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Nightwatcher Boon/Bane (Game)
Tineye Navigator replied to killersquirrel59's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Granted! You now have eternal youth, and are a worldhopper. You now are stuck to have the intelligence of your 7 year old self for the rest of your immortal existence. I wish to become powerful enough to unsplinter Aona and Skai, while maintaining immunity from Odium and still maintaining the goodwill to actually do so. -
You are correct, I did mean gold. Sometimes I just wish people could read my mind, and not my fingers. Sometimes they just go, and my mind doesn't always catch their errors. I basically just remembered that electrum is "poor man's atium"
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But you have to remember, In world, people understood that Atium's counterpart was electrum, which wasn't quite correct. Brandon was referring to what people In-world believed the counterpart was, making Atium an oddball. However, I do agree with you that a Mistborn can't burn the other physical essences from other Shards. At least, not without hacking the magics.
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@Archer I must publicly apologize for targeting you. I was acting without orders in a desperate attempt to prove myself. Therefore, I must publicly apologize. How can I make it up to you?
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Welcome! There's a lot to know. Just be careful before you decide to do anything crazy like join a clan, guild, cult or secret agency. Make sure it's exactly what you want to do EDIT: have an upvote
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The Ultimate List of Questions for Brandon
Tineye Navigator replied to Chaos's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I have a few questions that I would love to have answered, and they relate to my (currently) only theory. That is a topic that Brandon RAFO's a lot, but I think it's worth a shot. 1. Atium is powered by ruin, instead of preservation, so is atium allomancy actually end-negative? 2. (Assuming the above is true)Would lerasium spikes be end positive?(probably a RAFO) These next questions are also RAFO, but I put a lot of work into them, so getting even a small answer or hint would be amazing!! 3. Atium can only be burned by a current allomancer, is the reason Lerasium can be burned by anyone because by ingesting Preservation, you have a larger portion of it in you so it becomes easier to snap? 4. If atium allows user to change the future, does Lerasium allow the user to change the past(Similar to forgery, which is also end positive) -
I definitely agree with your second paragraph. I feel like my knowledge of what a lerasium spike would do was actually weakened by my research, but it will definitely be a wildcard. And I don't think it will do nothing either, but that was the only "conclusion" I could come up with. My other idea was that it wouldn't "steal" the power, but duplicate it.
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@CalderisThanks for the feedback. I think I will edit that part of my original post. @Fatikis(your name won't let me tag you) That makes sense, and that's what I originally thought, but more studying of WoB seems to show that the more powerful the mistborn the more trauma might be needed to create the snapping. What about if the permanent forgery forged a traumatic experience into the childhood, prior to being able to remember the event? i.e. as an infant or young toddler?
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*chalkling actually comes to life, and becomes intelligent* *chalkling finds @Archer, and kills him* Much like the monster created by Frankenstein is the reason for Frankensteins death in the end, The Chalkling, whose concept was created by Archer, now gets brutally killed by the chalkling.
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I have been working on a theory about the God Metals. Most Specifically Lerasium, but also Atium. I mean Brandon did say this: So I am going to start with the metal we know most about, which is not the main metal that I want to discuss. First Atium, in Allomancy, then Atium in Hemalurgy Here’s what we know. Atium allows the user to see the future, or at least a shadow of the future. It acts similar to electrum, only that you see other’s future. Also electrum is one of the 16 normal metals, and Atium is a god metal. Being a God metal, it behaves differently than normal metals. This WoB helps explain. Allomancy is fueled by Preservation, but not atium or malatium, and that is because Atium is literally the condensed form of Ruin’s power. So remembering that, let’s go back to what Atium does. Sanderson has stated that it allows you to peer into the Spiritual realm, as done by Elend, in HoA. It allowed him to look to the future, because in the Spiritual realm, “time, locations and possibilities conflate”(quote from Brandon) Atium, or the power of ruin allows you to change the future. That can only be done in the spirit realm, but the effects can be seen in the Physical realm. Now that I’ve discussed Atium Allomancy, It’s time to switch to Hemalurgy. Hemalurgy is already mostly associated with Ruin, because it is an end-negative type of magic. But Atium Hemalurgy is the most effective form of hemalurgy, and can steal any