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If your tech level is at 1960 or so, you will discover nuclear fission and fusion. If that is the issue, they will just build nuclear weapons.

Well, no. It still can be too slow. If you have a choice between that and an alien invasion destroying your civilization then your choice isn't good, but it is clear. Their enemies have the same powers. And have managed to block his powers. Yes, but that is the default. The idea that compromise is viable is kind of a luxury. In combat you usually do not have that. If I may give you an example: Enemies are chasing you and you approach a chasm. Now you have two options. Either you run as fast as possible and jump, or you stop, gather your breath and fight. It is clear that in this case only the extremes are useful options. Scadrial has gone on the path of uncontrolled technology. Restraining it was The Lord Ruler's option. He has been deposed. They need to deal with that. Debatable. So far, a nuclear war has not happened. The point of allies is giving you capabilities you do not already have. Alliances would mean getting stuff they have not created themselves. That is the very goal. Yes and I think Kelsier's solution to that is imperialism to artificially create obstacles, if you will. Harmony sees that and opposes it for a reason. Yet Sazed is honest enough to admit that he is unsure whether Kelsier's way will not ultimately become necessary.

It says that Harmony claims that. Harmony's relationship with truth on such matters is ... strained.

That is the usual case, as the Spren highly prefer that. But it is not a requirement. The best counterexamples are Design and The Sibling. Whereas if you break your oath, those will be the consequences.

Yes. No, I am sorry, but that is just not what he said. He quite specifically said that nobody bonded to a Spren but Hoid managed that. Nothing what he said rules out an unbonded Spren leaving Roshar. Now, why would that be easier? I have no idea. In fact, it probably isn't. But we know that by this time the Ghostbloods will have worked for years on getting Investiture off Roshar. Spren are made of Investiture. People are not. So for all we know the people Steris saw were Scadrians bound to a Highspren, having formed the bond on Scadrial. The powering is not the issue. The regard of a Skybreaker for legality derives from being bound to a Highspren and the oaths required for that. If you break your oath, your bond will break. You can do so by totally mundane means. It will still break.

You are drawing an unsupported conclusion. To be a Skybreaker you need to form a Nahel bond with a Highspren. You need somebody who has formed a bond to a Highspren to explain the question, because it comes from the oaths. But there is no need to form this connection on Roshar. A Highspren escaping Roshar alone would be enough. It seems to me that if you want to explain things clearly you need a Highspren. Otherwise you need to explain why People feel themselves bound to the ideals of the Skybreakers Have an ability that can be mistaken for Coinshots Exactly those people happen to be Ghostbloods We know, well strongly suspect, that multiple groups have left Roshar as refugees. Why would the reasons that displaced them not hit Shadesmar and Spren as well?

He isn't powerless. He still has extended perception, the knowledge that comes with being a Sliver and what he learned in Shadesmar.

Telsin died. Her corpse was to be seen. But did she fully die? She was an avatar of Autonomy, wasn't she? Does that make her a sliver with the inherent ability to persist as a Cognitive Shadow? If that question were answered in the affirmative and I were prone to betting, my money would be on her not going into the Beyond.

You are raising two distinct but related points How old will he be? Where will he be? He knows there are many worlds out there. He and Harmony have permanent issues, let's phrase it that way. Will he stay on Scadrial?

I am afraid I have to ask the obvious question. Why? What is in it for Autonomy to go that convoluted route instead of just hiring, equipping and training soldiers? Yes, you could have an army of Cognitive Shadows in Shadesmar. For one thing they do not need to carry supplies. But in this case she wants to invade a planet. They need a physical body. So what is the advantage in that you now need to recruit two people, whom you have to kill, which is not great for recruitment? When Edwarn was or wasn't recruited, his body was blown to bits, so it can hardly be reused in that manner.

Yes, but that was not at issue. In last consequence, Hoid does not care about the survival of Roshar. He said so himself. He is stalling. Once the war on Roshar has a definite result, he can go and leave the Rosharans to their fate. He can, but not repeatedly at will. He cannot just show up at Ladrian Manor before the time jump and again afterwards and tell Waxillium to get a new coach man who happens to be the coach man he had years ago. We are talking about a detective who is suspicious and knows about the Kandra and the Set.

