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It's hard to say what Vasher has developed since helping Shashara create Nightblood, but looking through the known Commands... I'm not convinced that Awakening a Type 4 object leaves the object totally on its own for decision making. I mean, we see Vasher giving conditional Commands and even bestowing his fighting ability to a shirt and pair of pants that didn't even belong to him. Now there are certainly going to be consequences to curbing a sentient weapon, but I'm not sure how much more extreme they would be than the way Nightblood ended up. I might try "Cut things other than me" or "Fight for me as if you were me". That said, I'm wondering if there needs to be some sort of Command or Visualization component that will have the sword actively draw Investiture from the target, as both Nightblood and Vivenna's sword to. Destroy might fit into that. If "Be a sword" is a valid Command, there might be interesting side effects. In the same way that most Cosmere healing restores a person to their spiritual ideal, this might create a weapon that repairs itself and actively resists any damage to itself in order to "Be a sword". Presumably if it was made of conventional materials, it would draw on Investiture to obey its Command. Nightblood probably is nigh-indestructible because of his sheer Investiture and how he tries to destroy anything he's swung at, but not every weapon will be like that.

This is really two questions not one. The poll asks what I would do personally, while the introductory post asks what I would do if I was writing SA. Those are very different questions. For the first one, I don't think I could kill someone equipped with an Honorblade on Roshar. I don't have the training, equipment, connections, or resources to pull it off, even if I had the inclination. I'm far more likely to be killed either by Moash protecting himself or a Fused retaining Jezrien's Blade for Odium's side. Should by some quirk of fate Moash ends up in my power without his Blade, I would hand him over to the relevant legal body. I am not a judiciary of any Rosharan nation, nor am I comfortable serving as both judge and executioner. Should I be called to serve as a juror for a trial for Moash, then it would depend on the relevant legislature, range of punishments served by the court, and provable crimes. Stating my knowledge from reading SA would either set a horrible precedent or fail to hold up in court. Should he be convicted, I would not support torture for his crimes, as I do not like how those practices change those instructed to carry them out. There's generally a reason punishments are fines (monetary restitution), community service (labor restitution), imprisonment (isolating convicts from others they can harm), and execution (reduction of costs associated with imprisonment freeing up funds for other community needs). Restitution, restoration, protection, and prioritization of the innocent are more important to me than channeling personnel and resources in pursuit of revenge or retribution. To answer the second, it depends on the rest of the story. From a narrative standpoint, the characters are the ones who make their decisions and choose the associated risks and consequences. Take Amaram - he was trying to kill Kaladin and so Rock shot him. Rock probably had no idea who or even what his captain was fighting, but he made the decision and accepted the consequences. This is a big messy war, and Moash could fall for a host of reasons that have nothing to with his history, motives, or possible future. A Fused like Lezien could awaken and hate the human among them. A Windrunner not of Bridge Four could kill Moash in self defense. Dalinar or Jasnah could order a strike on Moash to try to recover the Honorblade. How would Moash's decisions or end state affect other characters like Kaladin, Navani, and the rest of Bridge Four? I'm nowhere near Brandon's caliber, but the answer will almost certainly be whatever makes the best story.

I think geometry really became fascinating to me when I ran into a game that showcases how the various geometric shapes interact and define each other. It's called Euclidea, it's on the play store as a phone game, and online at https://www.euclidea.xyz/. Building from first principles, as far as I can tell, everything that the game has had me do could legitimately be done by someone who had a piece of string, two nails, and some chalk. It builds on first principles with circles as the starting point, shows how to build triangles, perpendicular and parallel lines, squares and more - all with a piece of string and anchor points. If you're interested in proofs or a game that lets you just mess around in a sandbox to do geometric stuff, it's worth looking into.