other trait, and do so better. It’s like the wild card. (I think there’s a quote that says that somewhere) And of course Feruchemy. Feruchemy allows Atium to store age. When storing it, you become older, and when tapping it, you become younger. I can’t be certain, but I feel like your age would be part of your spiritual DNA, as it would be part of your ideal self at any given moment. So to recap so far. Atium Allomancy you can see into the Spiritual realm and change the future. Atium Hemalurgy allows you to basically become anything you want, changing your spiritual DNA, and Atium Feruchemy allow you to change your spiritual DNA. Lerasium, as we know has one side effect of making someone become a full mistborn, apparently, without having to snap. It can also rewrite sDNA. So the difference between the God metals and the other 16 metals seem to be that Normal metals, change things in the physical or cognitive realm. They manipulate matter, and thoughts(The exception being gold and electrum. They allow you to see a small portion of the spiritual realm, but can’t manipulate it). God metals, however seem to be able to manipulate the spiritual realm. With that in mind, Here is where my theory really starts to get speculative. Lerasium. We know that there is at least one major difference between Lerasium and Atium in that anyone can burn Lerasium, while only someone who is already a mistborn can burn atium. And hopefully I will get to that. In a few minutes. Lerasium has a different purpose in Allomancy. Pinning it’s purpose is very difficult, because that’s where Sanderson hasn’t revealed anything to us yet. We know a side effect is that you become an allomancer. But it’s purpose is not to make you an allomancer. That just happens. So let’s return to how Allomancy works again. Among the 16 standard metals, there is a push and a pull for each force used. Steel pushes, Iron pulls. Pewter pushes your abilities, tin pulls your senses. Zinc pulls, Brass pushes, etc. So everything seems to have it’s opposite, just like ruin and preservation are opposites. Each metal, when burned against each other seems to cancel out it’s opposite. Based off that, I would assume that the God metals, made from the power and bodies of opposite Gods ought to be opposites to each other. And that is why I discussed Atium so much. We must know what something does in order to determine it’s opposite. My conclusion from atium allomancy is that atium allows the user to change the future. So, The opposite of changing the future, is changing your past. We had the answer in front of us the whole time. Gold and Electrum contained the hidden answer. A hundred questions begin to run through the head now. The first one that came to my mind is if he could change the past, how come we didn’t have some sort of “wrinkle in time” or “time turner” effects, giving way to a repeat of the first book, except where Elend has allomantic powers? Honestly that was confusing for a while, until I realized that Sanderson has already shown us that an object’s past can be rewritten to only affect it in the present. Forgery. As long as the past is sufficiently believable, then the past of the object can be changed, but it only takes effect as soon as the stamp is placed. So why does that happen, both with forgery, and with Lerasium? Because the Cosmere has three realms. Shai gives us the answer, when speaking with Gaotona: The stamp in forgery changes the cognitive view, and the spiritual essence of an object. Just like the bead does when burned. “Well that’s all fine and dandy, but that still doesn’t explain how the anyone is able to burn Lerasium How do you explain that, Tineye?” Good question. Here goes. We have to remember that allomancy isn’t fueled by the metal. That’s just a key, like the aons in aondor. The actual fuel for allomancy is preservation itself. You need to have enough preservation inside of you in order to use allomancy. If I swallow an iron pill, then I will have more iron in my blood. If I swallow a bead of pure preservation, it makes sense that I would have more preservation inside of me. It literally becomes part of me. That also explains why it is additive, and not an overwrite. The more preservation you consume, the more preservation is inside of you. I would argue that with enough preservation, perhaps the amount in a bead, you would be able to bypass the snapping just due to the sheer amount that gets added to your spiritual DNA., or if not bypass it, somehow create an artificial snap. Rewriting a soul seem's like that would be traumatic enough, at least on the spiritual level, if not cognitive or physical. Snapping is just another way to get added preservation and investiture inside you. But it does so by cracking your sDNA, much more painful than just adding on to your sDNA by ingesting preservation. So that explains how someone, who knows what they are doing could have different effects with lerasium as Brandon has said. Lerasium somehow causes a mutation that adds the genetic ability to burn metals to a person’s DNA. Unfortunately, Brandon has said that Lerasium cannot give powers other than Allomancy My purpose in developing this theory was to find out what a lerasium spike would do, or a lerasium metalmind. So I’m not done yet. Even though it’s like the equivalent of 3 pages in microsoft word already. If Atium allomancy is actually powered