too much because I gotta compromise with distractable brain. lol The reason I was thinking DA Dot in response to your post was because A: he could keep the eye, I mean, who knows how he got it, with all the messing with parts of existence people really shouldn't have been able to mess with who knows what would happen to you, and the eye is fun. Coming up with how he got it would also be fun. And B, there's a lot of potential outlet for the weird quality there, even if it isn't mechanical. Also I kind of want to get rid of his blade, and leave him with some type of small bow or other projectile weapon, enhanced mainly through normal modifications. Not an instant kill by any means, if he got in a fight his entire strategy would be get the high ground as fast as possible and shoot. His eye can't go very far from him and I imagine it's very vulnerable. It can go around corners, if he's close to the corner, so he would usually use it to scoot along a ceiling and slide around a corner and look ahead of him, or to zoom in closer to something he's messing with or look at it from a different angle. So we have the eye, his bow which mainly has better balanced arrows/bolts, his scholarship investiture, his general handiwork I can fix/break/improvise random stuff type skill, his steel feruchemy or the way I'm thinking more likely spiked steel feruchemy and possibly an aviar? I like that idea. Someone who's always sticking their nose around corners and into nooks and crannies and messing with things would live longer if there was a creature able to mentally go hey don't do that, you'll die. I'm going to start messing with his backstory but first I hope to find some cool DA people to figure out if they want Dot, what kind of background he could have there, how to make him more interesting using their ideas and experience and that mental section I wrote in the post above. Which I'll stick in a spoiler here for easy reference. @Sorana @18th Shard And anyone else who wants to chime in, thoughts? For weaknesses I kind of want to put a twist on that one, since it's so common, so I'm chewing on it, and thinking of some more.

Me, too!

Nnimm update: There are weakness changes because of their backstory changes, and a skill addition. One weakness was never rated, and I’m not sure if it was because I didn’t give enough information? The numbers from the old sheet are still there.

This for some reason got my brain turning over stuff about Rock and now one of my new favorite ideas is Rock is another Bondsmith. Also for some reason I'm only seeing half of this thread? Interesting...

I want to change him so that he comes from one of the AV worlds, or half worlds, or simply unmappable places, and to change him mechanically to whatever fits best. Here's his character sheet, with most of the extra Numenera mechanic stuff that wouldn't make any sense removed, and a bit of explanation for his original context. Note that I expect most of this will be lumped into single abilities and some of it will disappear completely, either for being not applicable or or not able to fit in the point cap. @Sorana Warning: Quite long. What he feels like: Context: Character, still in his original context:

Marsh?

Nnimm regarded the tea for a moment more before setting it down. Even if the barkeep intended no harm, which was likely since harming his customers would hurt his business, there was no guarantee they could safely drink whatever was in that cup. They could eat some things humans couldn't, and vice versa. It was a risk they didn't want to take with nowhere to stay yet and no knowledge of the resources that might be available to them. "I think I should be on my way, it has been a long day and I have many things to figure out before I can rest well. But thank you for the information," they said to Aderet. "I appreciate all of it." They glanced down at the small items she had placed on the table, currency by the gist of the exchange. "Is there an ... equivalent amount I can offer? I don't carry much in the way of money, usually but I wouldn't like to leave without paying. Not a good first impression to make anyway," they finished, the corners of their mouth quirking upward slightly. Not a wholly foreign expression, but still not a very familiar one. @Silva @Elend Venture

In that last one I'd put a spoiler tag and say what the spoiler is for, for people who haven't read both or made the connection.

I'll start this by agreeing that Ene has a magical ability to make people smile. It's the way she writes. I just think about her and smile. My second thing, which I'll come back to later, is that if you need something, I'm also willing to help in whatever way I can. Spoilered to help you scroll.

I was sent here when I was formulating mine, and thought it wasn't ready for submission. So I think it's fine either way, unless you wanted to submit that in which case Mathiau's right.