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15 minutes ago, Truthwatcher_17.5 said:

It’s important to remember that they’re not contending with just the storm. Often a high storm can hurl boulders around. It would be very expensive to protect an entire building from that eventuality, so they build the entire thing to withstand just the storm and a few safer places that can withstand a 300 pound rock hitting it.

That’s a pretty fair explanation I suppose 

3 minutes ago, Karger said:

The pinnacle is probably be oriented the wrong way.  Remember, highstroms always come from the same direction so there is no reason to brace them from the other side.  An underground bunker might make more sense under the circumstances.

The king stays in the highest tower, which would make it seem like it would make sense that the rest of the building is safe. And I know it’s cut into the rock, but why put in the effort to make the place out of stone if it isn’t secure in a storm? It’s not like the building collapses every storm

@Karger, I think you are missing my point. I’m confused that people inside the Pinnacle or a giant stone library can’t wander the building in a storm and have to go to a secure bunker. Are these super important buildings not sturdy?

36 minutes ago, Karger said:

It is possible that Storms vary in strength.  Additionally few things in homes are more fragile or valuable then human beings so it makes sense to use an extra layer of protection.

But the Pinnacle in the Shattered Plains? Or in Yeddaw?

So during highstorms, do folks have to go to specific parts of buildings? They talk about buildings being abandoned during storms and people being confined a lot, but so many are stone you’d think they were safe to move around in. 

I've always been a fan of Harmony and Honor.  I've been a martial artist for a huge chunk of my life and those two shards really resonate (no pun intended) with that.  I love the balance that Harmony provides, keeping you walking the path between Ruin and Preservation, destroying and saving.  I love Honor because I often feel that keeping our words/oaths is what makes us better people.  Not necessarily some of the traditional ideas of honor where like you'd fight someone to defend your honor, but how you honor your word, or honor your friends and loved ones

11 hours ago, Weltall said:

Pssst!

 

My bad.  Must have missed that one. Thanks for the heads up

Oathbringer spoilinger

On ‎5‎/‎28‎/‎2019 at 3:30 PM, Weltall said:

The Nightwatcher is not a Cognitive Shadow but a Splinter that's associated with Cultivation in a somewhat similar manner that the Stormfather is associated with Honor, but she can't be a CS of Cultivation because Cultivation is still very much alive and a separate entity.

Exactly.  Nightwatcher is what the Stormfather was before Honor died.  After Honor died, SF changed to incorporate Honor's cognative shadow, start granting visions, etc.  

The Heralds, on the other hand, are CS of themselves, that are granted bodies when they reincarnate after each desolation.  Personally, I think they still have their bodies on Braise, but that's my theory.

On ‎6‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 10:09 AM, Aluminum said:

We've seen in the cosmere that most healing works by changing your physical self to more accuratly match your spiritual self. It has also been said that after a person has accepted a wound and learned to work around it magical healing won't work because your spiritual self would have changed. So that brings me to Lopen. In WoR we see him start to regrow his arm and it finishes in OB. But by this point hasn't Lopen accepted his missing arm? Why is he healed?

To add on to people saying that Lopen clearly didn't accept that it was gone, he actively tried to make it regrow once he realized he could take in stormlight.  He had his family gather spheres for him to pull the light from, realizing that it could happen.  Not only did he not accept that the arm was gone, when he realized there was a chance to fix it, he jumped at it.  

In contrast, Kaladin, for example, had internalized his brands as a part of him so much that he couldn't let them heal.  He viewed them as marks of failure that he can't get over, as shown in both WoR and OB.  His body rejected the tattoos because he didn't view them as a part of him, and because having them erased his failures the same way healing the brands would have, and he couldn't mentally accept those failures.

16 hours ago, Karger said:

Ardents are only allowed to actually wed other Ardents(although due to vorinism's toleration of homosexuality they do not have to be a man and a women).  Otherwise an Ardent can usually leave the ardentia at any time to (like Kebsul suggested to keep his relationship with Shallan).

Awesome, thank you.  I had noticed that some were wed and Kabsul talked of leaving, so I wasn't sure the rules

14 minutes ago, Pathfinder said:

If you are thinking of the quote I think you are it is below:

Oathbringer page 1130

"If you wish for the promised power, ingest that - then try to control the one who follows. But be warned, the queen at Knolinar tried this, and the power consumed her." 

That is what I was thinking of. Not sure where I got the "vessel" thing from

I know it's slightly off topic, but can ardents have families?  Kabsul mentions being allowed to court, and there are the two ardents on the Reshi Island

On ‎6‎/‎6‎/‎2019 at 0:03 AM, ILuvHats said:

You mean Oathbringer, right? Also, what artwork are you talking about? I don't recall any images of Kaladin in OB.

He meant that when reading the first two books he didn't picture it until he saw the artwork.

That makes sense.  But didn't the book mention Aesudan not being a good enough vessel to contain her? Or was it that the power consumed her?

4 minutes ago, Pathfinder said:

My theory posits it has nothing to do with being worthy or not, or even being a better vessel or not. I posit that as long as you have fuel to feed Yelig-nar while using his power, you should theoretically be safe, but like nightblood, you definitely have to watch your levels. But it is still very much a theory so I could be completely and totally wrong. 

In your theory, would the fuel be stormlight? Some other investiture?  Physical strength?  

Would the shardblades contain a level of investiture for fuel?  He had 2

18 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said:

Yelig didnt eat Amarams soul. Rock killed him before that happened. Aesudan on the other hand... poor girl. 

This was how I read it.  I read it as had Rock not killed Amaram, he would have continued on as Yelig-nar's host indefinitely.  That was what I thought the point was.  Aesudan was not a worthy host, but he was.

On ‎3‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 1:54 AM, Chaos said:

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this has been updated to [email protected], correct?

Wasn't his shash brand new in the beginning of WoK?  So he couldn't have been the first master.

Though, I guess you said that these were all possible reasons and don't have to all be true.

15 hours ago, John203 said:

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/148-torcom-the-way-of-kings-re-read-interview/#e2775

That's really interesting.  So he definitely got some Kabbalah inspiration.  I do still wonder about the shattering part, but this WoB is great, thanks.

So I happened to be randomly reading about Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism) and I noticed it talked about the idea of creation being a part of the "Shattering of Divinity" into 10 vessels. 

I wonder if that was at all an inspiration for Adonalsium and the shattering.

Not really going anywhere with this, I just thought it was kind of cool

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefirot#Lurianic_Shevirah_(Shattering)_and_Tikun_(Rectification)

11 hours ago, RShara said:

Smokestone and Diamond give basically the same color light. Smokestone is just dimmer...more muted?

https://coppermind.net/wiki/Spheres

 

 

That was one of my original theories when reading it. Because translucent and transparent are kind of nebulous, especially in terms of light.  I feel like all light is translucent, because I don't really know how light can be opaque. 

I know I'm super late to this post, but was anything ever solved with the nine colors of light deal?  I can't even find that mention on the wiki, so i'm going nuts trying to figure it out

As a few have stated: when heat (or energy) is put into something, it has to come from somewhere, in this case the surrounding air and object.  Energy goes into whatever is being lashed, and the adjacent objects basically give some of their heat along, making them colder.