Oltux72

With a few hours to go. Let's do a prediction. When will he have gotten the Dawnshard?

While that in itself is absolutely logical, it leaves us with an arguably bigger question. Why did he give the Bands of Mourning away? Or, if he didn't, who was the Sovereign and why did Kelsier not go for the Bands in the decades they were in front of that temple? Just to be sure, how certain are we of that? Could we be looking at the memories of an earlier, failed, attempt to reincarnate himself, which became a pseudo-Kandra? And, next question, why can he see the allomantic lines, although he is not an allomancer? Why? What is the benefit to him? Those memories themselves are pretty banal. They work because Northeners recognise the scars. That such a conflict may have occured is entirely plausible. But then you have to explain why Kelsier let them sit there for decades. And that is very, very hard to do, unless they were hidden well. However, against an organization like the Ghostbloods they were anything but well hidden.

Now that we The Lost Metal and know that Kelsier has no powers, let's ask the core question. Whose memories are in the coin?

Does it need to be at least roughly intact? Can you return if your demise involved an industrial meat grinder? What about sitting on a hydrogen bomb as it went off?

What the Recreance was really about.

What makes you think that Hoid is not just a figure of public notoriety at that time?

Well, no. It does not make sense. It raises the question why Odium bothered to create the Everstorm, respectively why she happened to die just as the Everstorm was created.

(Scadrial)

Scadrial. For the simple reason that I have a working sense of self-preservation.

People are seeing the theory that Shallan's mother was a Herald as confirmed. That leaves a question. Jasnah and presumably Navani and Dalinar have had a deep look at Shallan's family. Did they just overlook that she has no maternal grandparents? Because that is the implication of her mother being a Herald. Well, technically she had maternal grandparents, but they died thousands of years ago. They are aristocrats. They care about pedigree. Do we assume that she put up a very good fake identity? But that replaces one question with another one: Why did she bother? Or do you say that Jasnah knows?

By messenger. If you can send an assassin to a distant island, you can send a messenger to Arelon. That does not really make sense. See, if you know that he might turn traitor, there is no point in waiting for him to go to Teoras. Conclusion: Wyrm knows that he should have Hrathen killed, if he goes to Teoras, but he has no idea why that would be necessary.

Why do you send the assassin to the island? Why not just tell Dilaf to kill Hrathen?

Well, the basic question remains. Why did he send a single assassin?

So that leaves two options, if you look at it from a very abstract point of view. Odium gets an outcome without consequences that leaves him to pursue another strategy Odium drives the other side to violating the contract The second outcome is better for him, but probably riskier. Strategically speaking his opponents have a fatal weakness. Jasnah and Hoid are at a certain leve antagonists. Hoid wants to keep Odium bound, if need be at the cost of sacrificing Roshar. Jasnah and presumably Dalinar want to preserve Roshar. It seems to me that if all else fails Odium could go to a strategy of terror to pressure Jasnah and Dalinar into freeing him in exchange for the lives of the people of Roshar. In case of Rayse I would have been sure that he would pick option #2 out of vanity. Taravangian on the other hand is a pragmatist.

Not foreshadowing of Fortune.

But he didn't anticipate it. Sending one man to kill a traitor but not informing the invading forces makes no sense at all. Wyrm did not know why it would be necessary to kill Hrathen under those circumstances. He knew only that it was needed. Knowing that something is necessary but not why is typical for the use of Fortune. I'd say that that is specifically not a use of Fortune. The act of seeing the future is not compatible with what we are seeing from people confirmed to use Fortune. Yes, that means that the Cosmere has two distinct methods of precognition.

Si Dalinar derrotado servira Odium en su muerte, la muerte de la lucha es muerte corporal. Odium ne puede facer una condicion por la victoria que Dalinar ne puede cumplir el contrato.

That is certainly a position to take. Is Taravangian bound to the spirit, though? It says to the death. Dalinar is 55 or so. Wait fourty years, generously calculated, and that issue is solved. But you are raising an issue. Does Odium want to win? That would leave him bound to Roshar. If you want that to cease you have options need to make the other side break the contract make Dalinar agree to revoke the contract make sure the contest becomes impossible give the contest an outcome not covered in the contract For example tell Dalinar that your champion will be a fifty megaton fusion bomb designed to go off as soon as the contest begins, resulting in a draw and combine that with an offer to call the whole thing off.

OK, so the contract says that they have to meet on the top of Urithiru. But do they have to stay there? That is could Odium's champion just teleport away and that's it?

I am afraid I have to disagree. If that were the simple explanation, anybody could do it. But we find that it takes ultrainvested people. They are incorporated somehow. A pure CS would not be in the physical realm, or if it could somehow transfer it would look like something from Threnody. Some process made them thos eshadow bodies to inhabit. OK, so first, luckspren manipulate mass not gravity. Look at how a chasmfiend goes around corners. Lowering gravity does not affect centrifugal/centripetal force. You need to actually go for mass to achieve that. The point is that you have multiple species of plant having adapted to extraordinary environments, like on Roshar and First of the Sun. That adaption needs enough time for evolution to act. That is, the plants must predate the shattering of Adonalsium.

To be fair, wouldn't you have to first point at the Paratime or Poul Anderson series, thus going back all the way to 1948? Larry Niven did a take on it. So did Turtledove. The idea, I am sorry, is hardly original. Even Star Trek has a time police.

Is that the story where a teenage farm owner discovers a tunnel leading to another world under his family farm?

The problem with that is that they do not understand scarcity. By their logic if you get enough aluminium ore into one place, you'll get an aircraft. They removed a lesser component of the limits and thought that they'd show something.

Let me put it this way. You can look at crocodiles and show that they are adapted to water. However, if you wish to transfer that result to tetrapods in general, you cannot do so. The Sho-Del are one species among numerous. There is no point in showing that they are adapted to watery environments, when you wish to talk about faynlife in general.

They are white as they are fayn, but so are the fayn plants. And they do not look like an axolotl (leaving aside the basic validity of using resemblance to a specific animal for that) That they did not go to Komashi can be just as easily explained by the Shroud. That the sttlement of UTol predates that is plainly just a guess. Alternatively it does predate it and they divided the star system up by species and humans drew the shorter straw. The notion that humans would, if they had to pick, choose Komashi over UTol is untenable.