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    Lol everyone is saying this... did I just come across super mean last game and people assumed thats my normal or something? Lol Im all for a tie... however, if theres a tie and a villager dies then Alv is evil obviously : P to those i havent pmed yet im sorry. sorill be back on later but probably not to open more PMs. Feel free to PM me or ill finish opening PMs at night if im still alive. quick rundown from my PMs, im highly confident that the elims flooded the town with smokers. I may or may not have already said this but im on mobile so im not going to check. In honor of good honest ties, ill move my vote to Araris and @Doc12 (or someone else) can vote on me lol Fura Araris
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    There are 16 players so my gut says probably 4 elims. In a v!coinshot game I could see there being 5 elims, but with elims choosing the distro there's no way there's 5 this game. I was going to say a decent bit more about my role distro guess but this game seems surprisingly more PM safe than some past ones soooo... I'm not going to share any thoughts yet on what I think the role distro actually is... but I suspect currently that the elims didn't touch the rioter/soother roles. I think Araris is still doing that by advocating for a player's death. Even though it's not a strong read, if Araris or Stick flips evil later, this info will still be helpful. I will say, I haven't played with you in years @Araris Valerian... but what happened to the bloodthirstiness? lol Some people have been commenting on my Doc vote? idk to be frank I've been talking to Doc about how I'm going to get revenge for last game so that was just a reference to that. It wasn't even really a poke, hence why I moved it once I had a vote I was somewhat interested in... Also... I... don't know how to respond to calling my post chatgpt-ish?? I can't believe you'd say something so hurtful to a fellow villager : P I will say a lot of my posts are very rambly and I usually start games trying to write more concise and direct and then fall apart quickly... but I do like being straight to the point lol. I haven't unvoted TJ? I haven't posted in hours. To be honest, if I was not me this game I'd start to be strangely suspicious of the whole conversation around me. You're hedging hard on me, Araris and IHAT immediately jump to my defense advocating for counter trains. Ookla the Story saying they're potentially sus with no vote. Then Honor jumps in and "pokes" the leading counter train... I very much trust Ookla the Redeemed atm... the going after me and Araris feels good even though I disagree with logic on both. Anyways, I'm very pro new-trains and chaos and Im not liking the TJ train at the moment so... TJ Fura Edit: TJ (3): Exp/Ookla the Counter, Ookla Broken, Vessel of Honor Stick (2): Mippo (Ookla the Story), Araris Fura(2): Ookla the Redeemed/Hoid, Fura Hoid (the Redeemed) (1): IHAT/Ookla the Broken Pooh Bear (1): Jo Jo (1): Twin/Ookla the Wanderer TOW (the Hoppy) (1): KSauce/Ookla the Wallfacer
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    Stick already said what I was going to say about the rules but it doesn't seem to me you are treating My and Sticks posts the same way despite us making the same joke. Additionally, you're saying you are v!leaning me in a post because my joke doesn't understand the rules (making it seem like you do understand the rules) and then later in the post asking Drake for clarification on the same rule. Seems to be to be possibly setting up a flip on me. Also not applying what you said to Stick makes me think a TJ-Stick team is possible Doc TJ
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    Ikr? But dont worry everyone, I added a bunch of tineyes so PMs will never close! In all seriousness, Doc, you outplayed me last game and i cant let that stand xD so Doc
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    Oh what the heck I'll join as "As Exp" largely because I legitimately thought Counter was Kas and that was the joke lol I'm going to intentionally lower my activity this game as I think I need to not make these games my entire life when I'm playing them but I'll still be pretty active lol. Also hi Stick! it's been a long time!
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    I appreciate the ping but I won't be able to do a LG. Just came back for last game due to the stars aligning.
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    Idk i think that this is a convo we've been having since I first joined... I think there are several factors in this... but the best way to combat it are to generally be welcoming, active, and visible. Basically what TUH... TUM? Said. Like, find the way you enjoy to play, make friends, and include new players in those friendships. I found SE because I made a welcome post and people made me aware of the Alleyverse (rip) and SE. And I was most active while in high school/community college. Some players like me, find talking in docs really fun... so i will just keep going and going. Other players would primarily chat with their friends in docs/pms. If you look at the doc from last game, you'll see a long discussion between Doc and me was about how underrated The Last Jedi was. Alternatively, LG56 iirc there was a lot of analysis happening in the doc to try to solve the game. Things like this extend doc length... but if its not fun to you/current players, then that isn't a type of activity you should be measuring. I would encourage you to skim/search the meta discussion where iirc this conversation happened a few times and that might be a good place to voice concerns as well.
