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It would seem to me that that would show Scadrial is not a good place Nobles are evil That is well and good, but it fails to show that TLR is a monster. It has to be enough to justify for Kelsier to turn himself into a god. For that reason I cannot see how you can go lower on the scale without misrepresenting Kelsier.
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Alehela/Alethela- Isles of the Emberdark + Stormlight
Oltux72 replied to Rand-Al-Thaidakar's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Whoever was fighting Scadrians mus have known that they have feruchemical healing. Therefore they are likely to develop weapons that do spritual damage in order to prevent the healing. It is a reasonable tactic. If you cannot defend a colony it is better to destroy it in a fighting retreat rather than yield it to an enemy. It takes away the incentive for trying to annex your colonies. Adolin Kholin would have been able to explain that. -
OK, you can tell the story from the perspective of a Skaa girl from a fishing village sold into a brothel in Luthadel, spared from execution by the revolution only to have the movie end with a slow shot of the tsunami coming in to kill everybody in her village. Yes, the books have potential. Will that show that they have nothing to lose? To be perfectly honest without the executions I don't think the Skaa of Luthadel would have risen. It took that latent threat of just being snatched away from the street at random to make the uprising plausible. If I wanted to cut from the book I'd go for OreSeur's subplot. TenSoon hired from the start cut the thieving crew. Have Vin recruited in another way recruitment of Clubs. Start out with a full crew but not the execution
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The heads being chopped off is not about being grimdark. TFE is not going to turn grimdark whatever you do.The story is about a revolution. However, it is a revolt against a dark, evil, living god. The story works so well precisely because, whatever Kelsier is willing to do, there is always the fountains running red with blood that ask the implicit question of what would not be justified to end this. No. That is not just it. Because it also asks an implicit moral question. What do you do if you are facing an evil god, who has nevertheless a good claim that he saved the world? Brandon has to show that The Lord Ruler is evil. He does that in three ways The casual line at the start of the book about nobles having the girls they rape killed within the legal limits The mistreatment of the rural Skaa The heads being chopped off And you need these demonstrations to justify Kelsier's actions. Could you do it differently? Not with it staying the same book. Look at how Brandon does it with the bridge runs. It is a very different kind of evil. It wouldn't serve the purpose it needs to serve in TFE. TFE works precisely because it is a story about a clash between two fanatics. It needs atrocities matching their fanaticism.
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No, he wouldn't. Later Brandon is different. He picks different topics. Era 1 profited from coming from a fresh, younger author who was not afraid to go to extremes later Brandon does not go to. Later Brandon burns Rathalas off screen. Early Brandon would have shrieking people on fire run through the streets in panic and agony. TFE works because so many heads are chopped off that the fountains turn red with blood.
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I am not so sure that the world will let him live that peaceful life. It seems to me that his wife writing books indicates that he is involved in some kind of mentorship role.
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As Dalinar Kholin arguably wanted Retribution to form, does this mean that Szeth is bound to support Retribution by his oath? Does this go as far as him needing to uphold the peace agreement, because that is Retribution's will?
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Imagine what individuals can do if you have hemalurgy, artificial spikes, artificial sources of Investiture and an actual understanding how to edit a spirit web.
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I would say it is one of those we haven't seen so far. Though that is based on the meta level thinking that Brandon would not want complications with existing worlds. The question is though, when is it set? The technology is premodern, but the place could just be backward. From the reading I could not rule out that this is on, e.g. Classical Scadrial. Other than that I have three questions: What is the demon? What form of Investiture can be used to create epidemics? Is this true time travel or did the protagonist experience something like an extremely boosted form of gold allomancy? What caused it?
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Thank you. Somebody beat me to it.
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Whither are posts about SP#6 to go?
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Which of these two contradictory statements is right?
Oltux72 replied to Lord Stormer's topic in Cosmere Discussion
The Scadrians have soothers and rioters Showing a brave face for the sake of the men is impossible on Roshar. You will draw the spren showing your true feelings -
The Yolish version seems to be drastically inferior.
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Then why are their eyes red? Why do their forms match their functions? What are the people with enlightened spren doing? Why are their eyes not red?
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Lightweaving No oaths but truths. He does not want to be constrained. I suppose that was the reason he visited Ashyn.
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It is a system like the Aetherbound are. Preshattering. Today they draw on Odium's spren - but their eyes are red. In other words Odium is again fueling an alien system, just like he fuels Surgebinding in case of the Fused. How can the Eila stele ban using the power of spren, unless the ban predates the arrival of humans? Hence the original source must be different spren.
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Wind and Truth has told us very little about the origin of the Regals and their powers. However, it has added to the timeline and the possible sources. Let me summarize what I consider the relevant facts Regals predate the arrival of Odium [Eila Stele] Regals have red eyes There are more than ten kinds of Regals From that I would draw one important conclusion: They are not voidbinding What does that leaves us with? Given that magic systems without Shards and predating Shards definitely exist (Aethers, Sho Del, Dragons and microkinesis) I think that Regals are using the magic system of the old gods Night, Wind and Truth (and possibly some fourth old god associated with the fourth moon).
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Or sadistic torturer, turning suffering into a form of art. Devotion and Odium would form the Shard of Jealousy.
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is retribution stronger than harmony?
Oltux72 replied to Blue-phoenix186's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I'd say because in Mercy's view it may be better for the war to end quickly in cataclysm rather everybody suffer for millenia.- 12 replies
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This may be a very stupid question, but why didn't he just go home? What does this tell us about Roshar? Sure he does not want to bring harm to the people he cares about. But why does he have to worry? Isn't Sigzil a war hero? The man who kept the Fused from taking Narak? What does this tell us about Roshar? Is the Night Brigade that powerful? Or can we draw conclusions about the rulers of Roshar? Would they simply hand him over and take the money, because they are not on his side?
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Those forces, if they came, would not just come nicely, kindly help the Rosharans and then depart peacefully. The Rosharans would be lucky if such a force wouldn't just see Roshar as a whole as the problem. And in that case they would not just depart and return the territories they just spent blood to conquer to the natives.
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"necessarily" is not a base for a sound policy. You are proposing that they refight a war they already lost against a coalition that is stronger without a ready source of Investiture while breaking a peace treaty with a Shard without a Shard on their side while a victory may or may not destroy the world I am sorry, but that is not a viable policy.
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To people. That will not do. At least the greatshells will die without a source of Investiture. The whole ecology would collapse. (Sunlit Man)