This might kill this darling yet, but with Aluminum about to be made very cheap and metallurgy having been a very refined skill on Scadrial for a while now, the machined tolerance you mention might be achievable long before rocket engines are for the Scadrians. Well... rather than simply saying it's impossible, I'll try to make a list of problems that would need to be solved without rocketry. The scale we're talking may be hard to grasp. To be clear, I'm talking ICBM range, which at minimum according to the internet is 3,400 miles, distinguishing it from the Intermediate-range ballistic missiles. Measuring the distance to the target Communication with spotters Gun emplacement reinforcement and pivoting Bullet design (surviving hypersonic speeds?) Harmonium propulsion method (particularly if the bullet is not 100% metal) Collateral damage from sonic booms First challenge is measuring the distance from firing emplacement to target without satellite imaging and triangulation so you even know what you're aiming at. This is not easy, particularly if sea travel is involved. Assuming a perfectly spherical Earth-sized planet, an airplane about 6 miles above the ground can see to the horizon a bit over 200 miles away. You'll need really good reference points. Old school methods include geometry with sextants with celestial navigation, using a 6 foot chain stretched across the area (back from the U.S. Land Ordinance Act of 1785, things I learned getting trained as a land surveyor), and using clocks to time how long it took to travel by boat or train and basing it off of the average travel speed, which is as imprecise as it sounds. You almost certainly would need trained surveyors who are willing/able to travel to the enemy continent, make measurements, and survive to send back data. Triangulation will take a lot of travel time, though I guess you'll be handing this job to your spotters. Can't fire a bullet like a missile and dial in the aiming and targeting once the projectile has a visual on the target. There may be blind zones defined by local mountain ranges or if the target is in a valley, as there may be only so high you can lob a shot. Let's just say the math won't be easy. Next, you'll still need some method to get eyes on the target, see the missed shots miles away, and a method to communicate to you. Moving past finding someone suicidal enough to stand down range of the ICBM shotgun, getting timely communication from more than 100 miles is going to be tough since radio operates based on line of sight. Even on the ocean with minimal interference, high powered radio only goes a couple hundred miles. You'll need relays going all the way from your spotters to your firing emplacement. The best relays really are satellites, which loops back to rocketry. A huge amount of work and coordination would be needed to get spotters that could call in missed shots with a drift of miles. Remember that 0.05 degrees I mentioned? Imagine a circle where the center is the pivot point of the gun, with the radius represented by a 10 foot barrel. Moving the tip of the gun barrel 0.10 inches translates to 2.6 miles difference at the target - assuming that there is no interference or drift. This also assumes the weapon is machined far beyond what Ranette has ever had to engineer. The spotter either is guessing which way the drift is making the shot go, or you've setup a whole line of people or instruments along your firing line that is measuring and reporting air speed and direction with all of the delays and calculations that this brings - even then windspeeds can and likely will change after the shot is fired based on how long it will be in the air. Next is that you'll need heavy duty equipment that lets it swivel after being subjected to the forces that is propelling your projectiles. What rockets and railguns have that powder based weapons do not, is that they have an increased timeframe to accelerate their payload which reduces the strain maximum that must be placed on the weapon itself. A rocket doesn't have to go hypersonic to hit a target, the act of bringing its own fuel means it can stretch out the acceleration over the flight time. The recoil for a single impulse weapon with this range is going to be enormous. Material sciences will need to be pretty advanced. Really though, atmosphere is my biggest sticking point. Wind will cause the shot to drift at ranges of just 1 mile, let alone 3,000. The internet has the longest range railgun as firing about Mach 7 with a range of 250 miles with an projectile airtime of 6 minutes. An object traveling hypersonic speeds like Mach 10 without slowdown will take about half an hour to hit a target 3,000 miles away. 30 minutes is a really long time to be affected by wind and drift, and for the target to move based on planetary rotation, let alone use that time to walk your shots. At Mach 5-10, we're in hypersonic territory, and we'll have to upgrade our materials and ammo to stay relatively intact until impact. When I say hypersonic, I'm talking when the object is moving fast enough through the atmosphere that the compression of the air makes the atoms dissociate into plasma, which we probably only think of for spaceship reentry. Spaceships survive this with a combination of insulation, large mass to absorb the heat, active cooling, and ablative armor that is designed to absorb the heat, evaporate, and in the process of evaporating take all of the heat absorbed away from the ship. Requiring a projectile to survive that will need serious engineering, possibly in excess of what is possible today given the relatively small scale. Pretty sure most conventional rounds would heat up and evaporate long before making impact. Okay, maybe a Godmetal breaks enough rules to survive that, but even Godmetals burn in small samples. Something else rocketry adjacent, though not specifically the fuel balancing act you referred to. If we're swapping out the materials in the bullet until it's no longer completely metal (like with ceramics that are used for space ship components), then we have to look at how the Harmonium detonation is accelerating the projectile. Projectiles can get warped or damaged based on how the force is transferred to the projectile, as the back end accelerates into the front end. Harmonium might be able to Push on the entire object simultaneously - if it's metal, otherwise it will like only accelerate the metal and leave everything else behind. Also, don't expect the materials or the process to fabricate them to be cheap - even if the propellant was cheap which it's not. If the goal is to fire the projectile so fast that you don't have to worry about drift time, then you're well in excess of hypersonic speeds, and even with relatively small rounds you're going to have to worry about sonic booms killing people and wrecking structures along your flight path. Mach 10-20 is probably survivable at ground level according to ChatGPT for a ballistic shot, but if you start getting to Mach 30 or higher, then you're running into pressure waves powerful enough to kill. Standing within 50 feet of this thing when fired could be lethal just from the bullet passing by. If anyone has solutions for these, I'd be interested to hear them, as this is fascinating stuff to me. I think I know enough to spot potential problems, but have no idea how to engineer solutions. Same with engineering a satellite to survive being fired out of a cannon and being submitted to acceleration far above what most satellites ever have to survive.

Now this most likely wouldn't be considered a resonance, but we have at least one WoB of how an Allomantic Awakener could potentially pull off stunts unavailable to anyone else so far. BioChroma is the power of life and it follows patterns of life. Just spitballing this, since there's a host of reasons why there could be conflicts and issues, but it wouldn't surprise me if a Feruchemist could place a seed of power into a Metalmind that makes it a valid target for a transfer of Breath (possibly with unknown prep). We learn from Nomad's experiments with Sunhearts that it is much harder to put Investiture into a non-living object, but putting a seed of power into the Sunheart made it a valid target for Commands as if to the living. This might make Awakening metal much, much simpler, though presumably it would still be a Type III BioChromatic entity without sapience, without the necessary core of power that formed Nightblood. The Command might need work too. Again, not what I would consider a Resonance considering Resonances are still a big ol' question mark as far as I'm aware. We can look at possible combos with known powers. Here's some WoBs about Awakened Metalminds. Last one is has a spoiler that I redacted.

Bit late to the party, but I think some assumptions are being made throughout this conversation. Not saying that you're interpretation is wrong, rather that assumptions are being made. As far I can tell, we never hear about Wax's grandfather. There's an assumption that Vwafendal had opportunity to have more children, which may have not been the case depending on when her spouse presumably passed away, or that all of her children survived to a marriageable age. I've also seen multiple threads where people wonder how the Cosmere fits into the Demographic Transition Model (DTM) that often is used to model birth rates and population growth, and most of the time we walk away scratching our heads and left unsure if Brandon is thinking about it and taking it into account or not or if the magic is affecting it. For that matter, with the Terris specifically, marrying in the community might be viewed as traditional, whereas breeding programs or forced large families have a very different cultural history for the Terris stemming from the Final Empire. I'm not an expert in the field, but I think you're severely underplaying just how much calculation has to go into making long distance shots with any degree of accuracy. Snipers at super long distances have to take into account gravity, windspeed, slowdown from air resistance altering the parabola, motion of the target, and rotation of the planet. If you're talking intercontinental distances, you'll need to worry about topography such as mountain ranges, the curvature of the planet, and anything in the way of a relatively straight parabola from shooter to target. When you use a single impulse to propel the projectile to the target there is no opportunity for course correction, you have to get all of the information right the first time with no opportunity to make on-board calculations and course corrections based on atmospheric conditions or changes to target behavior. Beyond that, the shooter will have blind spots based on where on the planet the target is, at least I can't think of a way to hit a target on the other side of the planet with a single kinetic impulse, unless you can shoot through the planet itself - with all of the complications that would bring. I have the sneaking suspicion that rocket science is actually easier than what you're suggesting, since if you can get a missile into orbit and then drop it down via reentry, then the ICBM's starting point is mostly irrelevant, it can travel through the thinner atmosphere and then dive. Figure out a method to guide an orbital missile to a visible surface target, and it should work for pretty much the whole planet - there's much less interference above the atmosphere. Firing a sniper shot that has to travel through the atmosphere (since too high and the shot will just hit escape velocity), and this will dramatically slow the bullet and increase flight time, with all of the atmospheric conditions between the shooter and the target affecting the shot. No course correction, no testing with orbital guidance to a practice target, you have to get the conditions right for that shot - presumably with insanely precise angular targeting at the gun emplacement since a 0.05° horizontal shift when aiming at a target 3,000 miles away (minimum width of the Atlantic Ocean between America and Europe) would translate to about 2.6 miles of deviation at the target. I'd start worrying about heat expansion and vibration totally wrecking accuracy. Material sciences and machined tolerances has to be sufficiently advanced the further out you are aiming and hoping to hit. For the rest of your thought, Malwish airships use Harmonium as fuel. We learn this in BoM. Harmonium already is being consumed in the process, presumably at controllable rates since they are steering based on propellor speeds. My current guess is that for this kind of extension of a Allomantic power, the Harmonium uses itself as fuel, whereas the Allomantic grenades utilize the power stored by the Allomancer. Basically two different applications. It's somewhat as you say, but I don't think they are detonating Harmonium in that process. As for the original post, we know from VenDell that the Terris are hypothesizing and experimenting with the Spiritual quadrant of the Feruchemical Arts. Experimentation requires there to be Ferrings with the associated abilities, otherwise it's just armchair speculation. I think that it's reasonable to assume that there are Spiritual Ferrings in the Terris Conclave during Era 2, though whether Vwafendal is one of those, or if she is merely having a Connector Ferring assist her, is another matter. Such a Connector Ferring may not have been targeting Wax specifically, but may have been intended to encourage all the Terris in the Conclave to feel greater connection to their heritage. They also could just ramp it up whenever any Terrisborn comes back to visit.