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    Personally I think it makes sense to have conditional actions by default be unallowed. I think conditionals can kind of open a can of worms where you now need a whole set of rules about what you are/aren't allowed to do conditionals on. I also think it could raise questions about conditional NKs and conditional votes. All of which (especially votes) would add potentially a lot of work to GMs at rollover... and then what if 2 people have conditional actions that would somehow affect the other person's condion or action? I also think in a game where people dont know conditional actions are allowed, it makes sense to ban it as other people may have been doing them if they knew. (Probably wouldn't have affected me as I was always on during rollover, but others weren't) I think the upside is people who cant be online at rollover can still interact with that game state to a degree, but I don't think that outways the concerns earlier about complicating the game and needing a set of rules/guidelines. That being said, I think a ruleset that includes conditional actions would be interesting to try to see if my concerns are unfounded and if it works... I will also say, thinking about a ruleset that is made around the idea/expectation that people will submitting conditional actions sounds very fun to me. Like possibly not knowing what you did last night because you dont know if your condition was met or not and needing to figure that out...
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    Wow what an amazing game. First id like to thank @DrakeMarshall for running this game. Definitely a wild one to be my first in 4-5 years lol. The rules were deceptively simple but allowed for some great creativity in plays on both sides. A ton of fun! I think by this point in the game it definitely makes sense for the rebels to win. Incredible how lucky the village ended up being though and how dramatic this all turned out! What a great way to end a game. I will say, it was funny I was picked to be the ISB Successer as well as get 2/2 of the used tech charges xD. People really wanted to trust me ig this game which I think is a first... and ironically the game where I kept claiming evil lol. Congrats to the Rebels. @TwinStorm you did a good job staying under the radar when quite a few people were suspicious of you. Also great job on making a dead drop that Doc figured out but no one in village did. @STINK im sorry you died C1. I feel like that happens every time we are in a game together xD. But I enjoyed reading your thoughts and strategies and talking to you in the dead doc! @Hoid Slayer was fun to read your thoughts in the elim doc. @Divergent im so sorry for hammering you at the end there... it turns out even if I did nothing the vote may have still been tied... rip... I really enjoyed playing with you and hope to see you in more games! @Doc12 Im not sure if ive played a game with you before (pretty sure at least one though idr right now) but i really enjoyed our PM and trying to outsmart you this game. Wasn't able to do it this time but next time there's a game where elims dont know each other I'll be better prepared : P . I also loved our conversations in the dead doc. Oh yeah, you also played an amazing game. The PM exchange where you lied and I claimed evil to you is definitely one of my favorite PM exchanges ive had in a game lol. Also incredible catch/snipe on CD. @Kasimir you did really good analysis and were super villagery this game. I have a tendancy to tin foil, and i had to keep reminding myself you were probably a villager... Im glad I was able to send the tech to you, though im sorry I didnt think far enough in advance to send you a more useful role in that stage of the game. @Booknewt i had a lot of fun working with you this game. Fantastic first game and instincts. I know you have some previous experience but forum mafia + new community/meta can always be hard I think. @Argenti I owe you an appology for pushing you so much during the game. I legitimately thought you werent posting but when i did my post by post analysis D4 or 5 idr i realized you had been and I needed to give reads more based off that. Despite reading your as a rebel all game, I did tell doc I didnt want to vote on you D4 after your interaction with TwinStorm. It felt too villagery. @IHadAThought sorry for killing you at the end there. Wanted to move off Argenti and gave you or TwinStorm as options and of course doc suggested you over TwinStorm lol. I hope you had fun and would love to see you in more games! @Experience thanks for my first tech! It helped me check Doc and Hoid which was incredibly helpful this game. Unfortunate we didnt get to talk more : / @KaladinsSenseOfHumorSpren @CoderDrag0n8 great plays with choosing successors. Knowing me I probably would have picked Doc D1 and died C1 xD. @The Unknown Misting it was great meeting you this game. Seems I elim read you a little too fast lol. @ThatOneWorldhopper what a great end! Picking Doc this last cycle was clutch and you were able to take a almost guarenteed loss to a 50/50. @Aeternum while you were only here the last cycle, very much apreciate you coming in and doing so much analysis so late in the game. I always enjoy reading your analysis in our games Anways, great game. Im glad I got to continue my legacy of being obnoxious in docs. I think i added 15 pages in 24 hours after I died and when Doc joined it got longer very fast (helps when you find out you