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  1. I didn't read all three pages too deeply, but I'll toss in some two cents. First, I'll note that Cultivation telling the Shard of Hatred to contain rather than interfere and propagate their Intent perhaps may not be a universally applicable MO for all Shards even if it was presented as such for the new kid on the block. Just sayin'. Second, is that the concepts of minimal interference and direct intervention perhaps should not be all or nothing polarized. I think most could agree that at the very least, it would seem appropriate for a Vessel to at least be looking for how things could be improved even if they don't always act directly on it. Sazed does a pretty decent job of asking Wax for his opinion and getting his buy in, correctly assuming Wax didn't want Telsin Ascending to an Avatar of Autonomy and nuking Elendel. He laid out the Shardic scale as best he could and let people he trusted see the scope and he tried to allow himself to be mutable to Wax's opinions and wishes. If we're talking governing populations, then we might as well throw current leadership ideology into the mix. Most supervisors I've had weren't elected and I didn't exactly get to choose them but I worked with them anyway. We've referenced hands-off and micromanagement. We've got a lot more options than that. Again, Sazed in TLM is a pretty good example that a Shard doesn't have to let his or her vote weigh more than anyone else on the planet. Assuming otherwise is that, an assumption. Bringing the OP down to an even more local relatable level is the extent a person in a position of power or authority should interfere with someone else's life. I'm not a Shard, but I am a parent and have been a supervisor. I technically have the authority and power to say "my way or the highway" and to structure the environment as I see fit, not unlike a small-scale Shard but without the oddities of a specific Intent. Basically, the rules change based on the circumstance. I'm probably stating the obvious but a parent intervening for a 4 year-old is a much different prospect than for a 14 or 40 year old. Again, probably stating the obvious but I need to remember this, since just because I'm smarter, have more experience, or have the leader hat does not mean I'm necessarily right or that my vote or voice has greater weight than another - even if it feels like I'm debating with a four year-old, literal or otherwise. To the broader topic, the degree the people governed by a Shard are consulted doesn't seem to have been brought up much (if it was, I apologize). I did see a lot of debate on the difficult in defining "good", "progress", or "best" which I think is for Roshar or the theoretical world to decide locally - until we want to get into Shardic international policy which I don't really want to at the moment.
  2. Just saying, I think it's fine if it is. If Brandon built it off of that concept, you gotta hand him some credit if he designed ten orders of knights and philosophies based on a rule for writing fiction as a starting point. Expansion from the condensed version is why we watch the movie and read the book, not just read the blurbs right? I mean, you could call The Emperor's New Groove just "politician tours rural town and funds community rec center" or The Lord of the Rings" just "guy improperly disposes used jewelry " and completely excise any style whatsoever. Finding out that a key concept like the Ideals is cross-disciplinary makes it cooler to me, not less.
  3. TSM ending would imply that a Shardblade can be summoned at interplanetary distances. No idea on the latency. Possible, but risky. That would put their Plate at point blank range for a Duralumin enhanced Pewter or Steel strike potentially demolishing the Plate sections you sent over. Break the chestplate, and the rest of the armor becomes much less functional (see Adolin's duel in WoR). Not saying that it couldn't work, just that it's not a guaranteed victory. Too many undefined aspects. Assuming they are fighting tactically and at least as optimally as a relatively nomal person dropped into a death match and not driven into a Thrill-crazed punch out. A fight on a plateau of the Shattered Plains is a much different prospect compared to downtown Luthadel. Debris, environmental metals, size of arena, visual cover, resource caps and more make this complicated. I'll just run down a few strategies that I might try to employ if I were training either side. -Unoathed- Depends on the degree of training they've had at commanding their Blade to change shape or persist after leaving their hand. If they can resummon at will and throw their Blade, then they feasibly have a Plate-enhanced thrown Shardspear that would punch through just about anything. That's a terrifying ranged option that treats cover like tissue paper (think Huio in Dawnshard). Reduction of the ten heart beat cooldown makes this extremely dangerous. Add that with throwing any sort of environmental debris and their ability to take down a Mistborn is becomes much more viable depending on how good their throwing arm is. I will note that while a Radiant can probably just close their helmet visor and hold their breath for hours on end, a normal Unoathed might have issues if they frequently seal their