Oltux72

Rosharans, especially artibabrians, have been dealing with gems for millenia. Their tool set is likely to reflect that.

Right. That raises the question whether the rest of Roshar is OK with her doing that. this could be interesting. I can imagine a scene where Dalinar tells Adolin to get his psycho wife under control and Adolin explodes and tells him that he is an expert at dealing with rebelious wives.

Good luck keeping a mechanized army supplied with a Rosharan industrial base on an interplanetary scale. The Rosharans know their own weakness: Shardbearers cannot hold territory. Again, no Plate in the CR. The issue of logistics is more or less universal. No one of the "Big Four" has a chance of mounting an invasion of another home world. The logistical advantages of the defender are just too large. In such a conflict, you'd attack trade and colony worlds. It would be a war of attrition. If Roshar wants to hurt the rest of the Cosmere, they have one overwhelming strategic option: set Odium free In the North. That is exactly what they would do.

This deserves an answer in detail: Unless the Scadrians are idiots, they'll meet their enemies in the CR. No Shardbearers on the Rosharan side. They do have house troops, but yes, that is their weakness. However, the Ghostbloods are aware of that. Hence you'd better say that we are talking about native generals.

The logistics of interplanetary warfare are terrible. You'd have to essentially walk the whole distance from perpendicularity to perpendicularity. We are talking about thousands of kilometers. Then you'd need craft which can operate in the Expanse of Mists. During the whole trip there will be no native supply of food and water. And then you'd have to strike at place your enemy knows you need to get to and has had decades, maybe centuries to fortify. Strategically speaking the idea to strike better now than later is likely sound, but the logistical advantage to the defense is simply overwhelming.

Taravangian was a father. Apparently his children are already dead, as his granddaughter is inheriting Kharbranth. And he is quite fond of her. Our dearest Jasnah had a first hand encounter with a granddaughter of Taravangian and is ready to murder her own relatives. In addition she is quite intelligent, so we can confidently conclude that she will see a logical possibility. Now, should she learn who now is holding Odium, an obvious tactic arises. If I were her I'd lead a commando raid on Kharbranth to take her hostage. Is that compatible with the Immortal Words? And whom will she take on her raid? Stonewards?

I am afraid there must be more behind it, as the very same Intent can be reached by different Commands. That was the very thing that started the Manywar. And the exact wording is important. I must say, if we were not talking about the Cosmere specifically, we would call a "Command" a spell.

But it does not consume the user. The point of using an external fuel is to consume it. Whether you consume Stormlight that does not come from yourself or somebody else's soul for power or use a human sacrifice as a key to channel the Dor does really not make a difference. End-positive is not meant in an ethical sense. Hemalurgy is end-negative because it decays. The only obvious analogy would be Shades. They spontaneously decay..

This may be a very theoretical question. So let me phrase it another way. Does the Cosmere have coexistance of destiny and indeterminism? Future Sight can be wrong. Hence the Cosmere cannot have full predetermination. And we know that the information you get out of Fortune is radically incomplete. You know that you need to be somewhere, but not why and other things. That is really incompatible with actually seeing stuff. You know somehow. That looks to me like the Cosmere features destiny for a minority of events and the rest is indeterministic and imperfectly visible with access to the Spiritual Realm with Future Sight, while the destiny part is accessible with Fortune. What do you think?

So can animal spren. The problem using adhesion is that it is peculiar to Honor. All Spren can be seen and communicate. And flame spren can make heat in a fabrilal. We are not looking at Surgebinding specifically.. So does (Scadrial) Ishar imposed them on the Spren. He lacked the ability to do this to Voidspren. In fact, we have no strict confirmation that oaths work the same way for "enlightened" Spren.

Voidbinding coming from the Unmade does not mean that the Unmade are Voidbinders. In the other systems that is not the case. Spren themselves have the cutting effect, they are not Surgebinders. The Sanderson is devious and his words often lead thee astray. The only Voidbinder we can be quite sure is a Voidbinder and whom we have seen voidbind is Renarin. And his ability does come from an Unmade, Sja-Anat, in origin, but it tells us nothing about Sja-Anat. The oaths are secondary. So even while the pairings may be natural a pure Voidbinder would be unlikely to be a member of an order. And if there were full symmetry, we would need to ask - where are the Voidblades and the Voidplate?

Do squires need anything but the Immortal Words?

Naviani is now a Bondsmith and a scientist-researcher. That leads to a question. Will she take squires and will her researchers turn into squires?

