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True, if the memories are inside her body or her spiritweb or some combination thereof. False, if her memories are inside her spikes. She went in a sequence of single original spike to no spike at all to a completely new spike. There is no time memories could have transferred from the old spike to the new spike, because she never bore them together.
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The way Paalm made and changed her blessings pretty much disproves that. She was without blessing for a short time during a change and did not lose her memories when switching to completely new single blessings.
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Mraize bonding with a corrupted spren
Oltux72 replied to Little_Dagger's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Safe for an external observer. Not safe for somebody doing the experiment to himself. Mraize has to be ready for the likelihood of any ability being transformed being 50/50. I'd really surprised if the Ghostbloods were not aware of Gavilar's results. If you have to convert the stuff anyway, converting it to voidlight makes no difference. You cannot solve everything by single combat. Even the Ghostbloods will need at least groups of squad size.- 17 replies
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Voidbinding, Old Magic “Cousin”, was on Ashyn
Oltux72 replied to Child of Hodor's topic in Stormlight Archive
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Mraize bonding with a corrupted spren
Oltux72 replied to Little_Dagger's topic in Cosmere Discussion
It is unclear whether they all show the same powers as Renarin bonded to Glys. By getting an enlightened spren, you get the ability to manipulate Stormlight, Voidlight and presumably Warlight. Voidlight is much more durable. Why would he not want Progression? In combat for a small group it is an extreme advantage.- 17 replies
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At the risk of repeating myself: Kaladin broke his word. There is no way around that. You are suggesting that Moash do the same with the man whom he had given his word to.
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But he has powers. Or rather Aux has powers. He can manipulate Connection.
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You were right to ask why those communities never arose. Prior conditions cannot explain everything. OK, now that raises a point. Scadrial has genuine aristocratic rulers. So why not an analogue of London or St. Petersburg or Berlin or Montevideo? Only the architecture? Or is it a mental shortcut from equating the Roughs to the Wild West and hence the Basin to established North America?
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Fourth, they may not want to deal with you. The Great Houses of the Final Empire have in part survived. They see themselves as political entities, not just economic entities. Part of their ideology and reason for being is to provide safety to their members. The idea of preferring to own your own farms and warehouses derives kind of naturally from that. Cash crops may be quite a lot less attractive than without them. Fifth, people are vicious at times and there is no such thing as a Basin police force. In fact the Great Houses have what amounts to private armies and they are taking casualties over three hundred years after the Catacendre. Being an independent farmer in a remote area may have security implications. That works both ways, though. They have the Words of the Founding and a benign environment. Hence they will not neglect public health. Their cities never suffered something like the cholera epidemics of 19th century Europe. Indeed.
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There is always one dominant factor, though. In the olden days food production was limited by the availability of land. In the Americas it was farm labour. The Elendel Basin is yet another case. There the limit is demand. They could not sell more food. Yes, but this process starts as soon as the additional workers are not needed. In the Basin this starts at a lower level of technology due to the land's fertility. That is not strictly speaking "let". It also forces it. A farmer's income has to come out of the price everybody else pays for food (leaving aside textile crops). If a farmer can feed X people, they have to pay 1/X of their wages to the farmer, if their wages are supposed to be the same.
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The Final Empire had a technology level about 1750 to 1800 minus guns. You are drastically underestimating the amount of capital and technology you need to be a decent farmer under those conditions. You need housing, draft animals, a stable for them, a yoke, a plough, maybe a till, harvesting equipment and most crucially a cart or wagon. All these things are expensive. And somebody without a background in family farming cannot just make them. Now, you might live as a hunter/gatherer or join the Coloss. But that is another story. No. Materials were. They came out of the shelters and their manufacturing base was gone. They were limited to what The Lord Ruler had stored and what they had left on their persons. Even to melt down the empty cans they would have needed coal. They had a lot of unskilled or semi-skilled labor, but little labor trained in rebuilding. They knew that they were operating on limited time. They, or at least their leadership, had to reestablish mines, get metal and cloth produced, probably some sawmills and so on. Their level of technology was in grave danger. Technically food was the very first priority, but the very fertility of the land allowed you to get by with inefficient methods. Bad water, hypothermia, poisonous plants, wild animals, mental health (most of those people had lost most of their family and their whole world), lawlessness, .... Essentially they were in a gigantic refugee camp. Now they had some limited stored resources and tools. Whom do you give them to? The ones who know what they are doing, or how to organize people and can read the manuals Harmony had left - that is city people and predominantly nobles at that. Indeed these assumptions are flawed. And frankly, the question is wrong. The economy, demographics and social organization of a Basin projected back in time at the rate the Basin develops never existed. The people who came out of those shelters were essentially subjects of The Lord Ruler or infants. Even then they were a highly skewed sample of the urban parts of it, as building a bunker in places without the people to fill it is no good. Then the question of how it developed depended on on factors you would not find on Earth, let alone colonial era North America, such as a centralized supplies, the words of God available only to a minority and God's chosen leader in command. Sazed left them a gift with consequences in form of the Words of the Founding. As trivial as it is to state that, books are usable only to the literate. They, however, were a minority among the citizens of The Final Empire. Furthermore, if Spook really decided that you would no longer eat, you were dead. Not an environment in which nonconformists prosper.