Unfortunately, Brandon gave himself wiggle room here, that I don't know if I can confidently say the answer. Annotations state that Alendi was one of the very first Allomancers, and that he Snapped when the Deepness came. The Coppermind also notes that the Mists raised the Allomantic potential of the population at the end of HoA so that 16% of all exposed were Snapped - which was occuring by design, not by happenstance. I'm still not convinced that Allomancy occurs naturally without being directly injected into the population either by the Mists or Lerasium. I'm not even sure if we know how many cycles the Well of Ascension refilled and if the Mists came to Snap the people each time and if the rare Allomancers in the Classical Era were vestiges from an even earlier Deepness.

If we're still on the subject of how children gain their Investiture, I would guess is that the mechanism is more mundane but incredibly complex to extrapolate or predict. I think it's the same as prenatal development and genetics IRL, particularly if you're talking about immigrants who are moving to a new country or even a new continent. The human body regenerates itself by eating matter, generally acquired locally but not always, and incorporating the matter into its body by using mass to propagate cells, and it procreates with similar mechanisms. The power of Ruin and Preservation isn't tied just into the people, but of the very substance of the world - to a certain extent every time a Scadrian eats food they are ingesting a small bit of Ruin and Preservation. The parents' DNA/sDNA absolutely affect the child and their predisposition for genetic abilities, but it is the mother that consumes and provides the nutrients that builds up the body and presumably the spiritweb of the child. Any diseases, substances, stressors, etc. affecting the mother in turn are factors in how the child develops. I learned from a career NICU nurse that newborns who are suffering drug withdrawals have a distinctive cry and distress now that they are no longer receiving the drugs passed from the mother. Same as when child birth weights vary by country due to nutrition available to the parents. Environmental factors like air quality. Whether or not the mother gets the shot with the slew of vaccinations targeting the infant during labor. All affect development, not just genetics - though genetics is probably the biggest factor. As for Allomancy and Feruchemy genetics, this is not meant to be derogatory in any manner, but I would think of it as starting with a purebred prize dog or horse. Generally the breeder worked hard to select for very specific genes and traits and the pedigree of the progeny influences the likelihood of the offspring bearing the same trait. Dilution of that trait into the community is probable - particularly since the phenotype of allomancy may be less noticeable than say the color of hair. During the days of the final empire, Allomancy may have been passed on through Allomantic Gnat nobility who may have believed that they didn't need to follow the same restrictions as their Misting siblings or cousins. Another way of looking at this - is the immigrant fully integrated into the diet, culture and lifestyle of the new land, or are they insular, preferring to cultivate the foods and diet of their own land when possible, rejecting foreign influence? They probably can't escape difference in soil type when cultivating crops, but they can slow the integration. From this, I think there is something to the Terris working to condense Feruchemical bloodlines in Era 2 with isolationist practices. Brandon's probably added another layer to sDNA, but IRL DNA and prenatal development is incredibly complicated as it is. I doubt it would have distinguishable units of Shardic influence, since genetics is waaay more complicated than simple math. For that matter, some genes get triggered by environment, so... yeah. Maybe you can't Snap off of Scadrial without the right environmental conditions. I doubt it, because Skaa were a thing - unless you're talking about intermarriage through a couple of generations. Allomancy requires a minimum threshold to manifest - though it is worth noting that Wax as a very weak Mistborn with augmented A-Steel could use the other metals even in a weakened form. Wonder if that's a factor of Lerasium or that he had already Snapped as a full Misting at the lower threshold set by Harmony.

Yup, I second @Trusk'our. If they obtained sufficient Breath to be Immortal, either legitimately or otherwise, odds are they are wealthy or influencial enough to have a target painted on them anyway - and the resources to protect themselves. Beyond that, they are Awakeners of at least the 5th Heightening with 2,000+ Breaths. They'll have perfect Lifesense and can Awaken objects to enhance or protect themselves. Depending on how long they live, they will have a supernatural amount of time to practice fighting and Awakening like Vasher - if they so choose. Sure, Vasher risked his Breath a lot more than most, but if they are the type to implement decade or century long schemes, they'll probably be pragmatic about self-preservation. If they don't want to fight themselves, then equipped bodyguards or Lifeless.

Well... I did some more poking around and it somewhat depends on how similar Harmonium is to cesium. Cesium is one of the alkaline metals and like all alkalines reacts quite readily to acids - such as the hydrocholric acid in human stomachs. I got this from ChatGPT so take it with a grain of salt, but the energy released from dropping 1 gram of cesium reacting with water will produce around 3-4 kilojoules of energy. This is a fair bit more than the 1.2 kj if you were to drop it into hydrochloric acid, but it's still a significantly exothermic reaction. Again, it depends on how close the reaction is to cesium, but alkali metals explode in water not just because of the bonds broken and formed, but because the byproduct is hydrogen gas right next a high heat source. Again, accoring to ChatGPT, if you had a stoichiometrically balanced proportion of cesium and water, the volume of products would increase by 124,334% as it gets converted to cesium hydroxide and hydrogen gas. Now this is for water reactions, cesium reacting to hydrochloric acid will still produce hydrogen case but at a greatly reduced ratio, actually reducing volume by around 50%. Neither of those sounds particularly pleasant. That's for cesium where Harmonium has been described as a "super cesium". Beyond this it's just extrapolation. I didn't say everything on that list was a good idea, since most have a very poor testing options.