No. I have to decline that honor. I merely don't cloud my reasoning with anachronistic notions. Roshar is a preindustrial planet and Alethkar a feudal country. They will not and cannot allow their people what we would deem a free personal life. Laral went with Roshone and was happy with that. The idea that everybody should have romantic relations independent of any considerations other than free personal preference is literally foreign to them. Jasnah specificallyis extremely intelligent and liberal. But she is not a fool and she is still Alethi. She has been raised as an aristocrat, who knew that she might become a regent. It was always clear to her that the realm and the dynasty had to come before her personal life. She will use it and if need be - how shall I put it - her bed in the service of them if the need is clear. The idea that mixing intimacy and practical gains is abhorrent is a particular western notion. I suspect it to happen as soon as Jasnah learns that Taravangian now holds Odium and will explore the option of peace negotiations.

Well and here we come back to Taravangian. Jasnah acted like surrender to Raysse was impossible. Peace negotiations with Taravangian are a completely different matter. Good or bad? For whom?

You got Jasnah. If she deemed surrender a reasonable option, she would consider it. Taravangian is a traitor. There is no way around that. In fact he admits that. It is very difficult to be a bit of a traitor. The choice is quite binary.

You are looking at this like a romantic affair. It isn't. A 17th century royal marriage would come closer. Neither is she. Of course she is ready to use him and use him up, if need be. We are talking about a woman ready to eliminate family members, kill demigods and use genocide. Jasnah is a spinster. She would tell you so - in private. Unless you are talking about in comparison to Hoid. Yet that is almost meaningless. In fact whether Hoid classifies as human still is dubious. You could doubt that even in Jasnah's case. She is an organism in symbiosis with something very unhuman, if you wish to look at it in extremely technical terms. Real strength is the ability to deal with a situation of disadvantage and overcome it. Understanding and valuation. He is the only man on Roshar (and person save for Cultivation) who has a chance to truly get her. The need to be valued and understood is a deeply human trait. Jasnah is an extremely lonely woman. understanding the world power - the hard kind, the ability to make heads roll and eyes burn guarding what is hers I suspect that what determines Jasnah is not inner conflict, but fear. I'd say you are correct but for the "just", if you mean it in the sense of "only". We cannot even imagine how lonely Hoid is. Either would sacrifice the other if they absolutely deemed it necessary. But it would break their heart.

Raising the point for which reason exactly Odium would obey Honor. Or why actually if Honor enjoyed such an authority over Odium why he diod not forbid Odium to kill him.

But what is the benefit to Sazed? I mean, getting rid of Paalm is an obvious benefit, but almost breaking Waxillium and turning him away from the Path is clearly not. To an enemy or victim. That is something Kelsier would not do to one of his people. Remember how he treated Vin. If he thought that your wife needed killing he would tell you.so. He may kill you, too, just to be thorough, but he will always treat you like somebody who deserves his own choices - or kill you. That is what somebody who is doing what Thaidakar does and needs to be done, must be ready to do.

If you are on team Harmony, you'll be a tool, not a subordinate member. Honor demanded that you do your duty. Odium wants to have ruthless henchmen. Even Endowment at least lets you know that you are a tool. Not so Harmony, he lets you shoot your wife without telling you. He has a tendency to work for your interest, but not your wishes. He decides when it is time to go to the vet.

Why? It is a team that does something. It is the only team you can join without ethnic prejudices, unless you want to serve a Shard. Sure, you may like the Elantrians, but if you are not one of them, you'll never be, no way around that.

It is an idea Jasnah calls obvious. How? That the Knights Radiant would listen is imaginable. But every king?

Defeated their attack. There is no indication that they counterattacked and devastated the lands of the Singers. I think we are underestimating how far the balance between attack and defense is shifted on Heraldic Roshar compared to our time. You cannot do long sieges You cannot do earthen siege works You have no Shard Blades without the Knights Radiant You have no stable major waterways to supply your armies - no Soulcasters without the Knights Radiant You cannot undermine walls without the Knights Radiant - it's solid rock A good fortress or walled city is basically invulnerable

There you have your answer. Make it the law of the land. Even something as seemingly benign as "The needs of the many must outweigh the needs of the few, or the one" can get you there.

We just do not know that. For all we know Odium supplied them, respectively their Voidspren with Voidlight. All we know is that they did not put Voidlight into gems or took it out of gems.