helmet. Now granted Shardbearers are trained to protect the eyeslit, but that's still one of the more obvious sections for the Mistborn to target. Basically try to close distance and use thrown objects to try to get the Mistborn into an untenable position - summoning the Shardblade as a shield when needed to block heavier attacks if opportunity allows. If you're unsure on these, just think about how Shardplate is actually deployed and fought against - -Mistborn- Enivronment matters so much more on the Mistborn side. Limit them to coins, and yeah, it's a really tough match. Let them scale buildings and try to drop heavier objects on them, or moving out to areas that someone weighing over 1500 lbs can't reasonably follow them, and they have a lot more options. Sure, a Shardbearer could conceivably just cut down a tower, but that's still risky to attempt. If the environment allows for it, cat and mouse, hit and run tactics where Tin will let them pretty effectively track where the Unoathed is. At range, launch projectiles to damage plate and drain Stormlight. If they get close, use Bendalloy for fine maneuvering, possibly going for a quick kill through the eyeslit before bailing. If they can conceivably stretch the conflict for hours, Pewter will let them stay awake long past the Unoathed could manage without Stormlight enhancement. The Mistborn's kit allows for evasion and strikes that are difficult to train against without someone with their powerset - Bendalloy, Steel, and Iron in particular I think would be pretty tough to anticipate. Actually, if you sent a well-stocked Vin with a field of Koloss swords like during the Siege of Luthadel, I think she could clobber most Shardbearers.
  4. Presumably that much gold will weigh him down. Because it's heavy. The primary issue with a lot of these is that Miles is clever and resourceful and luring him into a scenario where you could deploy one of these strategies would be extremely difficult unless you've succeeded at the main step that Wax managed - to capture him or otherwise immobilize him. Take cremation - how exactly do get the drop on him with that much fuel for fire when he may be able to just walk or shoot his way out? Does the setup withstand exploding when the dynamite he carries on his person nonfatally blows him up and either scatters or possibly detonates whatever you were burning him with? Similarly, lugging around a vat of acid or trying to rig a trap to dump it on him is tough for how clever and heavily armed he is. In AoL, we see him ambush Wax and friends on the train when Wax wasn't ready. When Wax was prepared and could force a confrontation at the Vanisher hideout, it was where Miles could field a small army and set the environment. Miles doesn't get into fights he doesn't think he will win, and he's had dozens of criminals do their best to take him down. Not a chance he'll go anywhere near the open ocean. Pit trap? No way at a fancy wedding party, on a moving train, or his own turf. As a nod to our resident Hemalurgy enthusiast, @Trusk'our, Wax and friends didn't know enough about Hemalurgy for any of that. They didn't have Spook's book yet and the details had been redacted from the public history by Sazed. Getting close enough for Hemalurgy without Atium against possibly the best brawler Wax has ever known without getting stabbed by his Aluminum knives or shot - good luck. As for strategies, the main trick is to immobilize him so he can't shoot or blast his way out of his restraints or whatever you were planning to use to kill him. His own regenerating flesh will shield his spikes from acid or fire and when fighting he is constantly tapping enough Health to survive practically anything. There are plenty of options, it's the execution that's the hard part. Wax's best bet on the train, if he ever had the opportunity, probably would have been if he had managed to get Miles on the floor with a well-timed weight increase then pinning him by just sprawling on him, tapping weight as necessary. I don't think Miles could escape if a Skimmer sat on his upper back and shoulders while he was prone. The catch is that Wax was on a train and couldn't tap too much weight without damaging the train car, but he should have been able to tap enough to pin Miles and get him into a wrestling lock. Of course if Miles didn't have backup and is just fine getting shot as collateral.
  5. Yeah... could luck getting consensus on "fair", "equitable", or "ethical" on this forum. No one's gonna mention the first Cosmere magic distribution system, lottery via Shaod? Part of what made Elantris interesting is that magic trivialized basic needs like food, water, and material possessions. They addressed cost of commuting for intracity travel for crying out loud. If a regular person broke their arm, they could walk in and ask an Elantrian draw for a few seconds to a minute, bam, arm healed. I know someone is gonna say that you have to be born Arelene and live close geographically, but let's just keep it to distribution for their society rather than globalization. I don't think most people, particularly if they were eligible for the lottery, would mind living in Arelon under Raoden's rule after he restored Elantris. Even Dilaf wanted their aid, though granted his wife was wrecked after an unfortuante typo (swipo?).