We've theorized about this about a year ago here. Ideas included: Coating it in a non-allomantic metal Sticking a tube down the throat and trying to just... slide the Harmonium into the stomach and hoping you could burn it before it hits anything that would make it react. What seemed to be the simplest and safest testable method is to put the Harmonium in a dietary supplement oil-filled gelatin capsule. The thickness of the gelatin determines how long it takes to get released into the digestives system, so a thick enough coating at it may be able to pass all the way through the digestive tract without breaking down. Have a Misting eat a capsule with a non-reactive metal and see if they can burn it before it passes all the way through the system - if they can, you're good to go, if they can't, don't risk it. It should be straightforward if messy to confirm if/when a gelatin capsule avoids full dissolution. The last option should work for the enteric coating you suggested @Light In the Darkness, make the coating thick enough that it is guaranteed to pass all the way through the system, test with a non-lethal metal, and go from there. The real question is how many layers of isolation from the stomach is acceptable for the Spiritweb to be able to utilize the metal. Burning Harmonium is almost certainly a huge RAFO.

Let's see... The somewhat cheater answer is that F-Gold allowed Miles to survive setting off dynamite in his hand, so anything below that threshold of energy is confirmed surviveable - at least with F-Gold. Where it starts getting complicated is in the details for if you don't have access to supernatural regeneration, or if you only have access to a single Feruchemical ability as a Ferring. Take sitting in a fire or in molten lava for example. Heat isn't the only health risk there, they may be sitting in an oxygen reduced environment breathing in ash, soot, and any toxic gases that that are a product of the heat source. A Cadmiummind would probably also be necessary. Sure the pre-Catecendre Scadrians were adapted to ash, but I'm not sure if they are now. Surviving on the sun is right out - not just because of the oxygen deprivation, but because the atmospheric pressure at the photosphere is about 10 orders of magnitude above the earth's atmosphere at the surface level. Local gravity would be about 28 times higher than the Earth - depending on where you say that you are "standing" since there isn't really a surface to the sun. No breathable atmosphere, nothing to stand on, getting constantly crushed, and probably no realistic way to generate significant motion, and even if they just let your Metalminds max out or die, you're still stuck. There will be other complications with extreme environments. Low temperatures for example have greatly reduced relative humidity as the air can't hold the water molecules in suspension. I think this would accelerate dehydration, but I don't know by how much. In a location like the arctic they could melt snow pretty readily, but in desert locations it can get very cold and dry at night. Take the moon or another environment without atmospheric pressure. On the moon without an artificial atmosphere, liquids in the body will boil without the external pressure to keep the body intact. Beyond that, without an atmosphere the temperature becomes very difficult to regulate. You get high extremes as in direct sunlight the surface of the Moon can get to 127 C, in the shade it rapidly drops to -173 C. Even with full body heating/cooling by Brassmind, the temperature will be localized, not generalized. Even with a Cadmiummind and Brassmind, Feruchemy is specific enough that it probably isn't a replacement for a spacesuit for an EVA. TSM spoiler: Extreme condition on the surface of Earth? They'd probably do well with most things. The thing is if you dump enough Investiture into a person, it has a tendency to help them survive, something to do with (TSM quote) So, I'm not quite sure where the lines really are. Feruchemy has more control than Allomancy, with one of the cited examples that A-Tin grants full and generalized sensory enhancement whereas Feruchemy allows the user to break down the senses into components. Using only a Brassmind to survive someone pouring lava on one side and liquid nitrogen on the other may be a stretch.

If I'm reading this correctly, simply have a rep specific to each thread? That seems plausible. If they can make custom reactions, then I suspect that they could even make different rep reactions that look the same on the front end but are counted separately on the back end. I thought about it over night, and I have a couple more ways to look at this, but it's very dependent on the capability on the back end. Let's see if I can more throughly elaborate on some of the positive use cases and perhaps ways they could be optimized. For the categories that directly contribute to forum function, such as this one, post count and reputation is a simplified way of highlighting literal time and effort that a given member has put into making the site work better. This is a place where aggregating user rep earned is highlighting the work they are putting in. I'm sure many members on the forum aren't aware of just how much time and work go into making 17th Shard work. I would definitely appreciate something that distinguishes between the main Cosmere discussion category and the Spoiler zone. Most of the top posts on the leader board last I checked sure look like spoiler period stuff, but because it only has the thread name and a snippet of the post, I have to guess when to stop reading. Within the Cosmere board, it seems that what is highlighted above the rest is what is particularly insightful and creative - particularly if you get above 5-6 rep. Here, I wouldn't mind individual posts pulled out and highlight because it is the content itself and the insight someone made that feels notable. Plain cool things like the model of Vin traveling by horseshoe are definitely worth highlighting for fans - in fact I kind of wish we had an archive of posts like this, even if it was getting permission to put a link to the thread in the Coppermind. Where "top posts" within a specific thread is particularly useful is for threads with hundreds of pages like the meme thread or "YKYASFW" where there is relatively little chronological importance. We'd lose that without reputation, and there's no way I would go through that many pages without highlights. Again, not having stepped foot into the RP zone, but it seems like that is an area that could really benefit with a full range of reactions and emotes. Seems odd to give a big ol' heart to the player that just majestically orchestrated your demise. Because role playing is colaborative story telling, I think it may be more beneficial to highlight specific threads that worked really well, rather than individual members or posts. An off the cuff idea that I have with no idea if it is possible on the back end is this: Remove leaderboard and top posts from the RP zones because I'd guess the most awesome posts are awesome in the context of the narrative, not pulled out of isolation. Add in a bunch of other reactions than just the heart, possibly thematically appropriate or emotional reactions Remove reaction limits for the RP zone Display aggregates of each type of rep for the whole thread, rather than highlighting posts. In this case we can highlight the threads themselves that have high engagement or emotional arcs. It may also let new players decide if they want to jump in if the the major reaction to the thread as a whole is , , , , . or. Rather than highlighting individual actors within the role play or individual posts, it highlights the threads, story environments, and group as a whole. Really though, someone who has been in that section should tell me if this is a good idea or not. What I'm not sure on is if titles should still track it even if the rep limit is removed. I have the sneaking suspicion that the members on the RP thread are the ones who will take particular delight to rising to become a Dragon or Shard. I'd guess the members like me that dwell primarily in the discussion boards will be just fine with gaining rep much more slowly. In summary, I think there are legimate reasons for the community to react to and highlight individual posts, but in summary it could work better if it was highlighting what was valued in each category, be it individual posts, member contributions, or threads as a whole. If I was had time, and I knew which of the RP threads had really cool stories, then I might browse them to simply enjoy the stories others are telling, but I'm unlikely to do that with what I see on the outset.

