Charcoal Hyena

Completely fair read, though ultimately wrong from my point of view, I had a small mindmeld with Pearl at the very start that I read as village, only to see other people finding reasons for voting him, which gave me cause to step back and think "Okay, maybe there's a good reason for me to think on this player further." That and I find player alignment is most telling when they're at risk of dying; meaning that Pearl's posts while under threat would tell me more about them than any opening post mindmeld. Does that make sense to anyone but me? xD Ah, I see the confusion now (on my part, and the subsequent confusion you've experienced). I shall post the quote from a Mauve post that mislead me below. As for the pronouns bit, I'm actually not sure when that happened, if it did at all, though I wouldn't be surprised. I've had to replace a ton of "he/hims" with "they/thems" while I've been writing posts because for whatever reason, male pronouns are my subconscious default online when an account doesn't have a non-male PFP. I accidentally read that first line as "I have retracted it on account of it actually being the third," which then lead to me reading the last line "I urge them to cast a vote for someone else" as trying to get more votes off Pearl. That's why I thought it was odd and a possible E/E reaction As for the rest of Amethyst's post, a lot of it feels very logical to me, or at least uses logic I'm fond of. This bit in particular I heavily read as a villager trying to solve the game: Overall, much happier with this slot now that they've interacted with the thread more. I've gone ahead and caught up, but will need to go through with a finer tooth comb after I get some food and medicine in me. The EoD in particular seems ripe with juicy info so I'm looking forward to it edit: missed a reply! I wouldn't call it a need, but Chartreuse's initial vote on me was explicitly for making a reads list, rather than the content of my reads list it felt apt to point out that the reads list itself was NAI since I began doing it before logging off my real account. On principle, I'd rather be judged by the words I say over how I structure them, since 9 times out of 10, the structure of my posts are based on my personal preference and brain organization In case anyone is confused, about 90% of that post's content was after knowing my alignment too, and the 10% I left from before had no reason to be changed. I just forgot to switch to the anon account before digging into the thread, but fortunately, I realized it relatively quickly. It wasn't me preemptively preparing to be an eliminator as Amber Vulture assumed in their megapost; I'm sometimes just a bit dumb and too eager for my own good

Sorry for not being online yesterday everyone my housemate and I woke up with some pretty bad symptons, so we had to get tested for corona and have been resting since. I ended up sleeping much longer than I intended, though I'm feeling well enough to sit at the computer for now. I missed a ton and I'm a slow/deliberate reader, so it'll probably take me a while to catch up, but I will try to respond to everyone who addressed me since my departure, as well as figure out what the heck happened with the execution (I guess that's what it's being called nowadays).

This may be my favorite reads list format I've ever seen. Bravo my friend. Okay, think I've caught up. I'd still like to go back and comb the Pearl vote nexus, but it's actually very late for me and I should hit the bed I'll update the vote count, however. (3) Pearl Chameleon: Scarlet Octopus, Mauve Crocodile, Salmon Meerkat (1) Charcoal Hyena: Chartreuse Penguin, (1) Amethyst Scorpion: Charcoal Hyena, (1) Torquoise Gorilla: Violet Axlotlt, (1) Scarlet Octopus: Amber Vulture, (1) Melon Dingo: Coral Swan, (1) Coral Swan: Oxblood Beagle, (1) Violet Axlotl: Onyx Flamingo, (1) Mauve Crocodile: Fuchsia Ostrich, I'm sorry to leave my vote where it is, but first thing in the morning I intend to figure out where I stand on Pearl and his voters, as well as the others I have in yellow who are voting elsewhere. G'day/g'night everyone!