are both very passionate about the same media beliefs xD) Awwww ok. Doc beats me even in death xD. I guess Kimrick really has gotten old xD Also, I'm glad I got a chance to prove Drake wrong. You said no one is ever willing to pass items, so I said to myself before the game started I'd pass one if I could... and then I got one and was like, no... I can do so much good with this item and I dont want to accidentally pass to a rebel... but then D4 when I got another I figured that it frankly wouldn't be as useful to me as the previous one. Also figured there was a good chance id die unless the elims thing im protected, so passing makes sense... in retrospect, I could have saved myself... but I didnt think about that because obviously surveillance is the best role in the game xD So I sent Kas surveillance and kinda lost us the game when if I sent vote manip or medic charge we may have been better off edit: aaannddddd thats another loss for me... I was just going through my old games and my win/loss record is so bad xD
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    I'll admit, I'm not the most familiar with obscure Elantris lore either. Also haven't reread in a long time... Though iirc there was a whole mini arc about finding out what these words meant... Ninja'd RIP was about to say very confidently I'm more aware of obscure Stormlight lore. welp... I know obscure Star Wars lore! I'll stick to that xD
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    I had a dream the elim team hammered and used a ton of vote manipulation on this vote... so just to be safe: Duel Definitely if not TOW, Booknewt. Ok going back to bed lol Edit: @ThatOneWorldhopper game technically isn't over until we know you died between you and TwinStorm. Drake is asking if we want to do a coinflip to decide or a duel. The duel has a set of rules to it to decide who dies you can find earlier in the thread. It seems like most people want the duel(me included)... but if you don't want to do the duel you're allowed to pick a champion to fight for you
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    Since I cant RP here once the next day starts... Kimrick saw lightsabers drawn. "For the Empire!" He shouted and dove behind a wall pulling out his blaster. He would save his career. He would be a hero! As the two (currently unidentified lol) figures circled, Kimrick eyed the figure illuminated in [insert color rebel picks] and took aim. To his surprise, his hands were steady. Steadier then he remembered being even in his prime. Settling into the blaster, he waited for his moment. It wasn't his first time shooting at a Jedi, but this time he would succeed. The Hammyr would strike again! He saw an opening Shot fired Shot connected! Shot continued through the wall opposite the Jedi. Unnoticed by anyone in the room. "Blasts!" He shouted, throwing the blaster at the ground. He forgot he was just a force ghost.
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    Wait theres a game with lightsabers?? When was that?
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    Boo!
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    No I did mean for that if you were open to it "Oh thank goodness it's you!" Kimrick looks around to make sure no one else is there, "there may have been yet another... ahem... security breach and im working on tracking it down" kimrick holds out his hand for the drive
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    "Nej, we have a problem" Kimrick said as he rounded the office corner. His assistant sat there at their desk. "They got into my computer. Why wasn't it flagged immediately?" Nej looked taken aback, "are you uh... sure?" Kemrick saw her glance at her computer and leaped over the desk to see she was actively pruning files to cover the tracks. . . . Kemrick pushed Nej's limp body out of the way and started copying what little evidence was left onto their drive. He thought back on his career. One he would lose, and worse, if he couldn't recover the files. Of course, he used to be the ISB's best fixer... but that was many years ago. He'd been in an office so long he didn't know if he still had it in him. He remembered each strike like it was yesterday. . . . Kimrick raced out of the room, wasn't enough to trace the theft, but maybe it could help with something... BAM He ran straight into Reka Wismil as she entered the building... and his drive flew across the room...
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    I think this is coreect Ace(1): Kas Argenti(1): TwinStorm Hoid Slayer(1): TOW Twinstorm(2): Argenti, IHAT Fura(1): Booknewt IHAT(2): Fura, Doc
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    Have you ever realized how crazy it is that people call him Mando... like, short for mandalorian... his home planet... kinda racist...
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    Personally I think your logic comes down to either Im evil or Slayer is evil because one of us has to be lying about our messages. This isn't a true assumption as there can be multiple messages. Slayers message was weird but there are other possibilities than slayer being evil or me being evil for it. Im a surveillance person. I scanned Hoid Slayer and got no action. This means they didnt submit a kill request last night and therefore I don't want them executed today. They could be evil but I wouldn't bet it today. Rather, I'd like to execute one of the lesser active players that are frantically trying not to die.