  6. If we're looking at it from Shallan making the decision that's one thing, but looking at it from the other direction and I'm not sure if would have worked out on Kaladin's side. Kal really, really, does not take betrayal well. I'm not convinced that a relationship between him and Shallan would have panned out to the end result of them getting hitched. I'm not sure if back then Kal could have relaxed enough for a stable relationship, period. He was captain of the Kholin guard, responding to attacks from Szeth, Bridge Four was no longer making bridge runs but they were still in mortal danger, all of which makes any stable relationship tricky for him because the lives of his charges will always take precedence over a date. Extrapolate to Kaladin actually having to be okay with the Unseen Court, Shallan flirting with the Ghostbloods, and Formless? I'm not saying never but... Kal is nowhere near as understanding of Alethi backstabbing and political maneuvering as Adolin is. The Kholins pretty much welcomed in and adopted Shallan but it's a tough sell to the rest of the rather unstable Davars to accept Helaran's killer. Can you imagine Kaladin being able to actually sit back and let Shallan do infiltrations if they were in a relationship? For a lot of reasons, I think Shallan would not have been good for Kaladin's particular variety of fears and issues. Could it have worked? Maybe. There's just way more obstacles that would have to be sorted out - and it's really hard to save someone drowning when you're sinking at the same time. Structurally, Shallan and Kaladin are much, much weaker and would require more overhauls than Shallan and Adolin.
  7. Hmm... for me it depends. There's a lot that may or may not go into it that doesn't really get addressed or is only alluded to in the books. Like... if I simply was born as a Mistwraith and then uplifted to a Kandra then sure. Friends, family, and community would be the new norm. If I was like the First Generation starting out as human then get zapped into a pile of goop and have to relearn everything... that's a much, much harder sell. Is my family also Kandra or will I simply outlive all my human family and friends? How much conscious control does it take to maintain my shape? For example, can I lock into a form or do I have to mentally maintain my entire fluid mass? I mean... generally it takes an hour or more for a Kandra to slowly eat and memorize a form before recreating it - along with placing each individual hair in every pore. TenSoon and the spies pre-Catacendre are the ones who ate a lot, imitated a lot, and got really, really fast at changing and copying. MeLaan who has been doing it for half a millennia still takes what, half an hour to an hour or two? Getting ready for the day would probably take an order of magnitude longer for me than it currently does. At least. I think we are severely minimizing the amount of practice and mental effort all this takes for a Kandra. Considering for them this may be a pre-requisite to learning to walk. For context, during TenSoon's trial only those up to the Ninth Generation were considered adults - with a new generation created every hundred years. Which means that under 100 is considered adolescence. Basically... the degree of flexibility and the ways it can be useful in many ways feels like training a machine learning model - by hand. There aren't textbooks or designs to download (yet) for a Kandra so the vast majority of the modifications require being much, much more closely acquainted with death and the deceased and potentially tens of thousands of hours of practice if not hundreds of thousands of hours. If I were initially human and got zapped into a Kandra... it would be hard, really hard for me to become okay with the idea of eating that many people for practice. MeLaan as a member of the Seventh Generation is quite comfortable with her identity and physiology as being entirely unrelated to humanity - citing that humans are more closely related to a cow than a Kandra. I do not have that mental divide. Along with that, Kandra like rotten meat - is that palate or dietary and will I need to make the change over? I mean... MeLaan liked booze but VenDell turned down Allik's pastries and hot chocolate saying that he was strictly carnivorous. Conventional wisdom says that if they can copy the whole digestive system they should be able to process food like that digestive system does - except they clearly can't make bones or hair despite logically being able to copy the cells that produce them. All in all, if I were given the option for free elective Hemalurgic surgery that turned me into a Kandra I don't think I would take it. Too much I'm not comfortable with. Especially if the spikes still require Hemalurgic donors.
  8. Why do you assume typing requires two hands? Sure if you want to be efficient and stuff, but when did Rosharan cultural take that into account? Answer, gloves are already acceptable for various feminine tasks. There's nothing that absolutely requires keyboards to be two handed. Efficiency isn't even at the top of our current layout choice considering how heavily QWERTY outnumbers Dvorak. If the convention is still present, they would bend the design of the keyboard to fit. This by itself wouldn't be enough reason for a break from the tradition.
