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Wait WHHHAAAAT? I never finished.

I want Shallan(or another lightweaver) to kill Spark by doing a dark side lightweaving on Malata to have her realize that she has already broken her oaths.

I too have become overly invested in a character to the point where I simply have to read something else. This is a problem for many lightweavers our lies are so powerful that our emotions can be altered significantly by powerful media. Thankfully Oathbringer is more then a story of tragedy. If your ability to feel hope is as powerful as your ability to feel shock on behave of a character you might want to keep going.

They are not. A person who believes Practical Ethics does not believe that off the shelf ethics that a philosopher cooks up have any bearing on the real world beyond a rough guide. A person who believes Applied Ethics believes that if your ethics do not cover a situation then you simple need to go out and expand your ethical code.

My point is that this means Sand Mastery is not hereditary and we knew it was not so that fact that we have an example it is not is not exactly helpful.

Ahh I see the problem. You believe in Practical Ethics where I believe in Applied Ethics. When confronted with Kaladin's conundrum you believe that Kal has to make exception to his normal ethical code in order to function. I on the other hand believe that Kaladin's ethical code is just incomplete. I said respect not follow. A fourth ideal Dustbringer in Kaladin's situation would have stopped Moash and ignored the carnage around them respecting that everyone there had a good reason to be there, chose to be there, and understands the consequences.

Hm. Food for thought. I had not considered the inverse.

Yeah I don't know. It is a good question though. I think it was something along the lines of "not really" or "a little bit and this is the sort of thing that happens in the cosmere but it more references making real world stuff." However I really want someone to dig up that specific WoB because I am almost sure it is out there. Maybe call Cal? Ahhh that makes sense. We will learn in book 4. I am fairly sure Brandon will RAFO anything until then.

"Goodnight sweat sibling" so I would say yes but I am not sure how explicit you require the proof to be. This is the annotation of greatest relevance. Someone somewhere asked this. I am almost certain. Not in the time referenced by Gavilar. The songs confirm this. Tho broth are we their meet is men. Classically singers can't surgebind. There are reasons for this that have not yet been revealed.

Attributes are just in world explanations. I would not let Lift conduct a medical examination however awesome she is. As to the fourth ideal. The thing that stands between Spensa and trusting Culla is emotion. She has to control her prejudice in order to make good choices.

I do think that your current analysis could well be correct although I personally matched him with truthwatchers.

What would you propose instead? Thank you.

The metallic arts are hereditary.

I believe it also says different from metallic arts.

Which we already sort of knew from Khriss's essays.

Thanks to this WoB We know that Spensa best fits in with other Dustbringers. From the gem archives and the in world WoR book we know that Dustbringers share many qualities with her. Chief among these qualities is an outward persona of reckless dangerous intensity. A "nice house lets burn it down for kicks" mentality that is easily apparent in Spensa when we first meet her as a seven year who wants to blow things up. Interestingly Dustbringers contrast this with a softer side of deep and devoted love and compassion to those that they chose to give their loyalty to. Jerkface is surprised that Spensa is actually the huggy type. Based on one of my older theories radiant oaths (with the exception of Lightweavers) follow a pattern. The first ideal is constant, the second is about service, the third is about fairness, the fourth is about trust and the fifth is about the ultimate goal. Spensa goes through character development that reflects some of this in both books. In Skyward as a child she wants to fly in order to prove to herself and her fellows that she is not a coward. The only qualities she really demonstrates at this point is an impressive amount of aggression, bravery, and unyielding willpower. Spensa at this point is forceful enough to get what she wants but what she wants is ultimately selfish. When she wins the training exercise against Jerkface it is for herself not for anyone else. Similarly the thing that holds her back (her fear of hurting others) is still ultimately selfish. She does not want to be the one to kill one of her friends but based on the way the DDF takes losses her friends are all doomed even without her. The pivotal moment for her is when she admits that she is going to die but states that she will win anyway(by saving them). As such I think the second ideal of a Dustbringer is "I will fight for others not for myself." However Spensa is not done here she has saved everyone but she has more to do. Her next move is to save to get answers. Instead holding a grudge against the DDF(and spesifically Ironsides) who have treated her extremely poorly she recognizes that these people need her and that she can't help them until she knows more. As such I think the third ideal for Dustbringers is "I will not turn my back on those who need me no matter who they are or what they have done." ===Starsight spoilers start here=== Starsight provides some excellent information on the fourth ideal. It is in fact a consistent theme. Everyone deserves a chance to be treated as human. Initially Spensa does not trust Culla because of the way he smiles. However she eventually overcomes her initially apprehension and lets her guard down around him giving him a chance to prove that he deserves her trust and loyalty. This is the fourth ideal. "I will allow anyone a chance to prove that they deserve my loyalty." I think it is telling that Malata does not have her armor. The ultimate goal of a Dustbringer is to create a world in which people are loyal to each other. Juggling competing loyalties is also likely a problem for this order(you have to give everyone a chance). I think the final ideal of a Dustbringer is "I will respect all loyalties no matter who is involved." If I am judging right this will be the end of Spensa's arc. She will have to except that some humans are going to be loyal to the superiority and that she herself will have to kill those people. Pattern of radiant oaths here!

Ah missed that.

Why an imaginary one?

Do they name Chulls?

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That is interesting but not particularly significant. We have seen plenty of people use sand mastery before.

Assemble it via parts. This is what we do in remote locations on earth. But things do not manifest forever on the CR side. Also you would need an enormous structure. Why would they not? You can eat their they have gravity. Physical law does not seem muted via the CR.

Kohlin's are the exception as they actually act like highprinces to the king. After and during a desolation and with Jasnah in charge I think that the highprinces in general will be getting back to their legally defined roles as stated by the sunmaker. Or he will stay in combat providing a view of what the battle is like for the ordinary soldier as all these people with powers destroy large chucks of the field. Why? As more and more of the cast gets more and more powerful I think it would become not just viable but necessary to have someone like Adolin around. Adolin could still do a lot. If he revives his blade and it confers any advantage(not just powers) he could found an institution to teach other to do the same. This could be valuable, important, and interesting but not involve giving him any surges is all. All of them. Like many sharders I am on my 15th reread.

See you there.