But we do know his short term goals. He is developing an alliance against Odium and is fighting a delaying action on Roshar to give that alliance time to prepare. Based on that we need to conclude that his presence on Roshar does not do any good. I am afraid not. Waxillium would hardly hire Hoid whenever he showed up as his coach man. So he stayed on Scadrial for six years during which not much happened.

That is overlooking the elephant in the room. Hoid is still Waxillium's coach man. Hoid could afford to leave and stay away for six years. His previous task was advisor and wit to the queen of Alethkar in exile. In other words, it no longer matters much for the greater Cosmere, what the government of Alethkar does. I am going to say it outright: Odium has been freed to at least the degree that allows him to send out troops. And that is what is making Shadesmar so dangerous.

Yes, sorry for the confusion. How should we call that? Late Standard Imperial? Brandon on the meaning of Thaidakar That would be plausible but Brandon said otherwise. It may also mean "Sovereign" or "Crew Leader", "Mistborn" or simply "Boss". It could also be a reference to the organization and mean something like "ghost" or "shadow". Or very prosaic, Kelsier's family name. Given his sense of humor I would not even rule out that it refers to the maritial status of his parents.

Classic Scadrian. I am assuming that we are getting translations. Where we are getting the literal names, such as in Hammondar Bay, the suffix "-ar" matches. It does not phonetically match what we have seen of Southern Scadrian names.

And all of them just let him carry the bands off to an unknown location? Or did they know and Kelsier trusted them? Accepting that for being true at one time, it still does not explain why je let the bands just wait there for decades after the watchmen had died. So Hoid, who can harm no one, actually went there and ripped a memory out of somebody's brain? And has learned how to make medaillions? And these medaillions look like many of the kind recently recovered in an archeological dig?

But then why did he give the Bands away? The coin is basically a medaillion. Why could he use that but not te Bands?

But then who created the coin with the memories Waxillium acquired? That just makes no sense.

How? Are none of the Ghostbloods Seekers?

That is a useful observation only if faster progress can be avoided. Going by our Earth in the 19th and 20th centuries, it cannot be avoided.

Well, that could mean that the Basiners just need war. Most people after all get their innovations from someone else. Now you could argue that the Basiners will never learn how to do R&D well unless they have to. But they are getting a challenge. If a hydrogen bomb (or its equivalent) in your harbor is not a challenge, nothing will do. It need not be advanced technology. Haarmony could give them basic scientific knowledge. It would stifle their own basic research for a time, but that can be overcome. Look at Japan.

It just needs a bit of history. There must be a reason eras that produced Galileo, Kepler, Newton or Leibnitz did not discover most metals. The technology required is more demanding. There is the theory of Mistwraiths being blocked Feruchemists. That Kelsier does indeed contain his own original bones strongly suggests that the rest of his body is a Mistwraith by origin.

I think the Bands were made during the first century after the Catacendre. Nicrosil needs elementary silicon. Making that without electricity is fantastically expensive. You use aluminium as a reductive agent. I'd say that you do not. Yet Scadrial of course does have a full feruchemist: Sazed And do we know that Kelsier is not a feruchemist? We know that he cannot do Allomancy strictly speaking.

But why create amounts necessary for testing many people? And now I am afraid we are entering circular reasoning. You cannot really argue that what we know about medaillions is far less than we though and then see as certain that they were created hemalurgically. All we can really tell for sure is that they have the physical form of a spear head, that is whoever made them was aware of Survivorism. Given Fortune that does not even strictly speaking rule out Rashek.

Again, I am afraid the timing precludes that. The Bands show Survivorist symbolism so they were made after the Catacendre. But by all accounts they were made quite soon after the Catacendre. That is at a time when the new metals were either still unknown or ridiculously expensive, so expensive that testing somebody for abilities with them was unusual.