Dysphoric Kitten

Good luck with the fonts! Um... What spelling errors? I mean - whose? The SoS in steel alphabet is wicked! (or should I say: "chrome-tin-bendalloy-tin-copper!") Don't get all academic and Lord Ruler on me! I am so good in English, I know it better than my storming mother tongue! Now, understand this: In every situation (take "yellow"), y acts either like an i (same as ee, for the most part), or like an ai (the letter i's name). Yellow = Yell Owe = Ye Low = I Ellow ​Dry = Dr Ai Amy = (you got the idea) --- Just for clarity, this psuedo-angry paragraph is a humorous take on people lecturing others. Now, for the record, I get it that this does not matter, and will agree to leave the topic, since it bothers the rest of the thread, until someone else stirs it up again.

As for the Feruchemical bendalloy/Feruchemical copper/Feruchemical tin argument, consider posts 18-19 here.

I hate copper. But this section made me think: perhaps you can atomicize all storing? Which would mean that keepers used it atomicized because it is more precise. But, in practical situations, it is better to have quantitive copper, which exists. You could store anything like that, and you would be able to compound copper normally. Try atomized Feruchemical pewter. Makes sense. When compounding atomicized properties, you transfer the metalmind into a new one, and get a copy, only one, dumped onto you, as if tapped. With copper, you get the metalmind store in your metalmind of choice, and have all knowledge in your head as well. No increase in detail or something, that makes no sense, except if Harmony is watching over you. Shadesmar portal FOR THE WIN!

I am not sure where I read this, but I know I read about a 50 year... Forget it. No citation, dismiss this. Sorry.

I understood that part, but who did he want to upvote? I did not get that.

If the fonts have changed, I will still use the FE fonts, most probably, because they look better, in all regards and aspects. At least to me. There is no distinction between why's Y and yellow's Y. Or, more correctly, I do not see any such distinctionion. Both are pronounced Yi, so there should not be a Y at all. When checking here (inkthinker's wobsite, second row, second from left), the words "Hemalurgy" , "Allomancy" , "Feruchemy" , "you" , "eyes" , "body" and "by" use Nicrosil. If J is not 19, what is? Not Z, J, Th, Q, X, and probably not Kh1. Please do confirm this, the photo is not of good enough resolution that I can say my judgement is absolute. Notes: 1. Z is Aluminium J is Nicrosil Th is TH - Bronze 19 Q is just K - Bendalloy X is KS - Bendalloy Duraluminium Kh is not going to be used Kolo?

Well, storm it. I also discovered that Kh was one of my delusions, and does not exist (now it will never work with Hebrew!). Metal 19 now is officially J, in my book, and Aluminium officially Z. Note that the four added metals are not sound-paired, at least not so well. Thank you! This was not that much effort, though. The most effort in this was actually drawing it all. I did pay it just a bit of excessive thought, something which I usually do when writing. Thanks, again. Do you mean the profile picture Valk has? It does not appear to follow correct form, for example: The second letter (Valkynphyre) is A. Which means Lerasium. Not only does the second symbol not look even close to Lerasium (it is composed of two circles, instead of one, has two, not three, spikes, and there is no curving spike, when two should curve), it does not resemble anything we know of (I checked each char), except maybe Zinc (which is the following one) Cromium (still skewed), both of which do not sound like an A. Sorry, I cannot check anything myself, for I do not own copies of written works of Sanderson, especially this one. No, I will not change Nicrosil, because this is info I got from the original post. I do think, however, that we should ask Valk to recheck his notes, and confirm that Nicro is Y and there are no metals other than the 23 in the chapter headers. Photos of the writing pad I worked on: Full - in the corner, the scribbled letters are the part headers Analysis - sorry it is slightly fuzzy. and that I have confusing eraser marks, like the Aluminium ones.