  9. Taking the question literally, nonlethally harvesting from 20 souls invalidates the last clause of "without having to spend a lot of money" because... you just can't ram spikes through people and expect to get away with it without significant time and investment for that scale of kidnapping or a huge monetary compensation to make them willing to sit through that. Beyond that you would never get me to buy into this scheme for at least a dozen reasons starting with why I don't hand out my bank account password even though hypothetically you could make deposits and not just withdrawals. The bolded and underlined sections are the big unknown in this timeshare question. How? From what I can tell, we don't have anything from Scadrial that would let us just key to someone's Identity without having that Identity available in the first place. You're probably better off using Duralumin spikes and non-lethally harvesting from yourself, have your buddy do the same then swap spikes. Let's take a step back and look at the full Cosmere and look at when people or objects have had Investiture forcibly drained when you would expect Identity to potentially be a factor.
  10. Let's look at aspects of the experiment. First, Wax didn't use just a Trellium sample but one with a Hemalurgic charge. His stated goal wasn't to make either Atium or Lerasium but to confirm if it was possible - with the further expressed reasoning of needing to know if the Set had the capability so he could take them down to protect. The electrical melter machine was set to pull only a few sixteenths of an inch and stop while running high current through it then he observed the two halves of the Ettmetal nugget taking on characteristics of Atium and Lerasium. He set up the test to be done remotely, with a half an hour setup to get his timer rigged hydraulic punch then a five minute delay on top of that while doing the experiment in an unobserved metal safe box in a concrete bunker with a thick metal door. Then there was the secondary explosion when he tried to scrape the Harmonium plastered to the back of the safe box - which is when his mask was torn free, and when Harmony thinks he inhaled a dose - which happened during Steris's viewpoint not Wax. Could be Intent. Could be Hemalurgy. I have a untestable crackpot RAFO hypothesis but I'm not sure if Wax is that stupid, despite his claims to the contrary that he was being stupid at the time. We know that the entire sample of the initial half a gram of Ettmetal was not consumed even with some of it converted to energy. Then he touched the stuff to scrape it into a bag. What if the still cooling Ettmetal had embedded fragments of Trellium which under normal circumstances would still be trying to repel the Harmonium and maintain the partial separation into Atium and Lerasium? And if Wax burned Steel to confirm he got all the fragments, charging the Ettmetal which would repel the internally embedded Trellium...? If splitting Ettmetal into Atium and Lerasium requires doing the high current stretch to polarize the metal, blowing up a bunker by introducing Trellium, then a Coinshot actively blowing themselves up by touching the stuff and burning Steel... it would stand to reason why no one else has tried this. Because it's so obviously a bad idea. Properties of the product of the explosion, if you can find it, would be just pure speculation on my part.
  11. Well, for starters it's worth acknowledging that any mental model and framework aren't universal. Let me ask a few questions that people can chip in if they want to dealing with memory and identity. When you "think" how would you describe that experience? Do you hear your native language in your head or with a flip of a switch can you start thinking in a secondary language? If so, now ask what framework you would expect a person born deaf to use? When asked to visualize something, like a favorite childhood toy, a favorite memory, a first car, do you see an image in your head? I don't have that. Despite having fairly good spatial awareness, I don't see a picture in my head. It's really hard to explain it, but while I'll know that my first car was silver with grey seats, the body style and the layout of the engine and can describe it to you, I don't really see it in my head. My father is red/green colorblind and I've had to get used to the idea that the way he perceives the world is fundamentally different from me. So how much of you're identity and perception is tied to input and your mental model? Maybe consider reading accounts that look at memory. I did a quick search and Clive Wearing has no long-term memory, only a short-term memory recall of nine seconds. Nine seconds. That's longer than reading from the beginning to this part of my post. Despite that he could still play and conduct music and devoted to his wife despite not being able to recall the context of their relationship. I get that continuity of self is sometimes a spooky or uncertain topic. External depictions aren't quite the same as someone trying describe it in their words. I have some older family friends, a married couple where the the wife had either a head injury or an illness, I can't remember the specifics and her personality changed dramatically. Her husband had to think long and hard if he wanted to stay with her since she didn't really act like the girl he had married despite retaining her memories. If you're interested I could probably ask what that was like for them, they ended up staying together. My suggestion is if this is a topic you want to seriously think about, maybe do some research.