by ruin, then wouldn’t that mean that lerasium hemalurgy would be powered by preservation? And doesn’t that cause a problem with the nature of hemalurgy, which is end-negative? Maybe. So that means one possible answer is that Lerasium hemalurgy, effectively does nothing. Stabbing someone with Lerasium does nothing but make them bleed. That is even backed up by the idea that they are opposites. Atium can steal everything, better than anything else, so lerasium can’t steal anything But that doesn’t seem right. Brandon wouldn’t do that to us. He’s RAFO’d it too often to have it be a complete dud. So the other Idea I have is that it's some form of perfected hemalurgy, where the spike doesn't actually steal the powers, but copies it, or in other words forges another copy of the spiritweb that contains the allomantic power, allowing for that type of Hemalurgy to be end positive. Looking at Hemalurgy, I have difficulty finding how pushing metals and pulling metals are related or if they are based off another relation. So I am afraid that I wasn’t able to find out anything concrete about hemalurgy yet. I now know less than I thought I new on the subject before I started studying it. (HELP!!)(My mission was a bust) But I will look at Feruchemy real quick before finishing this post. Feruchemy, though not explicitly stated on the coppermind seems to still be split somewhat where opposite metals still have opposite powers. It’s not perfect, but it’s easier to make that argument than it was with hemalurgy, which doesn’t even have a table on the coppermind. So that would mean that it’s somehow related to age. I also want to look at Hoid, who we know had lerasium, and even though Brandon has confirmed that he used allomancy, he hasn’t confirmed explicitely that he burned lerasium in order to do so. So maybe he used lerasium as a metalmind??? I didn’t dedicate a lot of time pondering what a lerasium metalmind might do, but here are some ideas of what I came up with, while looking at some attributes of Wit and Hoid. Maturity(kind of like mental age), Innovation(Stores the ability to create new things) timeliness(stores the ability to be timely) Obviously this theory is far from complete, so I would appreciate any insight that you all have that I may have missed. This theory does need to be revised in order to provide more information about hemalurgy and feruchemy. And as we get more information about metallic arts in future books and revelations, I will modify my theory in order to keep it accurate.
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Finally took the plunge
Tineye Navigator replied to elbereth_gilthoniel's topic in Introduce Yourself!
Welcome to the Shard! Don't get too caught up in dark dealings of secret groups. I Know it can sound fun, but selling your soul for a cookie can have many unwanted effects. Of course, some people enjoy the effects associated with that action. So by all means Do what pleases you. Also, You said what your favorite series was. What is your favorite book within the SA so far? -
Welcome AonEne! I see that you've been here just over one day, and you already have the most "Liked Content" for the day of March 25th. Not only do you worldhop with sugar, but you used a connection metalmind on us so that we all instantly love you. Very clever...
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Yes, that is true. But there is still so much about the cosmere that is not known, so large portions of the set of laws are still just theory. For instance, I am developing a theory as to what happens if you spike someone with a lerasium spike, or use a lerasium metalmind, but due to the lack of information regarding Lerasium, it is still just theory
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HGC: Adventures wanted, Heroes needed
Tineye Navigator replied to Lord Meeker's topic in Social Groups, Clans, & Guilds
Full name: Hethil Erikell Investiture: Allomancy (More specifically, Tineye) I recently acquired an aviar, that provides cognitive disguise Nationality of the cosmere: Scadrian Height: 5' 9" (I slouch just a bit) Age:355 at time of Alloy of Law Hair color: Light Brown Eye color: Blue Heroic history: When visiting shardworlds for trading purposes, I frequently get involved in squabbles, and I help the side that I believe is fighting for the most justice. I act as a spy, and infiltrator, because many know me as a merchant, it is easier to get behind enemy lines Personality: Thoughtful, quiet and a good listener, but not reserved. When I do have something to say, I believe it is very important, and I have put a great deal of thought into it. I am mostly of a happy/serious demeanor, but don't discount that a joke could pop out. What brought your character here? I was recruited by Sahin's team with the promise of being able to save many of my most lucrative trade routes from destruction by this evil that is threatening my homeland and many other planets. -
"Thank you for your help young lad" Rhomin said 15 lashings to the side were able to get the spike through the aluminum-reinforced window, to hit the target. "Now if only I can get to it before the hemalurgic decay sets in too much" Rhomin thanked him again, then walked off, still puzzled about how the boss was able to get a wind runner to be able to use his lashings on Scadrial. That man always has some new trick up his sleeve.