In addition to what Trusk'our has said, a lot of people have theorized about reforming Adonalsium and have asked Brandon at various signings. To paraphrase Brandon said at a very recent signing this past April, using power and abilities derived from Adonalsium to reassemble Adonalisum is more complicated that we might assume. A natural continuation of this idea is that perhaps the tools and abilities used to shatter Adonalsium in the first place could be brought to bear to reassemble Adonalsium, right? I'm not sure because it's much easier to make a machine that can blow itself up than one that can reassemble after having destroyed itself - if it could it would probably have needed to be designed from the beginning with that functionality. It's way easier to set a log on fire and create ash than it is to reassemble ash back into a log. At any rate, a lot of us have theorized over the years, but knowing Brandon if it is possible and is planned, he's going to reserve at least one key bit of information for the book that it occurs. It's how he can answer so many questions and still surprise us. Welcome to 17th Shard, @benothy! Join us as we ask and debate questions like these.

Hum. I totally missed this thread at the creation and height of engagement. My two cents is that it may be worth exploring more into how reputation is used and perceived. Maybe we can maximize the positive use cases and distinguish the mechanics? Reputation uses: Highlight community favorites Leaderboard Simply scrolling through a thread and looking for top comments Longer threads already highlight top comments For certain discussion it serves as an informal poll between ideas. For example, Coppermind threads where people debate whether or not to make a specific article or not. Express acknowledgement of a concept or message. I assume that this will be more the case where there is a clear and distinct person likely to have given the rep, either by outright stating it as such, or when there is likely only a single person that it is aimed towards such as status updates. Incentivization For some it's getting the cool new title. Previous comments have suggested making the titles time based - and the thing is to a certain extent they are. There's an average max of reputation per day that someone is likely to get, simply based on user traffic and reputation granting limitations. If you post consistently, eventually you'll rise in titles. I think it can encourage insightful commentary along with good community interaction - from what I've seen the community has consistently let it be known that behaviors like aggression or derogotory remarks are not appreciated. People who go out of their way to think of cool ideas, provide sources and citations, etc. are encouraged to continue. Like with any other reward system, it can be taken to unhealthy extremes, but that's just how the full range of human behavior works. It's kind of an unfortunate but unavoidable circumstance where yes, a huge amount of advertising and marketing strategies can make life very difficult for a food addict, but it's not like the rest of the world can stop eating in front of them. Welcoming new members. I think rep can be a way to easily make them feel like the community recognizes that they are there. The dangerous inverse of course is if a new member makes a couple dozen posts and no one gives any rep. At any rate, early on it is a way for new members to feel like they have been seen or made a contribution I think. As others have mentioned, there are marked differences in how reputation is used and perceived between the different parts of the site. Discussion boards, community boatds, status updates, and site mechanics (like the Coppermind) to my eyes seem to naturally use reputation slightly differently. There's an implicit reason attached when reputation is used in each of those areas. No idea if this is plausible on the website back end, but I personally would like a break down of top posts by major board category. I wouldn't mind if a top contributor was acknowledged for the 17th Shard category, because they are directly helping the site and community function better - and I'm happy if they are directly acknowledged for their contribution. For similar reasons I wouldn't mind seeing the top posts in the discussion category because people make some really cool insights that expands the way I view the topic. I've barely set foot in the RP section, so I'd let someone who frequents those parts state what they would find useful if highlighted by the community. For better or worse, sometimes I don't have time to read through page after page of a thread that exploded since I was last on, and looking for upvoted comments is how I decide which parts to read when I'm short on time. Not always the best way to do it, and I'm sure I've accidentally excluded people out of discussions, but sometimes I'll still end up 5 posts behind a comment simply because it takes me that long to compose a reply and others continued the conversation. All in all, I think there's room for improvement, in large measure because having a global system to highlight community favorites can and will be heavily skewed because reputation doesn't actually mean the same thing in each category it's used. RP and status updates may be a popularity contest, but I'd be fine if people are acknowledge for contributions to the community for things like typo threads or 17th Shard discussion.

How much of the Cosmere have you read? Spoilers for the greater Cosmere. To summarize outside of the spoiler box, we have no idea of what can't be done with the Dawnshards rather than specifics of what can be done - other than acting in opposition with the Command of the specific Dawnshard. With destruction of planets and the Shattering of Adonalsium on the confirmed list, making an Essence Mark permanent is much, much lower power scale. Beyond that, if you throw enough Investiture at anything, you can force a lot of things to work. For the Essence Mark, it probably depends on what it's trying to do.

Well... I'm a bit iffy whether or not to say this, but I think you may have overreacted a bit @Treamayne with your first response. I did not see any implication from the OP that Kaladin needed to be "fixed" or that a slap was intended for the Aro community. It's just another shipping question from a new member. For that matter, Brandon has said he hasn't taken a Kaladin romance off the table yet. The term "aromantic" does not appear in any WoB to date. I'll also note that thus far, Kaladin himself has seemed to pursue relationships, though there has been a considerable pressure from Adolin, Shallan, Syl, and Hesina for Kaladin to get into a relationship, at least since Lyn. This isn't to say that a Kaldin romance is for sure in the future, rather Brandon has intentionally left his future relationship status open for debate. Honestly, this is where in IRL if I had the right relationship where I would just ask the person if they were seeking a relationship and would welcome me or others introducing them to people I think they would click with. I have dear family members that would love to get married but have been single for decades where nothing worked out, and sometimes I think they've just given up on trying because it's painful. I also have dear family members that haven't ever seemed to want that kind of relationship and have been perfectly content to remain single, though they've never told me if they are Aro or not. I'm going to ask rather than assume when it comes to setting them up or not. This is a divergent topic from whether or not a potential Kaladin romance should be with Syl. I honestly don't know Brandon's plans for representation - full Cosmere spoilers: Again, I'm not actually stating my opinion on likelihood or what I actually would prefer, but I think Brandon's already done weirder than Syladin.