  12. I would say it would probably give you a longer than average lifespan but that's it. You'll still die of old age, but at the peak of physical health. All the other things than normally would make you kick the bucket, barring having your metalminds stripped from you and executed, wouldn't be a problem at all. If you did have longer life... it would be as a spindly incapable geriatric like TLR who was still alive up until getting stabbed through the heart if I remember right. Not a great option.
  13. Well... actually the way that you would probably do this is by having the koloss operate as labor in an iron mine. You don't need to supply them with food, they can eat dirt. You don't need to supply them with metal, they mine it. Ruin can't see into underground metal deposits anyway. Refining it for Allomantic purposes would require extra work or eyes, but using Koloss for heavy labor in TFE seems like common sense if you are willing to maintain constant control of them. Let them move the raw and refined metal and eat a couple bars on the sly. Make their swords out of Feruchemical iron and let those be the Compounding sinks and just swap them out when full. Beyond that, as you rotate out Koloss Compounders, the stores are Identity locked to the deceased and much harder to access the Investiture. Destroy the F-Iron spike and they are all effectively Identity locked. For it to be useful it simply has to be at least marginally comparable to the rather slow rate of harvest of one Atium geode per slave per week, which isn't even pure Atium but an alloy. Really, the two biggest catches I see with this is that we still haven't cracked the hoops to jump through for Hemalurgic Compounding to work - meaning we don't know if there are complications that would render this strategy with a Koloss unviable. I also can't remember anything that confirms that Allomancy stolen via Hemalurgy is powered by Ruin. It might still be forcing that chunk of soul to draw from Preservation anyway. Greater Cosmere Spoilers: On the flip side, Hemalurgists repelled Preservation's Mists, so something was going on when they burned metal.
  14. Yeah... I'm gonna agree on the "this theory doesn't make sense in the slightest." Let's break it down step by step. Step one. Make a voodoo doll (later stated without the Shard's knowledge using Connection and a lot of Investiture). Issue one is doing this at all - because creating something directly tied to the Shard's governing consciousness without the Shard's knowledge is like trying to establish an internet connection without the target server ever pinging you. Think about it. That's just not how Connection works. It's like asking fire to not generate heat via combustion, it's part of the definition. You're proposing to Connect something to the mind and being, the Vessel that controls the Shard and to not have it notice? No idea how you do that. Next, is whacking your voodoo doll with Nightblood. In a nutshell, Nightblood's properties prevent killing anything by proxy. Because Nightblood consumes on all three Realms, he destroys the framework and structure of anything that he is drawing power through. Draw an Aon and he won't absorb all of the Dor, he'll break down the Aon itself. Kill your voodoo proxy and Nightblood would consume the proxy and the Connection itself rather than traveling on manufactured Connection to damage the Vessel. This is why it is really not healthy to draw Nightblood, even with a lot of Investiture. As for what happened to Rayse, it's worth looking at Secret History. There's a few times Kelsier deliberately pulls back from the power of Preservation to communicate with others, including Spook. His "soul" as he describes it is what he uses to communicate and it is the Connections he had to Spook in conjunction with the cracks in Spook's soul that allowed for that. This consciousness is what Taravangian destroyed when he swung the Cognitive aspect of Nightblood at Rayse. That said... I'm going to quibble a bit over the Coppermind definition of Physical Manifestation that has been referenced because I don't remember that term being used canonically. Manifesting in the Physical Realm is seen a couple of times in SA when a Shard is visible and tangible within the Physical Realm. However, there was no physical presence at Rayse's demise - this is confirmed as everything happened in the Cognitive Realm with Szeth entirely unaware of what had occurred up until the Shard of Odium spat out Rayse's disfigured corpse at the location the bulk of his attention had been at his passing. That section in the Coppermind doesn't seem to differentiate between when the Shard is visible only in the Cognitive Realm and has a tangible presence in the Physical Realm which seems shortsighted to conflate the two states. I think it's safe to say that those multiple copies of Preservation we saw going around comforting people still housed at least part of the mind of Leras - it was the Cognitive Realm and Kel could see the slow degradation of both his form and mannerisms. I suspect if one of those copies were to be hit by Nightblood then everything that had been there to be hit, whatever fraction of mind that was governing that copy would have consumed leaving Leras's mind that much weaker. I think it was because Taravangian got Rayse's full attention that he took out his full mind.
