Aon Tia

Cool.. will visit it and offer my comments..

True.. totally, start your own thread.. it is worth having it there. Otherwise your analysis will get lost in the comments that will come on this post.

yes it is canon.. lightweavers are supposed to have red eyes only shallan is already light eyed so her eyes did not change but ishnah and vathah they will But Not everything that is red has to be co-opted

Genocide of the Krell

I thought the question was about having infinite supply of storm light by this method.. which I doubted bcoz that will be too OP instead I am saying if the ability of using investiture is stored instead of investiture itself, then infinite stormlight will not happen..

Good point @Honorless Yup so in this scenario may be you become a squire to a radiant order.. As in instead of the actual bond, you have acquired the interest of a spren, which then you will have to progress using oaths, which is totally up to your capability.

Huffs.. only a mere spren like you might think turning into an elderling to a bane.. your limited existence can not grasp the beauty that will be bestowed upon me by the beautiful wondrous glorious beings such as my queen dragon.. neverthless, in your ignorance you have granted me what I most desire! I shall grant you your boom but you have also wroth my queen, for that you shall get what befits your stupidity hahaha granted you are now the sole human who can summon the warren of magic of chaos, but at the first summoning you shall enter it and wonder in it for all eternity losing your mental coherence unable to ever find the exit.. you shall weep and ask yourself why did you ever wanted such an existence in the first place.. I wish for a pet dinosaur who will also protect me from others of his kind and shall be forever loyal to me..

Gives me an idea callsign: Ruin

The only qualification required is that you have to be a murderer..

Thank you @Nnatel I agree that odium would not want to leave investiture but he might have left some because ambition was not dead yet..

I used to believe that for NW untill the possibility of Rlain was introduced to me on the shard..

I have only one question.. Do you store investiture or the ability to access that investiture? If it is later, then with regard to a radiant, will you store stormlight or your nahel bond? so if it happens in an unkeyed storage too, then can your nahel bond itself be transferred to the person who taps into it?

@Honorless agreed on that H and Especially cultivation may not care about humans or even singers well being or even survival. I do buy odiums arguments on this. But I think they do intend to see odium lose. For that she is willing to take many risks.. Hmm.. certainly not calculating but nudging in her desired direction at certain crucial moments.. it paid of with dalinar but will it pay off every time? Certainly not.. I am saying they have a plan but I whether that plan will succeed in the way they desire? Doubtful..

I believe the idea that it is a long con of honor and cultivation on odium. Deliberately fighting in a manner that it looks like you are losing is a good strategy too.. honors death has made odium over confident. Cultivation already led odium to believe that he won with dalinar until the last moment pulling the rug off him.. In the end I think H and C will win because their vessels are willing to die in order to cause odiums defeat.. H let himself be killed, he even planned for a successor vessel and C might be doing something similar with NW training

Yes but how many times it filled and how many people took that power before TLR happened? He alone managed immortality.. where did you learn of arelon history? Wobs?

Good analysis all that. I agree with this also. The only thing I want to ask here is that was tlr first to get to the well of ascension..? Or were there others before him? how many times have people held the power of preservation ? It is possible that there were others but they did not survive because no one had the deadly combo of Feruchemy and Allomancy like tlr.. And how many millennia passed before ruin needed to be trapped.. if there were more, then scadrial is also much older than we think.. But still yes it is possible that D&D has kicked the bucket well before any of this happened... How old are the ire then?

It happened third time too

@Honorless valid point but we shall see Also I want to know how long it took him to take out D&D and A.. was it really as long drawn as Roshar..? I doubt that but this wob suggests it took him much longer than I originally anticipated..

I agree on this much... but “connected to Roshar” is the exact reason why I see Rlain bonding to NW.. And his gentle nature might temper her too..

So, he probably had a temporary system of Investiture on Sel, Threnody, Ashyn and now Roshar. The Unmade might not even be from Roshar. Hmm Sel and threnody just got more interesting.. I wonder how much of his investiture is still left on these planets.. It seems totally weird now that how much similarities there are between the shades of threnody and fused. May be the shades were an experiment gone wrong which was repeated on Roshar with slightly better results..

Thank you @Lunu’anaki @Karger may be the Rosharans want to conduct a comparative study between these aviars and their weird inverstiture consuming birds..

Ten is too much @Halyo_Alex I have argued before that there can be 5, seeing as other 5 are closer to cultivation..

Agreed..

@PrinceGenocide so your argument is that Marasi might also have some terris blood? Well I guess it is hard to argue on that..

Totally. I think that singers/ listeners might be closer to cultivation in the way they acquire forms and cultivate changes.. so I like the idea of one of them bonding NW.. I know.. I am torn about Navani too. I want it but I also get why people might object. Plus she is too obvious a candidate and Brandon loves throwing a left punch at us from nowhere.. so you may get your wish!