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  1. Phantom Monstrosity
    Well, it'll be cool whenever it comes out!
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    No sweat man; I try not to get worked up about this type of stuff. Anyway, comparison thread is up, but I only have one chart to transcribe. Do you happen to have a feruchemy print, or a copy of the mistborn RPG handy? I remember feeling bummed that the RPG feruchemy chart had just the names on it, but I don't remember if they had a fleshed-out allomancy chart.
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    Okay, so a couple years back (beginning of 2011) I emailed Brandon about something, and forgot about an interesting tidbit in the response. I don't think I've seen anyone come up with hints from comparing versions of the charts. Since there are apparently some of them there, I think we should start looking at them. Okay, got four different charts up in this thread. I hope that this doesn't tick off the admins. Let's get cracking. Thanks a lot, Morderkaine! Toss him an upvote, people. Just to clarify here - this is well after the chart and HoA, so it shouldn't be 'atium is a god metal'. I was asking for a clarification on how the Big Allomantic Chart fit with the story, after all, and the Big Allomantic Chart already has it in a seperate category.
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    I'm not sure he necessarily meant 'two quadrants' as anything more than 'eight metals', but whatever. We can't get any more info out of that quote by chewing over it.
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    Brandon's also been pretty firm on the quadrants being something that people have organized in-universe, and has mentioned that the charts can be inaccurate EDIT: adding question Incidentally, I think we should start a new thread to hunt down the 'There are also hints if you compare versions of the chart to each other'.
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    They could have divided it into a non-quadrant way, though. Call them 'segments' or something.
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    It's got a quadrant of 'hybrid metals' instead of two of physical. The chart is obviously based off in-universe understanding. Point of order: Terrismen have no idea what they're doing. But yeah I will agree that investiture and 'magical power' is generally stored in the spiritual realm, along with your spiritweb. I am just very reluctant to put anything nonmagical into spiritual.
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    I interpret it as 'feruchemy used to have the same quadrant breakdown, and now it doesn't'. The question is clearly referring to the quadrants, and it is indeed the case that 'stealing allomancy' doesn't line up (external physical pushing/internal mental pushing/internal enhancement pulling). [incidentally, that means that the temporal stealing metal should probably be external temporal pulling - cadmium] The other way of reading it doesn't make sense - there are spikes of a particular metal that are always in the same location on inquisitors. Two of them, steel, one in each eye. Or kandra blessings/koloss spikes, which are always in the same places.
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    That's an in-universe construct, though. We know that the quadrants in feruchemy don't line up with allomancy, and on that chart they do. Same with hemalurgy - it doesn't line up consistently.
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    Deterimination is the one that got its metal switched with warmth.
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    I'm saying that blaming 'Returned can shapeshift' on having more cognitive stuff in their Big Breath doesn't really make sense. It has exactly as much to do with the cognitive realm as being immune to disease and poison. You've got a theory about how awakening works, involving copying the awakener's cognitive aspect onto a blank slate. But we know that divine breaths already have a big scoop of cognitive in them, and they can be used for awakening. So you've got a big barrel of side cognitive stuff, which should by all rights interfere if it works like you've said. Also Determination is cognitive.
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    And the disease immunity you get from normal breaths isn't? Wouldn't having a big pile of cognitive combined with the spiritual prevent the typical cognitive realm shenanigans you're theorizing for normal awakening? And when Vivenna goes Drab, the annotations mention that how she sees the world and how she acts is influenced by being a drab. And being a drab causes depression. Oh, hey, so does storing Determination, which is cognitive. I mean, if you're sticking gravity, how people see the world, people's emotions, their immunity to disease, their memories and skills, and all this other stuff into the spiritual realm, what's the point of having the other two realms at all? It certainly seems like this theory is over-assigning things to a spiritual realm explanation.