  15. Yeah... we're gonna have rampant speculation at best I suspect. Considering space within Shadesmar is directly tied to perception with geography not mapping directly to the Physical Realm, I want to say that some people have been wondering what will happen to Shadesmar when people actually begin space travel and physically see how far apart everything actually is. Because people have a hard time actually grasping astrological scale, Shadesmar doesn't have the matching scale and this probably relates to aspects of the environment. Like... maybe breathing isn't a problem because the vacuum of space wasn't an understood concept. Gravity doesn't make sense either when it comes to walking from planet to planet. Now for hundreds if not thousands of years people just take it for granted that you can walk and breathe in Shadesmar - and so it probably has cognitively been cemented that way. So why does it look so weird? Because not everything was imagined by humanity according to Syl.
  16. Like other have said, rate matters a lot. Infinite is a perhaps less useful term than it sounds. From a certain standpoint you could argue that a leaky faucet has infinite water for the intent of never running out, but that's a far cry from a fire hose. There's been several WoBs that talk about what Dalinar's Perpendicularity can't power because it doesn't have enough juice. Throughput, pressure, and rate are related but distinct terms for the concepts you're looking at. It also seems safe to assume that different materials may take different rates to infuse, or at least it seems like a poor call to assume it is all instantaneous. Like how different types of ground can soak in only so much rain so fast before it runs off, there may be varying rates at which gemstones and other materials absorb Investiture. There must be some measurable time as Stormlight itself has a travel time when flowing through the medium of air. This in conjunction with the small blip of time that gets stretched elastically when Kaladin sees spheres get infused when left out in the Highstorm. As for Kel in the Well, he was unraveling and would have faded had Fuzz not shoved him in and said "Be Preserved. Kelsier. Survivor." His "body" reformed immediately, becoming part of the power. It's making assumptions that he needed the whole year marinating to become a Cognitive Shadow. Now which of all of those parts were absolutely required and what wasn't, that's a different question, if a Command was necessary or Intent. Simply using the power elevated Rashek a Splinter that could have resisted The Beyond indefinitely. Unless I'm missing something, the Highstorm never seems like sufficient juice to move the planet, alter genetics globally, or shift geography on a tectonic scale. The Well of Ascension was something more. Possibly that it was a mass of power already accumulated and accessible in the Physical Realm and designated for use - and could be consumed. It was used up. Spent. Would take another thousand years for that much power to accumulate. Compare that to something that blows through every few weeks or months. Kelsier didn't use the Well. In his case it was more like keeping his hands warm on the shielding of a nuclear reactor, no where close to utilizing it to the full extent possible.
  17. Remember that even on Roshar, the various types of Invested light have different shelf lives. Voidlight persists longer than Stormlight and Towerlight fades almost immediately away from the Sibling. The nature of the Investiture itself may be a major factor, not just the pressure differential. I could see Autonomy's light not working well with containers or confinement in general.
  18. Just checking, are you looking at total power or burn rate? They discuss which metals burn fastest in the first Mistborn book. Burn rate is a separate but related metric to power available per ounce of metal. My assumption is that in each case, the amount of metal burned per second is tied to the "work" done by the metal. If we look at the various burn rates of metals as discussed in TFE, Pewter is one of the fastest burning metals whereas Tin and Copper are some of the slowest burning metals. Steel and Iron burn quite quickly but it doesn't seem like it because the Allomancer generally uses those abilities in short bursts. Enhancing eyesight logically would take less power than strengthening the entire body or throwing objects around with Steelpushes. When looking at powering abilities with pure Investiture like the jar of unkeyed Dor used in TLM, this seems logical to me. Burn rates and utilization have already been discussed, to an extent in the books, but not with hard metrics - Brandon got away with by talking about beads or vials, never giving more precise units. How much power is within each ounce of metal might also depend on which direction Brandon wants to go. He could decide that gram for gram each non-godmetal gives the same amount of power as it operates as a "catalyst" (which always feels like an improper term since it's consumed, but that's how Brandon describes it) to draw Preservation's power from the Spiritual Realm. The power isn't in the metal for Allomancy, save for intrinsically Invested metals like Atium. Alternatively, Brandon could go for molar mass with the power gained be directly tied to the atom count. A mol of Iron and a mol of Tin might give the same amount of power, in which case one gram of Iron will give more power than one gram of Tin. That said, because the ability tied to Iron does more work at a normal burn, Iron will burn through that power faster. It could be a third option that I haven't thought of, but this concept has a parallel to realworld energy storage with batteries, with lithium-ion being the most energy dense battery format we have. My assumption is the same concept applies to Feruchemy. Storage time and difficulty varies by attribute, and abilities like Speed and Health likely have higher power requirements to get the desired effect - though opportunity cost certainly comes into play. Wax can afford to walk around at 30% weight casually but Wayne could hardly do the same when storing health. Some attributes are just hard to store because of safety restrictions, like strength, health, or age.