I'm not sure what you've read yet, so I'll just put this as larger Cosmere spoilers. This is mostly a commentary on mechanics. Yes, Syl can become humanoid and interact with Kaladin to varying degrees. We've seen at least two methods, and an incomplete third. Mechanically, it's possible, which is separate from discussing if it is probable. Same for whether or not it's possible for a spren to become a love interest. From a literary standpoint, people have formed romantic attachments to entities with far less personality and interactability than Syl. Kaladin's viewpoint in WoK (The Way of Kings) personified the spear as a tempting familiar lover. Again, possible is separate from probable.

I agree that Emotional Allomancy will not become obsolete, but there's a number of directions I think it could jump based on technological, allomantic, and social contraints that have not yet developed on Scadrial. I expect we will see trends throughout the history of Scadrial, but I have no ideal how it will settle out in Era 3 or Era 4. Let's start with what we've already seen, in part because Scadrial's historical accounts will inform Scadrian behavior and policy. In Era 1, it was well known by the Skaa underground that Ministry obligators were specially trained to recognize when their emotions had been manipulated - this is how the Steel Inquisitors began hunting Vin. TLR's Soothing stations setup with both Soother and Smoker dispersed throughout Luthadel to suppress the skaa that were never externally detected - Marsh had to be introduced to them for Kelsier's crew to know about them. We see Breeze raise an army for Kelsier by using precise and calculated Soothing to reinforce memories with emotional weight that would persist long after he stopped Soothing them. There of course is the flaw to the Kandra and Koloss. In Era 2 we see the advent of aluminum hats by both the constabulary and criminal organizations. Soothing parlors have been established that require mandated aluminum shielding to prevent emotional pollution to the adjacent buildings and street. Wax caught at least one taxi service that was illegally uses Rioters to encourage pedestrians to choose to use their service rather than risk walking during the riots of SoS. During Governor Innate Melaan's speech, the constabulary was present and watching for assassins, but Marasi had to identify the Set allomancers influencing the crowd's emotions on a large scale level and alert the other constables. Clearly some issues were still seen. Here are factors that as far as I know we have not yet seen that will play into how emotional allomancy is utilized and controlled. Historically it has been difficult for the governing body to identify illegal emotional Allomancy particularly when used in conjunction with Copperclouds. It requires specialized training and consistent awareness to recognize when personal emotions have been altered, and even career constables have been caught unawares. Generally other factors expose the allomancy, such as Marasi's large scale observation of crowd behavior or Wax overhearing a Coinshot courier's report and deducing the employment of the Rioters, not the Allomancers themselves. In essence, it asks the question of how effective the governing body is at policing unsolicited emotional alteration. Additional notes: I could see an employment opportunity for Windwhisperers, or blind or deaf inspectors who may be able to more effectively isolate generalized emotional allomancy from people who may be influenced by whatever the Allomancer is hoping to reinforce. A deaf person walking past a rousing speech is unlikely to hit the same emotional cues the hearing audience would experience. I had a neighbor that served in the Vietnam war that was tasked with idenfying enemy tanks in a jungle from aerial images because he was colorblind and could identify the shape of the tanks without being distracted by the camoflage coloration. It's worth noting that as Trellium reacts to Allomancy, they have a method to mechanically detect Allomancy, including emotional Allomancy, but the range or specificity remains to be seen. A response to a Coppercloud may look the same as a Soother. I don't think there has been a confirmed documented case post Catacendre of emotional allomancy pushing a victim to commit a crime or being injured as a result of emotional Allomancy. The extent that this is possible I don't think has been explored yet, nor do I know if this would generally be more of a risk with an exceptionally strong Allomancer or emotionally compromised target (young, mental health, etc. The degree that emotional Allomancy enables this will affect public perception and influence regulation. Let's make a hypothetical example. A gym decides to hire a Rioter to boost the confidence and reduce the fatigue of members. A weightlifter gets overconfident and significantly injures themselves by trying to lift more than their body could handle. Should the gym and RIoter be held liable? What about exhaustion or overwork after leaving the gym and no longer being under the effects of the Rioter? The next question is the adjacency of emotional Allomancy to IRL strategies already utilized. A bakery venting the aroma from their kitchen to the street or an advertising billboard with a 12' tall image of a spider next to a pest control ad are designed to provoke a visceral response of hunger, anxiety, or fear. What makes emotional Allomancy different is that it has it doesn't have a natural signature or immediately recognizeable source for the general population. In the case of the taxi service, they were using Rioters to increase fear and anxiety without overtly advertising that they were doing so. Subliminal or anonymized influence is much easier with Allomancy, which also makes it somewhat easier to be used maliciously or against the public wellbeing. Let's also talk about overspill. Back in era 2 they lined Soothing parlors with aluminum to minimize emotional pollution into the public - but this was before radio had really taken off with wifi, cellphones, and the host of communication methods that are disrupted by metal shielding. Depending on how blanket emotional allomancy "moves", windows may or may not be viable in buildings that require aluminum shielding for quite some time (we've figured out how to make aluminum oxynitride into a optically transparent glass-like ceramic for windows, but it's extremely expensive to make. It's at least 5 times more expensive than conventional glass). I think in our current era with wifi and wifi enabled phone calls, we could circumvent the issue of shielded buildings with wifi routers installed within the space, but it would require quite a few additional costs. Next, desired applications. We've already seen Soothing parlors, I've mentioned gyms, and hwiles has talked about offices. Emotional Allomancy could be used to enhance movies or theatrical productions, and therapy. Because it can enhance so many experiences, it likely will never go away, but there's a distinction between voluntarily asking to be Soothed or Rioted, and involuntary manipulation. Long block of text, but I expect there to be phases as technology and society hammer out what is acceptable. It also will be relevant if wearing aluminum hats can hinder people in the Cognitive Realm from gaining insights or influencing people in the PR. I expect tinfoil lined hats to stick around just like RFID blocking wallets - but because there's an additional cost to indulge paranoia, it may or may not be used by the general public.