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It isn't a monopoly. They have efficient big farms in the best spots. The market is just saturated. That argument is based on the implicit assumption that the Basin has a latent food shortage. Suppose you want to establish a new farm. OK, now you have land. So has the competition. Only that they have land already cleared and developed. And they have the machinery. And they have centuries of experience in farming. Economy of scale is on their side. And they are in the places shipping is cheap from. You will be operating at a loss. With the noble houses controlling the railways and river boats you can be sure that it is much cheaper to ship grain in bulk and so on. The very fact that the land is so good kills the family farm as a concept. It drives down the value of land and labour in farming. Instead you get the importance of capital and transport. Because he found out that the people who were most likely to share his ideals were illiterate and hopelessly uneducated. He needed the remainder of the noble houses to run a government. And he could not afford a failure. They were operating close to the edge. Building a single mansion was an issue. He had to use a system he knew to work. Permit me in excursion into the ecology of ants. Some species have soldier ants. If you try to measure their effectivity in combat, you will find that the species with the best soldiers have the fewest of them. That is the basic principle of economics you do not apply to the Basin. If everybody can have the best land a god made for his favorite people, undeveloped land is worthless.
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Socioeconomic implications of certain technologies
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Some tourists would, others wouldn't. That is kind of the point. The beaches of Bora Bora or Fiji suffer far less in that regard. Hence you would see a selective shift in the flow of money. Yes, and it may still be. We are told that universes are expensive to buy. But are they expensive to travel to? We have I would think at least three cost factors Discovering a universe Exploring and assessing a universe Transfer things and people there If you wish to sell universes the price has to make up for all three factors and the failed attempts nobody wants. We have no way to judge the ratio. It may be in the 1 : hundreds. If, however, you do tourism, the only cost you have to cover is #3. And we can make some educated guess at those costs, because they are a part of #2 indirectly, as you need to send people to do these things. Those people even need to be highly paid, as if you step into an unknown world, you may be stepping into a puddle of nerve agent on the bottom of a radioactive crater while breathing spores of some bioweapon. Hence I would conclude that the trip has to be at least a thousand times cheaper. -
Absolutely, yes In that example you are using a force that applies to C, X and D, but not to A and B. What kind of force is that? What moves C and D along with X? If you restrict yourself to perturbing single objects, I can see that for A, B, C and D as they are subject to two kinds of forces. But what does it for X? By what mechanism?
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The thing is that the icosahedral polygon depends on them not needing orbit speed to stay up. That is you you not only need it to keep them off the equator but away from each other up in the sky. If they repel each other the system's stable state will be something with them having elliptical orbits, so that when one of them is cose to the planet, the other ones will be spaced out as far as possible. They will certainly not stand still in the sky for an observer on the planet.
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The idea is that the repulsion to other spores would drive them to the vortices of a polyhedron. No, Brgst13 proposed geosynchronous orbits at most. We have the pesky fact they need to spaced at the same distances and always above the same point of the planet and, albeit implicitly, that they have to stay up in the sky where they are for at least centuries. Let me give you a 2D example. Assume that A and B repel each other and that X attracts A and B. So we can have: A ----- X ------ B with everything totally at rest. Now something perturbs the system to: A --- X -------- B At this point A and X are doomed to collide, while B will escape into space If A and B orbit around X, this will not happen. That is perfectly true. The problem with orbiting X is that they cannot stay over the same point on the surface of X unless they are over the equator.
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Sorry, it seemed to me like you were projecting the current political process in the Basin back to the first decades PC. No. I think we are seeing two processes, industrialization and political unrest, but for different reasons. True. And it looks to me like settlement outside the Basin is a rather recent phenomenon, postdating the foundation of the Basin's major cities by at least a century. So whatever role the Roughs are playing now, they played none when industrialization began. But are they seeking freedom? Waxillium may be a bit biased, but basically it looks like people want to belong to a house.