  19. Comes down to context. If dropping a MacGuffin into the volcano is all it took to take down Odium, Kaladin would have done a stellar job. He's had to operate around Unmade or the partial corruption of Urithiru - though he did snap and came back anyway. Nothing suggests to me that he would be immune to its influence. I don't think he could use the One Ring without it affecting him. With Kaladin, if there was a time that he needed invisibility for a tactical reason... he probably would use it. Considering he was ready to use a screaming Shardblade in WoR up until he found out that Shallan's Blade didn't scream. I'm guessing most of us would say that no, Kaladin doesn't seem likely to dominate the One Ring. Bullying forces of nature and incredible power into doing what he wants is Dalinar's wheelhouse. Blackthorn stomping Sauron? Seems reasonable. Dalinar seems like a very interesting candidate to be given access to the One Ring in nearly any phase of his life. The Ring's properties of dominion over other rings and races/nations uniquely parallels Dalinar's own conflict of choosing when and where to take control appropriately.
  20. It won't kill you, but it may take a while to acclimitize. The record for an astronaut in the space station was over a year and the list of ways that the shift back impacted them was quite extensive. Not only their muscles atrophied but their skeletal structure lost calcium as well. Going from 0 G to 1 G is a much bigger shift than 1 G to 1.2 G. For reference, the advice for backpackers hiking unto the mountains is to not use a pack more than 1/3 your body weight for day hikes, and only 1/4 for daily use. Unless I'm mistaken, flexibility and stretching would need to be a much higher priority if trying to bulk up in 1.2 G. The increased gravitational load will compress the body vertically putting greater loads on the discs in the spine (people tend to be tallest in the morning and slowly shrink over the day). Since the ligaments would also be under a heavier load at the same time, they will thicken and adapt in this compressed state. Yes, the body will relax when horizontal and the spine has a chance to decompress, but ligaments don't have this same unloading. This is not something that would just reverse itself when going back to 1 G. It's not just muscles that adapt, it's the whole system, and the ligaments would not be as limber as before the 1.2 G move unless actively trained. To reference the OP question about DBZ, I think someone on YouTube (so take this with a grain of salt) tried wearing weights all day every day to train with just extra weight like someone did on Naruto and it was really rough on his hips and knees. He ended up spending a lot of time just laying around because it hurt to move for the first week, though I think he had like 80 lbs on him by the end of not more. He did get stronger and faster than his baseline, but at a hideously low time and energy to improvement rate compared to his buddy that did a conventional workout plan as a contrast. Basically, yes, actually moving around at 1.2 G will make you stronger compared to 1 G people, but if you're hoping to go back and wow people with your new gains... you're probably better off using a conventional workout routine for the planet and environment you plan to stay long term. You'll be more tired overall trying to do this the lazy way.
  21. Define "win." Incapacitate or trap probably should count for immortals. Trigger coathanger mode for Hoid? Counts as a win. Trap Kel in the Well of Ascension or similar prison? Win. Convince someone like Szeth equipped with Nightblood during SA 3 and 4 that the other needed to go down? Win. Between the two, Hoid knows more but Kel is willing to commit to gambits that would get him killed in the process to further his goals. Hard to say which is more dangerous in conflicts spanning hundreds if not thousands of years. As we last saw them, drop the two in an empty field? Hoid would win but that's because he has access to more raw power to trap Kel. Design would let him Soulcast aluminum or whatever he wanted. Let Kel do what he does best - crew leader, thief, and conman? Kel is a better administrator and networker considering the kind of help that comes when Hoid needs it. Ulaam spent a year recording Hoid's sillier quotes and Design who ran a ramen shop and made him into a coat rack. Kel inspires genuine loyalty and trust - even from someone like Shai. Give him time and it wouldn't surprise me if Kel could orchestrate Hoid's demise or imprisonment. Hoid would just have to get to TLR, Ruin, or Trell levels of dangerous for him to pull out all the stops. His agenda is safety for Scadrial. Don't know enough about Hoid's end goal to know if he would consider bumping Kelsier and the Ghostbloods off the board to be a worthwhile use of his time.