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    That's explained in my quote above. Koloss and Inquisitors have four and over a dozen spikes, respectively. As such, they've always got ruin influence even when they're not doing anything. Kandra only have two, so they're less vulnerable. I mean think about Vin - she never got hijacked by Ruin. He could mess with her emotions and talk to her, but he couldn't actually ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL. Same with Spook, Citizen USSR, and Penrod - they were being manipulated, but they weren't being puppeteered. The Koloss, on the other hand, get puppeteered easily, but Ruin still has a hard time keeping a grip on them when they're in the middle of a rage (but hey they're killing things anyway, so who cares). Kandra are actually a little more vulnerable than I'd expect them to be.
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    Ah, cool. I vaguely remember reading something about WoK' being released once it was no longer spoileriffic, or after book 10... I can't find the info anymore. Is that actually planned, or is it just a rumor? Having an Alternate Universe book written by the same author would be pretty cool... actually, hmm... if it wasn't spoilery, would you guys consider releasing it in the Stormlight Drought (aka: the Weeping of Fans) between books five and six?
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    Well, he's apparently quite stable, at least at the moment
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    I wouldn't exactly say 'luck'. The Lord Ruler made the kandra and wrote up the Resolution as part of Preservation's master plan. Ruin was perfectly accurate in thinking he could take over any kandra in a few seconds if he wanted to. They were just too useless for him to bother with. After all, for the price of a kandra, it'd be far easier for him to control several koloss, and giant deadly ogres are way more destructive. And I mean, Brandon says in the annotations that the kandra only had a few moments before being taken over, and that's with being shielded by metal.
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    He just said upset the balance - it isn't necessarily between ruin and preservation.
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    Yeah, but Ruin was ignoring them. He assumed he could get the kandra on a whim, without any effort on his part - and with his hands tied by grappling with preservation, there was no need of him to waste power taking control of something that was pretty useless There's another quote that says something along the lines of 'ruin didn't care about the kandra because they were useless for killing things', but I can't find it atm. Interesting question. I'm leaning towards koloss being effectively genderless, since they can only breed through spiking people. I know there are female inquisitors as well, but...
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    Not really easily transformed. It takes quite a long time of Ruin working on a guy to succeed at all, and even then his success rate was never very high. And Kandra are very logical and thoughtful. They had just two spikes, only needed to resist for a few seconds, had trained themselves over a long period for just this circumstance, and not all of them succeeded, either.
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    Honestly I am not onboard with gravity being spiritual. The whole theory about this is based on these quotes: I don't think that it implies that gravity is inherently spiritual. Personally, I think that it just implies the bubbles are just spiritually linked to the planet, which means it's forced to share a variety of traits, including its gravity. We have the WoK epigraph as well, but again it seems more like it's adding spiritual interference (it's 'effectively' creating a change, but that implies that it isn't really acting on gravity itself). It is also weird that the epigraph writer would clarify the 'spiritual gravitational bond' unless there were other kinds of gravity involved. And, we also have this: So physics works in the physical realm. The spiritual realm makes things magical (which might include weird things like falling horizontally), but it doesn't impart physics to them. Mass is also physical realm (we know from feruchemy), and gravity is defined by mass. Aside from that, we know splinters are a blend of spiritual and cognitive. Divine Breaths are splinters, so divine breaths are, at least, a blend of cognitive and spiritual. They act exactly the same as normal breaths in terms of heightenings, and can even be used for Awakening. So I don't think you can say 'normal Breaths are purely spiritual' or even 'primarily spiritual'.
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    I'm pretty sure that's just a statement of their loyalty, nothing more fundamental.
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    Did you see the link? If not, use this one instead.
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    Well, there's leeway as well. Vin mentions that pewter that's slightly off will just give you less bang for your buck.
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    What can I say? Brandon's books are all about talking horses that talk about their feelings.
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    Well, he could just be making atium and hand-delivering it to Marsh to keep him ticking. And since preservation and ruin can fuel both magic systems, boring answer is that he just uses it to give people some extra allomantic power or whatever. Or I guess he could just be like blowing up a moon from time to time.
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