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No, I am sorry, but no. This is Scadrial. The Basin is artificial. The plans for Elendel are in the Words of the Founding. You need to take into account that they may also have a list of coordinates for good places to settle and The Lord Mistborn just appointed some noble and he moved his people there, lest all of mankind (as far as they know) could be wiped out in a local catastrophe.
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Biologically Kandra are Mistwraith. As far as we know they never voluntarily use the body that would show their sex. In fact technically we do not know whether Mistwraith have sex, biologically speaking. The Kandra scent may just be a Kandra thing, not seen in Mistwraith. How Mistwraith breed is unknown. For all we know they may be hermaphrodites. That is ill supported. We have no idea what pronouns the modern North Scadrian language has. Nor do we know what the Kandra speak at home. It may very well be Terris. These are human ideas. Kandra aren't human. They are not even mammals. Their ancestors were, they are very good at emulating them, but they no longer are.
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The problem with that is the regular solar eclipse we saw. That requires a geostationary orbit, or they are not in orbit and indeed hover.
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Well, no. I am sorry, but I am afraid I need to pick nits. It will keep them evenly spaced, but not around the planet. They would hover at the height where the repulsion from the other moons outweighs the attraction from the planet's gravity. And they would aim for maximum distance from each other, so they go to the vortices of a polyhedron. We agree on that don't we? But what keeps the planet at the center of the arrangement? As soon as the planet is shifted a bit off center, the attraction to the moon now next to it increases and decreases to the others. One moon crashes onto the surface, the others escape into space. You found a metastable solution for the system. You can correct that with the spores on the planet's surface, but they weren't there initially.
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The distinct oceans exist because the spores are always dropped on the same places. Hence the condition required to form them and allowing them to exist would be the same. They cannot cause themselves. What kept the system stable while the oceans were beginning to form?
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Somebody having grown up in the world of ash would not even recognize an edible plant. That would change with time, but the attitudes set in the formative years last. And economically speaking, unless you have land close to rivers you will not be competitive in the market. You would be a really poor subsistance farmer.
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Simple population pressure. They can make enough food with fewer people. The surplus will not get agricultural jobs at decent pay. Yes, but not in that way. With labour good specialists have the reverse effect. Their numbers go down. Well, no. Scadrial was urbanized before it was industrialized after the Catacendre. Scadrial is an analogue to Earth, but not to the Western World. In fact, the closest analogue would probably be South America. An economic model of individual ownership of land to be worked mostly by the owners and their close family without much hired labor is by no means universal on Earth. And no other cultures means no export. You cannot sustain an agricultural sector larger than domestically needed by exporting the surplus. Hence whenever you raise the productivity of agricultural workers, either you lower their living standards, as the surplus won't be sold, or you reduce their numbers. in practice the latter will happen. And it means no immigration. You cannot use the surplus to boost your population by immigration. Suppose you walk out of your bunker after the Catacendre. You have stored food. But it won't last forever. You have to get this right. Whom do you give the tools and stuff to build efficient farms to? The few farmers you have, but they will then tell other people how to work the land, not do it themselves, because you need to get large harvests in, and to the people used to organizing large numbers of people, that is: nobles The Basin is politically decentralized. There will be no Corn Laws or agricultural subsidies. Nor will a national government help small towns. To have a US style frontier, you need unclaimed land. Can you imagine what the views of an allomancer lord on squatters' rights are? Let alone squatters from another city/political entity, again decentralization. The emotional connection to the land is not there. If you talk about the soil the ashes of our forefathers are buried in, a Scadrian would either laugh or refer you to a Zinc counselor. Harmony made it a comparatively short time ago and they all know it. Owning rural land lacks emotional and social value. Suppose you walk out of your bunker after the Catacendre. Would you rather stay with the supplies and the last vestiges of the familiar or would you go out into an alien environment to do a job you are not familiar with? The Lord Mistborn probably had to force people into farming. In terms of products/labor ratio a large farm on the best land closest to the market will win. There was never a good economic incentive to go solo farming. Nor is their experience for that available. Even plantation Skaa come from, well, plantations. They are not used to small scale farming, let alone in an alien environment. And this has to work the first time. Remember that many of the Skaa you are talking about most likely didn't even know how to cook. The Lord Mistborn needed the nobles. You cannot run a whole land with illiterates. Hence they have kept part of the economics of the Final Empire.
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Inconclusive. He may just be a pessimist and assume that he would soon arrive at a shore and he certainly won't outswim a sunrise. It probably wouldn't. The storms would be devastating. And that really is the problem. He should experience hurricane force winds so near the terminator. And that raises a question: Is the destruction really a purely physical effect, or do you get an overdose of Investiture and that is the deeper reason nobody started digging bunkers?