  22. I disagree on using Wax's movement as a basis for plausibility because he was a master Coinshot and used Steelpushes for the rapid movements that dashing would be useful for. BoM in the very beginning of the attack on their train he deflects bullets aimed at Marasi and rockets into the hallway by Pushing off the side of the car to slam into the wall before shooting the bandits. Keepers similarly had a simpler and more scalable speed technique available to them as well. I'm also iffy on if striking would be the way to go. That math checks out, but a Skimmer probably would be better off falling on their target. Rapid lunge by dropping weight, grab on like a koala and then tap to force them to the ground. Alternately step on their foot, knee, or head weighing several times normal weight. First time we might see somone take the time to master this kind of technique would be when they don't have an obviously simpler method to accomplish the same task and a reason to learn it - either a Skimmer Ferring melee combatant or Malwish commandos in Era 3 or 4 with weight Medallions.
  23. You have to understand that the Metallic Arts and the chart with the 16 metals are the arcanists' interpretation of the observable state of the Invested Arts of Scadrial. If it breaks the rules, then that just means the existing chart is incomplete and flawed. Vin believed the pattern where a pure metal if properly alloyed with an additional element could exhibit a different effect - that's how Duralumin was invented/reintroduced in the first place. Presumably Seekers also confirmed that Aluminum and Duralumin followed the same format where one felt like a Pull, the other felt like a Push. The introduction of Aluminum confirms that it is detectable when the Inquisitor force-fed Vin and made her wipe her metals, waiting for the proper pulse pattern before letting her go. Silver as a pure metal was tested as an Allomantic metal but it did apparently nothing, nor could it be detected by a Seeker. That is why it did not end up on the Allomantic table, even though it is a component of Electrum. It's as viable as the carbon added to Iron to make Allomantic Steel. As for Aluminum belonging in the conversation with Feruchemy... it absolutely belongs on the table because whether or not it can hold a charge is separate from the fact that Feruchemists have the ability to siphon off their Identity into Aluminum at all. The rest of how that storage or withdrawal is as yet undefined, as many are quick to point out, but that a Full Feruchemist can direct one of their attributes into Aluminum? Storing Identity into Aluminim is a distinct Feruchemical ability that can be harvested by Hemalurgy. Presumably they have tried and learned they cannot do any attribute siphoning into Silver. As for Aluminum and Hemalurgy... well it depends on how they did the testing. If just stabbing an Aluminum spike into a person is one thing, but doing the exact same thing with the proper Hemalurgic Intent removes all powers? Then yeah, it's Hemalurgically relevant because that utility requires the proper knowledge and Intent. Holding a metal spike and having it punch into not just the flesh but the Spiritweb targeting specific attributes? That's Hemalurgy regardless of if the charge sticks or not.
  24. You know... another way to frame the OP statement of ignorance as a theme could be instead phrased as the importance of context. I know I'm stating the obvious, but how people act can look wildly different based on the extent that you understand the context. Rather than being afraid of screwing things up because of what I don't know, I'd rather spend my time trying to identify the right questions to understand the context and framework of what I can know for what I need right now. I don't need a one-size-fits-all answer. I need many small answers for the people and challenges in my sphere of influence.
  25. So... if my understanding is right, that by itself wouldn't get Spook Feruchemy. A-Nicrosil enhances a target's burn and H-Nicrosil harvests raw Investiture, which is separate from the power granting metals. F-Nicrosil with an Unsealed Metalmind can bestow Feruchemy... but in this case it's a chicken and egg problem. Someone has to have the Feruchemical power to store into the Nicrosilmind in the first place in addition to someway to manipulate or otherwise blank the Identity of the storage. At this point, Sazed was the last Feruchemist and he's Ascended, and I believe all other Steel Inquisitors are dead. They have no Lerasium either, Hoid and Elend used the last known samples on Scadrial until Wax accidentally manufactures some in TLM. The only one with any Feruchemical abilities at all directly after the Catacendre is Marsh - though they do have a pile of Inquisitor spikes to experiment with along with all the complications of Hemalurgic granted powers. Unless the South has access to metalborn, that's what they've got.
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