I make a habit of explaining my side of things. Somehow, almost every time (happens very frequently with Comatose on MBI) I do, the person disagreeing with me takes it as if I was offended (this is very hard to do, and I always try to look at the best side of people), and backs down as if trying to remain friendly. So do not feel bad. I am used to strange arguements and such. Yeah, we love you, Kurk! Seriously, I like disagreeing, as long as it is non-heated, academic, explained disagreement. Which it was. And Pech, I have no idea who that +1 -1 part was aimed at. Would you mind clarifying?

Well, Vasher, I urge you to continue loving it all. I usually rate it: Mistborn - Just so epic! I frequently wonder about things that could be really cool about it. And I wonder about copper compounding. My first Sandersonian work. Stormlight - So storming well-written! Also, other reasons I do not remember as of right now. Elantris - Same as above, except for the curseword. Warbreaker - Last only because I barely remember it. While I read the others many times, this one somehow got neglected. Will probably reread soon. May I introduce you to the MBI site? It is our (the 17thshard's) official Mistborn RPG, set in 918FE (100 years before Mistborn). I am new there, but already have six characters and two houses in the works. You can find me there by the same name - Humanomusician. I love helping anyone with writing (or anything else), and open to conversing about almost anything.

One hour of being Breathless/drab for one and a fifth minute of first whatchamacallit. Or something similar.

Ok, this is getting out of hand. A. I did want an emphasis, and italics feels, to me, as a minor emphasis, easily overlooked. On the other hand, when I want a bigger emphasis, I bold or underline. Shouting is formatted as ALL CAPS, YOU STORMING HERO OF AGES!! FEAR MY CAPITALS!!! B. Sorry, I did not mean it like that... FjorDor is neutral (still seems like an excuse for homicide, it not being negative, though).

I actually use Feruchamy all the time. Used Gold, Zinc, Brass and Tin today. All storing. So, yeah, while being a keeper would be EPIC (my favourite powerset), I have tasted this forbidden fruit. I am now aspiring to be Twinborn. Double Copper, Double Zinc, Double Tin is epic, Allomantic brass and FDuraluminium, Double Lerasium. Or some others, as well, but still, those are awesome.

I apologise, Kurk. I bold occasionally, to make sure everyone gets me correctly. It's a habit, a useful one, and I use it regularly. Please do not be offended. I have not read the Emperor's Soul. So... not a clue. Ok, you are correct about the Dula fighting. And about the artificiality. Again, I did not know of the other two, and it seemed to fit well. And it just seems wrong (and unsandersonian) for a sacrifice to be neutral or positive. For one, there needs to be a catch. More important reasons include that if all power is transferred, we can just go about killing people and nothing is lost.

WoK is about the same time as Mistborn modern.

Welcome! Could you rate the series? I find it interesting to discover why people like certain series more than others.

May I remind you that it is expilicitly said that each power granted by Dakhor requires sacrifices? That the number needed to make Dilaf's protection is huge? Look here: AonDor (+) power from Dor, Aons glow Dula fighting (=) power from self and movement, you and your trail glow Dakhor (-) power from others (like Hemalurgy), victim and practitioner's bones glow

You cannot make gemstones using stormlight (mentioned by Shallan). Why not make Lerasium? It is metal, and so you could soulcast Mistborn armies. I want to lash an Aon. Steel Ferring drawing Aons Zinc Ferring drawing Aons Ene and Sao. Infinite Zinc charge for the win!!! Brass Ferring with Ehe

Dakhor is end-negative.

