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  1. You know what? I like Peter Jackson’s Hobbit trilogy

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      Channelknight Fadran

      It's nowhere near the level of Incredible that are the Lord of the Rings films, but I still think their existence is a worth one.

      There are, of course, a few main issues with them. I'll put them here in a spoiler box 'cause.... well, spoilers.

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      • The Love Triangle: This one is definitely the most glaring, to the point that the movies could probably kick themselves up a star or two if they'd just done away with it. What's weird is that it's a dumb addition both conceptually and in execution; but honestly, that just means you can kind of deal with it either way. If you're a fan of Kili x Tauriel (which I'm not actually against, btw; the chemistry was a tad weak, but I thought it was okay), then you're likely bothered by the lack of screentime that the two had. If you think the addition was stupid in general, then you can take solace in knowing that there honestly wasn't very much of it.
        • Also it wasn't really a love "triangle" in anything but name. There was, like... maybe a scene and a half where Legolas seems less of a protective older brother and more of a jealous boyfriend... but maybe that's just because Legolas just doesn't give off straight vibes? Hell, he barely gives off romance vibes in the first place. Sorry, Legolas x Gimli shippers - he's just too ace for this.
      • The... "Creative Liberties": Yeah... Sauron and the Nazgul were a little weird, even if pretty much all the additions fit into the canon anyway. It makes sense that Saruman would've seen the strength of Sauron firsthand, that they were aware of the Nazguls' return (which wasn't even that much of a surprise, because they'd never really been defeated in the first place), and Gondor had been fighting off Mordor for several decades as of FotR. The only way in which is was a poor addition was in terms of pacing, because there're practically 45 minutes of Gandalf just taking Ls at Dol Guldur.
        • Basically: as a nerd I appreciated it, and as a writer I didn't.
      • Dragon Sickness: This is actually the same as the love triangle, if you think about it. If you hate its addition, then great - it doesn't stick around for long. But if you do like the idea, then it'll seem underutilized. There probably could've been a better way to utilize the "Thorin corrupted" arc, but otherwise I honestly don't think it sucked all that much.
      • Beta Wormtongue: Alfred was a little weird.

      But there are also LOTS OF COOL THINGS

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      • Martin Freeman as Bilbo Baggins: Need I say more? He did wonderfully. Martin Freeman is as much Bilbo Baggins as Ian Holm, and I will stand by that 'til the day I die.
      • Ian McKellen, sticking to it: An argument could be made that the Christopher Lee and Cate Blanchett weren't quite as "into it" with these films (not to say they gave a bad performance - it was still S-tier at the very least); but Ian McKellen went all the HFIL out with his Gandalf again, and I salute him for it.
      • The CGI...?: I know it's noticeable, and I know that nothing will ever compare to the CG x Miniature x Matte Painting x Cinematography SFX from LotR; but I still really like it. Middle-Earth just has a completely different vibe to it; and considering how fundamentally different Bilbo's journey from Frodo's is, I think that's a good thing.
        • Would've been nice if Azog was live-action, tho
      • Speaking of... Azog!: Giving Thorin a nemesis was an excellent decision, even if his tenuous connection to Sauron was a little contrived. The whole thing about the Pale Orc killing Thror and driving Thrain mad was completely canon; and all things I considered, I can totally see Tolkien adding a Thorin vs Azog plotline if he'd developed that pre-Hobbit.
        • btw, Bolg was in the book. Just in case you weren't aware.
      • Actually including the Battle of the Five Armies: If you didn't know already, then it might (not) surprise you to learn that The Hobbit is a children's story. The only on-"screen" deaths were the trolls (who were turned to stone instead of bled out), Smaug (who was a dragon), and Thorin (who deserved that farewell). Basically, Tolkien was actively avoiding direct bloodshed, which is why he knocked Bilbo unconscious right as the whole thing began  -  that said, for an action/adventure movie, including the whole battle was the right decision.
      • Radagast: Excellent. We love our skrunkly little hermit man.
      • The Music...?: It wasn't standout, but there were a few pieces that really worked. They included Concerning Hobbits sparingly, which meant it just really hit whenever it actually played. In LotR it was a theme for hope and light, while in these films it was more of a wistful and nostalgic tune.
        • Also the end credits theme for the last movie was sung by Billy Boyd, AKA Peregrin Took. I recognized his voice immediately.

      The rest of it was on the Aight to Solid spectrum.

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      • Also the end credits theme for the last movie was sung by Billy Boyd, AKA Peregrin Took. I recognized his voice immediately.

      WOOO! The Last Goodbye!! Such a good song.

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