Hm... favorite small moments... for me it's hard to distinguish what are small moments because they're my favorites and become larger and more important in my mind. There almost certaiinly will be things I list off that others don't think are small moments. Mistborn Era 1 TFE: When Kelsier takes Vin to visit the Skaa not as a recruitment drive, but simply to raise hope and as a break from the more dangerous parts of his work. WoA: Vin's talk with Dox when she's investigating the possible Kandra in the crew, when Dox comes to the conclusion that not all nobles are monstrous, that perhaps he had been the monster. HoA: I have more memories from SH than HoA. Perhaps Vin and Elend actually getting a brief dance when crashing Yomen's party. SH: This novella is short enough that I don't know what qualifies as a small moment as the prose has to do heavier lifting. Possibly when Preservation is mourning the deaths of so many people and Kelsier learns that Leras knows each of them as close friends, as intimately as Kelsier knew Dox. Mistborn Era 2 AoL: Knee-jerk response, Wayne telling Marasi his history while investigating the first Vanisher hideout. Ranette giving the rundown on her Hazekiller rounds. SoS: This took me longer, I tend to reread the other books in the series. Maybe Wayne and MeLaan discussing accents. BoM: Checking into the hotel. That scene would make no sense if you didn't already know the characters, and that's the viewpoint we get from the hotel owner. That and Wax and Steris trying to redefine their marriage contract while on the train. TLM: Wax and Wayne sitting on the billboard to take a breather. Not a small moment either, but Wayne talking down the army in the Set-occupied tower. The little moment when storming the tower when Wax asks Harmony to not make him do this again, because Harmony doesn't know what it feels like - and receives Sazed's memory of the Koloss invasion of Luthadel. Stormlight Archive WoK: Probably nothing leading up to the Tower is small, and this one is ironically not "small", but the brief period when Syl appears human-sized and looks on in horror at Dalinar's doomed army. Syl's innocent sorrow ripped aside all of the calluses that Kaladin had grown trying to keep Bridge Four alive from both Parshendi and Sadeas and every time he had failed to protect. Also, may not be a small moment, but when Dalinar and Navani talk near the end where Dalinar describes himself as a man of extremes where he tries to explain why he dedicated himself to first Gavilar and then the Codes. That or Dalinar pondering while he uses his Shards to dig a latrine. WoR: Kaladin trying to reach out to and listen to Rlain back when they just called him Shen. Kaladin models some of the best people and leaders I've known. Oathbringer: Dalinar and Navani listening to the Stormfather tell the history of the Heralds and Taln in particular. I find the whole flashback chapter where Dalinar casually goes out into a highstorm to look for his belt knife during a feast to be hilarious. In the way people view him and how he casually goes about his life, you really see how Dalinar is a good match for the Highstorm that will just blow people down if they aren't prepared. Lopen teaching one-handed tricks to the newly one-armed soldier after the battle of Thaylen City. Also not small, but Taln's brief moments of lucidity. RoW: Again, probably not small, but the Dog and the Dragon. The tone shift when Teft wakes up during the occupation of Urithiru. When Lirin goes out and tries to learn how the people of Urithiru view Kaladin - and Hesina's trust that he would see it. Elantris: The bit of peace when Sarene lives in Elantris with Raoden and the other Elantrians. Galladon and Raoden talking about the one thing they would bring from outside Elantris if they could. Warbreaker Vivenna and Vasher rescuing Nanrovah's daughter - less watching Vasher beat people up, more seeing his reaction to a caged child and what Vivenna learns about him. Vivenna talking to Vasher about how confused she is regarding Denth's betrayal. Tress Basically every time that Tress decides to think about her actions, not jump to conclusions, and reevaluate the way she thinks of people. Tress choosing to protect the crew of the Crow's Song Yumi Painter realizing some of the challenges that Liyun faces as the caretaker of the yoki-hijo. It's not easy to try to understand someone you hate or clash with or why they are the way they are. Akane choosing to check in on Painter and his "sister" despite her rocky history with Painter. Coatrack. That's plenty to start with. Interesting. Now that I've written most of these out, my favorite moments often seem to fit into two categories. First, the moment when people learn something about themselves or another person that recontextualizes how they understand that person. These conversations fascinate me. Second, is seeing people taking a break from the high stakes conflicts pressed upon them directly related to the plot, basically the characters trying to balance the vitally important responsibilities with restful activities. If I had to add a third, it's just flat out hilarious moments.

So... to use weight lifting terminology, it's as if your 1 repetition max (1RM) can suddenly be pumped out continuously? The maximum strength isn't actually raised, but it's called a 1 rep max for a reason because of how much energy it uses in a single motion - internet had people who ended up sore and exhausted for up to 3 days after setting their 1RM. I'm not a weightlifter, but the National Academy of Sports Medicine (NASM) 1RM calculator on the internet suggests that if someone can bench press 200 lbs (90.7 kg) for 10 reps, they could potentially do a 1RM of 265 lbs (120.2 kg). That's 32.5% higher than a repeatable lift. With Stormlight healing and directly fueling oxygen and caloric needs to allow someone to work at that peak strength continuously, that seems plausible. I'd agree that with the perceived result is that yes, Stormlight can let you hit harder and faster, but the mechanism may not be just straight force enhancement. As an addendum, while looking up stuff about bench presses, the world record has a couple of major categories because specialized shirts that stabilized the shoulders were invented and allowed for nearly double the record without equipment. The record without is a bit over 700 lbs in a drug-tested competition lift, the current record with a shirt and not with a drug-test is 1,401 lbs. It's been noted that Renarin has abnormally fast healing considering he basically ignored getting squashed by a Thunderclast, but Stormlight healing may be able to stabilize some of the smaller muscles, tendons, and ligaments. For the record, since it hasn't been posted here yet as far as I've seen, per WoB, A-Pewter roughly doubles strength at a regular burn, triples at a flare. Point, I retract that suggestion, though I wouldn't discount someone from Dragonsteel throwing us a bone if they knew how long it has been discussed for.

Just saying... if you're debating this for 3 years and hundreds if not thousands of words, just ask Brandon for a WoB. This doesn't seem like RAFO territory. Bridge Four consistently believes that they are not significantly stronger, even after Sigzil's gauntlet of tests complete with baselines to try to quantify and measure the extent that Stormlight and Lashings enhance the Windrunners. I'm going to just assume that the exception is in the specific scenario that seems to disprove it, rather than assuming Brandon is wrong or pulling a fast one on us. Yes, he totally would do that to us, but I don't see why this would be one of those times. I also have a hard time believing that no one in Dragonsteel has pointed it out if it is an error by SA4, considering his plethora of early readers includes members of 17th Shard who read debates like these, and have done so for years. With that Stormform scenario, as noted by alder24, Kaladin also was grabbing the Stormform's arm, with no further explanation for location. Was that the wrist, forearm, upper arm? Leverage will make a huge difference, particularly if he is using a fully extended arm to brace against the Stormform's upper arm as they are holding an axe above their head. Beyond that, has anyone pitched the idea that when Kaladin got electrocuted his muscles spasmed from the shock, considering it stunned him? In my opinion, there's enough uncertainty in the factors of this scenario that I would lean towards what is repeatedly stated as what the characters believe.