Thread revival!!! Ok, I have something to add, but I want to ask a question or two first. How was the punctuation written? Did no other symbols show? Are you sure Th is T+H, not a different symbol? I would love to check it myself, but I have no copy... A. The chapter symbols are simply couplings. They are a non-pronouncable sequence1 that repeats itself, 23 characters long, interrupted only by the part changes (which are signified by three more symbols), and cut short by one (23x3-1=38 chapters) - the last Lerasium is missing. B. In FE (have not checked the others), the part headers (each three long, five of them) do not follow a pattern, each character is one letter long, and is inpronouncable. The result is TLR MGN BKZ PAF DOH (Z being aluminium). I have not checked where each interrupts the sequence. C. Assuming there is no Th char, but T+H, and assuming that Kh2is nonexistent, I think I have completed the last two metals (Aluminium and Metal 19) D. I have found a pattern. I put it all on the table in the coppermind. I added the rest (At, Mal, Ler, Metals 19-22) by their order (and pairing) in the chapter headers below. Then I made a table beside it with all roman phonetisations of the metals. Two metals were question marks (Aluminium, Metal 19). I noticed the M-N pair, then the D-T one, then all of them. See here: P-B | L-R O-E | D-T S-? | M-N Y-W| G-K V-F A ?-Ch | H-Sh They are all related! Now I looked at the missing list - Q, X, C, J, Th, Z, Kh. The first three are not needed, they have substitutes. Kh (scottish pronunciation of "LoCH Ness monster") was never heard in the books. Th appears as TH3. Z is needed, J appears (Thank you, KChan, for pointing Jestes Lekal out). Now, which one fits where? Z is Aluminium, paired with S (Duraluminium). Therefore, Metal 19 (paired with Ch, which is Metal 20) is J: P-B | L-R O-E | D-T S-Z | M-N Y-W| G-K V-F A J-Ch | H-Sh Metal names: (shortened to look like a table) Ste-Iro | Zin-Bra Pe-Tin | Co-Bro Du-Alu | Go-Ele Ni-Chr | Ca-Ben Ati-Mal Ler 19-20 | 21-22 Pictures4 of the notepad4 with the logic4 and all are in the notes4. Notes: 1. If you defy this notion, prove BPEO-LRDT-VF-MNWY-ZSGK-JChHSh-A (dashes added for comfort) can be pronounced. 2. I do not think I ever heard a Kh there. Nothing. Why have an unused letter? (for other languages, of course) 3. The writing "THE LORD RULER" appears there. A Th sign was not mentioned, so I guess there is not one. 4. Full - in the corner, the scribbled letters are the part headers Analysis - sorry it is slightly fuzzy. and that I have confusing eraser marks, like the Aluminium ones.

Thank you. I did know of the coppermind and recently saw the illustrations through the official BS site, but I did not know about most other sources.

It was not said. I am making a very educated and calculated guess that the thrill is not GENETICALLY HEREDITARY. If it is, I was wrong. If it is not, nothing in Kal's childhood has made him have the thrill, and it is said to be of the Alethi, who are the warring nation. I would say it is their culture around armies, and the more time you were in those, the more ingrained the thrill is. Therefore, according to my estimation (deliberate choice of words), the later, the more likely. Again, I just might be wrong. I did not deny the possibility, I said I deem it less likely. My previous paragraph applies here, too. Also, if you look at my original phrasing, you can see that I am leaning towards your position. I have a a slight tendency to make my statements closer to my conversation partners' views than I actually feel.

It was not said. I am making a very educated and calculated guess that the thrill is not GENETICALLY HEREDITARY. If it is, I was wrong. If it is not, nothing in Kal's childhood has made him have the thrill, and it is said to be of the Alethi, who are the warring nation. I would say it is their culture around armies, and the more time you were in those, the more ingrained the thrill is. Therefore, according to my estimation (deliberate choice of words), the later, the more likely. Again, I just might be wrong. I did not deny the possibility, I said I deem it less likely. My previous paragraph applies here, too. Also, if you look at my original phrasing, you can see that I am leaning towards your position. I have a a slight tendency to make my statements closer to my conversation partners' views than I actually feel.

I tend to be slightly mal-informed about certain things, including, but not limited to, things brandon says (where do I get a feed of those?) and book addatives (since I audioread many books, and, well, the pages from Navani's notebooks were not included, in this instance).

This seems likely, although I'm not certain we have any example beyond Raoden to back it up. Um.. Galledon (farming), Mareshe (art), Karata (her child). These are very highly probable, as well as a lower indication with Dashe (soldiering), Kahar (cleaning). Kolo?

Added fifth question. I just read something claiming Nicro can convert another feruchemist's minds into investiture, which bugs me like hell, since it breaks the whole taken-from-self idea. Thoughts (including some on the fifth question) are welcome.