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    Post deleted... gonna try again hopefully it doesnt double post Lol I go to my phone and the world blows up. I mean frankly @Booknewt, im happy to die though you're give reasons why im more likely to be good... and then say there are lots of reasons, those reasons being you can only find one post of Hoid defending Dive. I think your getting caught up in deepwolf worlds where I knowingly bussed a teammate almost certainly without their consent and im not a big fan of worlds where I do that. The simple answer is usually the right one. Frankly, I think the evil team might be canabalizing themselves here? Its tough cause there's not a ton to go on but everyone is panicking they might die and the only village role that might feel that way is supervisor... and even then soooo Argenti IHAT/Lotus
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    Kimrick watched the bloodbath commence from a nearby rooftop. Of course, he knew that some of these fighters were true Imperials and others were responsible for the rebel leaks... Ahhh the rebels. Commendable of course, but true change must come from inside the system. Those without the knowledge and ability to seize their opportunities were doomed to fight each other. What would they replace the Empire with anyways? Without a solid plan a new empire would just rise in it's place. Better to serve and wait... and wait... and wait! What was that? A glint from under someone's cloak that looked like... Hammyr sped towards his computer, they couldn't have gotten one of his files could they? if they had... He didn't want to think about what the supervisor might do. Punching in a few buttons he saw a physical file withdraw request made 15 minutes ago. But how did they gain access... Luckily this could be fixed, the rebels had forgotted to clear the logs... Anyways... votecount! Ace(1): Kas Argenti(3): Fura, Doc, TwinStorm Hoid Slayer(1): TOW Twinstorm(2): Argenti, IHAT
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    Continued: (I like using "shift-enter" for formatting but this is the second time this game I hit "control-enter" instead : / IHadAThought - Slight Rebel Frankly don't have a ton of thoughts on them. Mostly asking questions and participating in thread doing a good job keeping conversation moving. Does tend to get defensive both reactively and, more importantly to me, proactively. Proactive defensiveness is a big red flag to me and that happened D3 with all the confusion going on Lotus seemed to think they were going to be voted on/targeted when no one really was... Other than Doc kinda. Kasimir - ISB Again, didn't reach out to Dive and absolutely didn't have to support the execution on them for a variety of reasons. Been a major source of info in thread and PMs, has been doing a ton of analysis and work... so much so that I frankly wouldn't even consider Kas being evil until tomorrow. Not necessarily because he can't be but he is putting so much into this game that I don't think he's evil but if he is I'd rather go after others first in case we are wrong if that makes sense. Kas, get some sleep take today off xD After all of this, I think the best vote is Argenti. It's worth mentioning that all in all, I have 4 living sus reads totaling 6 rebels. I think if this was the actual team, it would make sense to make it 6 as, as far as I can tell, Argenti, Lotus, and Dive are all new players making half the rebel team new in a game where they don't know each other. It's a bit tough... But I'm probably not 100% right that would be wild. Anyways Argenti
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    General Thoughts on remaining players. TwinStorm - Rebel Is online regularly so not just inactive. I've been getting a general elim vibe from a few of their posts. Was defensive about voting on village then defensive about being defensive later (sorry no good way out of that one lol). Yesterday implied them dying would end the game and voted in self preservation. Having all of Doc, Kas, and me in your village reads seems off to me as well. Possibly just saying we are village because we are/were some of the loudest people. Hoid was in V!reads as well and idk why as that's never elaborated on. In a post where 60% of it was defending themselves, they went on to say they were going to do analysis. That analysis was saying analyzing posts won't help us and someone more active should analyze dead drops. I just don't think anything I'm seeing makes me feel like there's a village mindset here. Doc12 - Lean ISB Posts broadly pushing for more info in thread and has been doing a lot of work in PMs. Also best fits my expectations for the author behind the "friendly" ISB traitor. I'll be honest I also enjoy our PMs. Didn't seem to warn Dive. Will elaborate under Booknewt. Booknewt - ISB 1. Ok, so I might have flubbed it really bad, but D3 I claimed evil to them. I did this because my message told me to say durasteel if I was a rebel to Booknewt, Kas, and Dive as one of them is a Rebel. I felt like I directly implied I was evil at one point and Booknewt took it as me claiming they were evil. If this was a traditional game where the evil team knows who each other are, I might be sus of this. However, I believe all evil players will be looking for signs of other ones as they can't afford to kill too many of themselves off. If Book was evil I think they would have caught my claim. Especially as there was a claim from Hoid that they got a message saying one of Booknewt, Fura, Ace was evil... but