I'm not sure if we have anything concrete, but I can give you speculation. Full Cosmere spoilers, including SotD2 reading , since I'm not sure how much of the Cosmere you've read:

Ah, perhaps I miswrote. The poll was never about conclusively deciding anything, it was to facilitate a better understanding among participants in the conversation. It was trying to create greater transparency. Beyond that, I fully recognize that I have very little control over how any other person on this forum acts or thinks, but I can also hope that someone has good ideas on how we can develop better frameworks for deep conversations on complex topics - if indeed that is what the forum values, which seems likely from the poll. In many ways, the poll is to give everyone a better understanding of the largely anonymous person behind the username and pfp. In other words, while quoting you: I expect we have a greater understanding of Moash than our understanding of the other general members on this forum. The purpose of the thread is to raise that understanding of the other person - particularly when we disagree vehemently. I hope some of the really smart people on this forum will pull out insights that I can't. Edit: wow, that didn't come out the way I had intended. Above section rephrased with italicized.

I decided somewhat arbitrarily to wait over the weekend from when I made the poll before I made any response. This was in part because I wanted to see what people had to say, in part because I know the first voice can sometimes get abnormal weight. @Treamayne, thanks for the grammar check. If it's okay with you, I'll probably hold off on the option "people who comment to add book/WoB citations", since that's just more about being a friendly and helpful member of the community like you often are, and less about Moash himself. Interesting. Within 24 hours after opening the poll, there was already a visible disparity between why people think others post, and why they themselves post. I'm sure people noticed the echo between the poll questions, and yes, that was intentional. I was curious if in general we were missing why others might post about Moash, and it looks like at some level I was right in that I was wrong with my guesses- at the time of this post, one third of the responders said that I missed the reason that they chose to talk about Moash. I haven't figured out a way to let people retake the poll, so options I added later will be significantly underrepresented. If I haven't added your reason to the poll, and you want me to, please DM or tag me with the poll question. I want to get the wording right. Hopefully no staff member will mind me creating a new poll in about a week or two, with the new questions. -- Oh, perhaps I should say this before I go any further. Does anyone mind if I do a little social experiment with these polls, where in a week or two I'll post a new poll with the original questions along with all additions and see if the trends changed at all? I figure there's a decent chance that this is far enough down the thread that people are likely to vote on the poll before they read this. I'm curious if discussing the why of why we choose to talk about Moash actually expands and changes if not our views on Moash, then at least our views on the other members of the conversation, or if most of us walk away from this largely the same. Anyone interested? Anyone against? -- On to my response to the discussion here. I debated with myself on whether or not to write a mini essay on cautionary stories and common responses I've seen, but for the moment, I think I'll stick to "why we debate Moash" along with my guesses as to the causes of friction and arguments. First, I think an obvious friction point is that because Moash feels real to many people, but not all, at some level many are conflating him with IRL circumstances, people, issues, etc.. I don't think that this is a problem in of itself, as many others have noted in this thread, great literature often will make us think about how the themes apply in real life. Where it can cause friction is that this means not everyone is viewing Moash within the same context. Either not all have decided to conflate him with IRL issues, or we all have different IRL experiences that inform the way we view these issues. Obvious statements perhaps, but I think worth remembering and occasionally asking for clarifying questions. In my experience, most people on the forum are quite reasonable, it's that I miss something and don't bother to ask clarifying questions before responding to something that seems off to me. Second, is that within the context of justice and mercy, just this topic alone would be very difficult to come to consensus - particularly if it's blended with IRL philosophy, law, and religion, and not viewed strictly within the context of Roshar (which would be similarly difficult). I've also noticed what seems to be difficult to define factors in those discussion - namely the timeframe and actionability of the proposed justice or mercy. Another way of phrasing this is that law enforcement typically has varying response protocols when attempting to apprehend a suspect based on if they are armed or not, if they are actively resisting arrest or not, or if there are bystanders at risk or not - to try to reduce the risk of loss of life for all parties involved. I'll divide the thoughts a bit: When looking at mercy and giving Moash a chance at redemption, where does that fit in if he is actively trying to kill someone or push Kaladin toward suicide? Is that asking Kaladin or maybe Renarin, who has defensive and regenerative capabilities far beyond any IRL law enforcement agency, to try to talk him down again? When looking at justice, noting out that we have hugely unrealistic insights into Moash's internal thoughts, in addition to challenges of establishing culpability for one who has had been warped by Odium, comes questions of how the proposed justice would be enacted and by whom? Does it change if he has given up his Honorblade and is surrendering? If you wish Braise upon him, who would you ask to be his jailers? Unless you're offering suggestions to a possible analog to Dante's Inferno or Hades of Greek mythology who dolled out eternal punishments on the likes of Sisyphus. I'm not sure if one is ever mentioned for Roshar, beyond Braise itself, and we know a bit more about how that place works/doesn't work. That said, it also seems likely that certain suggestions for Moash's fate were stated to get laughs, not in seriousness - but it may not have been received as such from people who believe in an afterlife judgement and took the comment at face value. Really though, my point is not to reignite one of those debates right here and now, but rather that it seemed that not everyone was visualizing the same circumstance or had necesarily expanded on the possible ramifications of what they proposed. Considering how difficult it is to define the scenario in the vs threads, don't be surprised if we have even more difficulty with emotionally charged scenarios like this one. Some might be answering as if Moash is coaxing Kaladin to suicide, some might be answering as if he's sitting blinded as last we saw him. Lastly, at least in the context of Moash, I am not very good at guessing the core motive of why the other person is posting about Moash. I tried to guess the likely reasons people posted about Moash were, but I apparently didn't even touch the reason for a third of all the people who responded to the poll. That apparently means that for at least one out of every three people that posted about Moash, I didn't understand why they did it, didn't even get it in my top 7 guesses. I hope to find out these reasons, otherwise I'm unlikely to expand my understanding of people like Moash, how to deal with people like Moash, the conversation, or you my peers. All of these I find far more valuable than nailing down what Moash as a single fictional individual deserves.