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Formation of the Ire (question- SH+Elantris Spoils)
Tineye Navigator replied to Massik's topic in Cosmere Discussion
This is only somewhat related, but Do we know anything more about if there is another shardpool on Sel. I mean there were both Devotion and Dominion. There is a lot of speculation regarding how their death/splintering affected the magic on Sel. But If I remember right, I saw a WoB saying that Sel is one of the most Cosmere aware planets. When the Shards were splintered, did the power from them get combined, and so the Shardpool near Elantris is the Shardpool for both devotion and Dominion? or is there a second Shardpool somewhere on Sel (Perhaps the third great Domain?) I personally think that there should be a second Shardpool somewhere. Maybe The conditions near the other pool are more safe(albeit still dangerous), and worldhoppers are using that pool in order to enter and exit Sel. I haven't read up a whole lot on Elantris, Sel or the Ire, So my theories might be completely wrong, even based on what we know from WoB, but it seems like a possibility to me. -
Least important character in the cosmere
Tineye Navigator replied to Cosmosis's question in Cosmere Q&A
Are we talking about Shallan's stick? Wasn't that stick integral in re-crushing her confidence in her ability to soulcast, after soulcasting an entire ship? I would say it is a very important character, because she still doesnt feel confident in her soulcasting abilities, and we are nearly two books after that event! -
"Rust and ruin!" Rhomin swore! "That didn't work! I'll need to head back and see what I'm supposed to do now!"
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"Interesting..." Rhomin whispered to himself. "The bendalloy misting I sent in made the cookies no longer fresh, but Archer still bought them. What caused him to do that? Soother maybe?
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"Ahhh... Finally. The man I have been searching for." Rhomin muses to himself while hiding in an alcove across the street.
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Or just the word "Shard" Seem's like an apt replacement for a current curse. (i.e. "Oh Shards," "I Just Sharded," "Holy Shards!!")
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My universe's magic contains a form of investiture(different name, and slightly different origin) , however, it will be infinite, and attempting to shatter it won't work, because infinity divided by any number can still be infinity. So Shattering, or breaking the origin of the magic will only cause 2 origins that are equally as powerful, and will cause supernova-like disruptions causing everything to essentially be eliminated. Imagine splitting an atom, causing that explosion, and coming out with 2 atoms, both equally as massive as the first. Don't worry, I also have a physics system that will allow such possibilities. And I didn't really get the idea from Sanderson's works, more like Sanderson's investiture provided a catalyst through which to answer questions about how my magic system will be able to be used. It is still very much in development, and I have many other issues that I need to work out. Edit: Mine is different, in that in order to use or access magic, there are no realms. It will be very physical. In a way, it would be kind of like finding and partaking of a shard pool, but still different.
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On the Waxing and Waning of Cultures
Tineye Navigator replied to Silverblade5's topic in Creator's Corner
Great Essay. I've been taught that the most effective way to provide feedback is to ask ambiguous questions that a reader might have. 1. For the purposes that you have in mind, did you define culture at the appropriate spot in the essay? should it have been done sooner? later? 2. I don't know if you have any upper or lower page limits, but do you feel that you properly explained why cultures waxed and waned? 3. Why didn't you include a reference to Waxillium Ladrian and Wayne? 4. I assume from the essay that you are Christian. Do you think it might strengthen the argument you are trying to convey if you mention other religions, and the influence they have had on their cultures as well? 5. Do you feel like the essay ended with a strong conclusion? I personally don't feel like it ended with a strong conclusion that tied the whole essay together. 6. I loved the examples you used, especially about the Nazi's. Is there any way you can see to make that example more powerful? I didn't see anything, but I think that because it is such a good example, making it better, will make the whole essay even more powerful. Remember, more powerful doesn't necessarily mean longer, or more terse. It also doesn't necessarily mean more personable or relatable. It depends on the tone YOU want. 7. On page four, the sentence "They then created the Gestapo, who were responsible for secretly finding anyone who questioned Nazi ideology and reporting them to their masters, who would then order them deported as well." confused me. Maybe you could try re-wording it? 8. Like I said, overall great essay! It seems like you have great potential in the writing field. Keep being awesome! -
Great! Sounds awesome! I'd love to read an extract of some of it at some point. I have a developing story/world as well. Once I have something concrete with regards to the magic system, I'll make a post and ask for your feedback as well.
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I think if you develop this magic system in an advanced society, you are going to have to have a lot of world notes that you can refer to, explaining the history of the magic, and the world, how they influenced each other. Maybe I'm thinking too technically, or earthy, but have you considered the effects of industry smoke? Plastics, smog, vehicular pollution? Do these weaken or strengthen the smoke, cause corrupt types of magic? Like others have said, make sure the magic has a purpose. Why do you need magic in your world? EDIT: You mentioned ideas about the casters glass. Perhaps a glassblowing process that involves heating the glass with a certain type of wood, to use the smoke from that type of wood in the actual glassblowing. This would make Caster's glass more common, unless you used some type of rare, or protected wood. What would the benefits/disadvantages be in your story of having caster's glass be common? what about if it was rare?