obviously I know I'm not evil, Ace doesn't make sense at all to include as they wouldn't have sent it, being inactive and how would another rebel find them out to be evil if they are inactive (short of rebel spy but why would they pick someone inactive?). That only leaves Booknewt. If book was evil and in on this, they should not have been caught off guard by me claiming evil. Unless I really messed up my claim and was super confusing : / 2. I told them about Dive last night and asked them for help with votes which they did. I fully explained why I thought Dive was evil (heavily implied evil in PMs) and they could have gone and checked in with Dive in a bunch of different ways to warn or see if they were evil. Seeing that Dive flipped Tech and having received a tech charge last night, I believe Dive was not warned of what I was doing and I believe I have his charge. This means None of the people I told last night (Doc, Booknewt, Kas) seemingly told Dive anything about me. 3. Posts have had good analysis. There is some sus stuff in there... but most of is is slightly sus in an early game with no info. Reads yesterday and today are worth far more than reads D1-2 imo. Argenti - Rebel I feel like there's an attempt to almost actively avoid giving analysis. They seem to be online a lot and have posted far more times than I thought they had. But the reason is, most posts are a sentence or two and not contributing beyond a vote. They mentioned they are acting based on vibes, and that is totally fine, but every post where anyone asks them to have thoughts about the game Argenti abdicates all responsibility for anything happening in the game saying they don't understand. I've played with many players who don't understand and have been one before. In my experience those players are usually semi-active or asking questions. Neither of which fits here. The only person they've apparently been suspicious of this game is TwinStorm. Here is their vote history: D1 - No Vote, D2 - TwinStorm, D3 - TwinStorm. Both times they were the only vote on TwinStorm. ThatOneWorldhopper - Neutral D2 posts look pretty fine ig. The only person we know had the connection between Coder-KSOHS but also as it was public definitely not a black mark on TOW. Going through posts it looks like in a PM with Hoid Slayer I thought one of TOW's posts was actually Hoid's so whoops xD Ninja'd by TOW and... Argenti doing the same thing again. D4 I don't think there's much to go on. Votes make sense for reasons given though, as I believe Dive sent me their tech, I believe Dive didn't know of any other evils which means Hoid Slayer who hard defended Dive several times in different ways may have been doing so by coincidence. Hoid Slayer - Slight Rebel... idk... There's reasons to say rebel but also reasons not to kill today I think. As mentioned in bold above, Hoid Slayer worked hard to protect Dive HOWEVER, who sent me the tech if not Dive? If Hoid Slayer and Dive knew each other were evil, why not send it to the safer option? Secondly, Hoid critically did not vote yesterday. The train on Argenti was there for a long time and Hoid could have just thrown a vote there and they would have avoided Dive being in any apparent risk. If Hoid is a rebel and didn't know Dive was evil, why defend so hard? Hoid was acting very strange in PMs claiming I was evil but only because he saw me how he sees everyone and when I asked to role swap told me they would consider if I claimed publicly? Which makes no logical sense to me why they would specifically ask me to do that. There was some other weird stuff I won't share in thread. Lastly, Hoid using the phrase, "Friendly Neighborhood Observer" doesn't mean they are the Friendly Neighborhood ISB Traitor, however, it is curious. Could be an attempted signal to others though I'm not sold on that. ACE - Inactive IHadAThought - Slight Rebel Kasimir - ISB Edit: Dang it wasn't done. can someone post under me pls? lol
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    Actually speaking of TOW: So.... I missed this when it was posted, but I bet someone didn't and is probably explains why someone was putting the kill on Coder. I'm somewhat surprised by Kas/Doc/Me being still alive if we are all ISB. Booknewt has been super active in thread as well though I could see people avoiding killing them due to the apperant overlap in message info yesterday. That tells me that whoever submitted this kill is carefully going through the thread... which... I already think narrows down suspects quite a lot xD. Of course, it could also be a kill submitted by TOW. Below is my attempt to analyze my dead drops: The "Sign Off" message from D2 that I think Kas organized info best in this post (not comprehensive) That's the same as the planets one right? It's worth Noting that Kas and I got both that and this one seemingly by the same person. Kas, was you message yesterday in the same style as this? Regardless, POE I think your message yesterday would be most likely be from the ISB Killer even if the style is different. Ok this was my attempt to analyze these messages... I think I'm going to go back to my usual player analysis for further posts cause this was hard lol
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    Hey Argenti! I see you're in the thread. I'd love to get some of your thoughts on the game so far. It can be anything but I'd love for it to come with a vote. You've had several votes on you a few days in a row and almost got executed yesterday. Argenti for now
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