And it begins! Thank you for the quick response to my question. I hadn't been there for the edits, so didn't realize how big a gap there was between you laying your vote down and you adjusting the post. Makes sense, and agreed that an @ would have helped. I can't say anything for other elims using early reads list, but what I can say is that I began writing the post before even logging in and learning my alignment. For me, it's easiest to compartmentalize players into colors (green meaning I don't want to lynch them today, yellow meaning I want to interact with this person more and figure them out better before I decide, and red meaning people I find suspicious and want to put on the defensive). I mostly solve games via Process of Elimination, and generally am better at finding villagers for being villagery over elims being elimmy. By narrowing the pool down, I'm usually able to focus my efforts and pinpoint the most likely suspect. Furthermore, I wanted my post to serve as a kind of "ice-breaker" for the other active players by giving them all something they could respond to. I haven't played a game in a very long time, but this strategy is one I used often. I figured it'd be especially useful since I have no (known) past rapport to banter about while probing others with questions. As for switching reads bit, that's actually a good thing! Generally, if you have a reads list from a villager every day with thought processes attached, you'll see a very consistent and gradual progression. Meanwhile, eliminators switching reads with poor or forced reasoning becomes obvious, allowing us to root them out later if it weren't so much work, I would encourage all villagers to keep a similar record public. re:edit: When I was trying to @ Plum Rhino, the tags had stopped working. I tried a few things like completely deleting the line with his name and trying with a fresh line, but that didn't work. I ended up having to copy/paste the whole post and refresh the page. When I went to @ Plum, his name had been removed and the bold had be cleared. I didn't even notice until you pointed it out. Hey Saffron! I'm loving your puns. I'll take that feedback to heart in the future! My initial read of Pearl was village for that exact reason, Coral. However, when I saw them get put on defense by accumulating votes, I realized that entire interaction would need to be examined more thoroughly. Hence yellow, meaning "I gotta feel this person out." I'm sorry the way I constructed my post is offputting it was mostly for my benefit, although I did try to maximize the discussion generation within the little amount of time I had. As for the one red name, Amethyst was really just a yellow that I wanted to put on the defensive. I know they responded, so I'm looking forward to seeing their response. Other than that, I can't say I have a single good lead on an elim so far. Hm. That definitely wasn't the impression I got. Though it was gut based, you asked Pearl four solid questions. I would consider that thorough compared to most other D1 votes On the note of reads, don't feel pressured to make a list or anything. I was just looking for even one or two opinions on anyone else. Surely something must have stood out by now. I raised it as a possibility, but the possibility alone doesn't guarantee either of you are an elim. I suppose my reads list would have made a lot more sense if I had explained my zones in a legend, rather than clarifying in this post xD I believe that covers most of the direct replies. I will have to go over all the page 3.5-4 posts now, so expect another reply soon edit: Almost missed this. Wasn't exactly the response I expected. While I don't exactly understand what you mean in the last line, I appreciate you giving thoughts on a few players. Regarding my village read of Magenta, it wasn't only because he seemed like a new player. It was because his questions most likely came from a young villager mindset.

"Heartfeel" Reads (minimal logic, emotion-based instinct reactions - subject to change as new posts roll in - list order does not matter) Coral Swan: Coral's opening posts felt pure to me, and I agree with everything they've said. Will reevaluate later, but I'm removing them from my D1 pool of suspects. Saffron Iguana: Like Pearl and Coral, I don't believe past AG distros will have an impact on this game (or if they do, we'd never be able to predict without info from deaths). Casting their opening post aside, their lighthearted tone is disarming, and their question to Pearl about Seekers being strong for elims feels like genuine solving / seeking. Magenta Albatross: I'm getting relatively new player vibes, and their questions don't seem to be forced (like a spiked might do in thread for credit). Leaning village. Scarlet Octopus: Font choice makes their content more difficult to parse than I'd like, but I like how thorough their initial vote was. Their subsequent tunneling of Pearl is both offputting and reassuring. Leaning village for now, though I'd like your opinions on more players @Scarlet Octopus. Salmon Meerkat: Oh boy, I both love and hate Salmon already (no offense on the hate :P). Your posts are like chaos incarnate; fortunately, I found your post with the Sunburst vote to be Chaotic Good rather than Chaotic Evil. Leaning village for now, though I expect your chosen playstyle will cause me difficulty in the future Chartreuse Penguin: I would like to see more than a vote count and a vote on an inactive. @Chartreuse Penguin why Violet? More importantly, why not anyone that's posted? Emerald Falcon: "brain no worky" @Emerald Falcon is it working now? Any thoughts? Fuchsia Ostrich: Although their first post was tiny (RP nonwithstanding), their nonchalance toward number of spiked is comforting somehow. Very light village read. Mauve Crocodile: For the most part, my read of Mauve was pure neutral. I'm not sure how I feel about the retraction off Pearl and subsequent encouragement for people to vote elsewhere. Possible E/E? Melon Dingo: one post, one analyzable paragraph, and its RP semantics @Melon Dingo do you have any opinions on the players so far? Oxblood Beagle: Only responded to Emerald's "brain no worky" with "mood." PLZ GIB MOAR @Oxblood Beagle Pearl Chameleon: If I had to vote at the same point as Pearl, I'd probably have done the same as them for the same reason. I have more thoughts on their posts since being put on the defensive, but I'll need to do a proper analysis isolation of the people involved before I take one stance or another. Turquoise Gorilla: Amusing RP, albeit NAI. Need more (or longer posts) to establish a baseline feel. @Turquoise Gorilla Amethyst Scorpion: Hm, this might be the player with my least favorite opening post. Not a fan of the firm language (I.E. "so the elim team will be weaker.") Possible slip? I'm limited on time at the moment, so I'll be cutting this post here. Some of the placements above are kinda up in the air after reading page 2, although I'll need a good hour to sit down and process everything before I figure out where they land. At the very least, here are my first impressions! Keep the posts coming please <3 The following players have not posted. @Amber Vulture @Azure Mouse @Ivory Dragonfly @Mint Heron @Onyx Flamingo @Opal Lion @Plum Rhinoceros @Quartz Zebra @Sapphire Elephant @Sunburst Toucan @Violet Axolotl Pearl Chameleon(3): Scarlet Octopus, Salmon Meerkat, Mauve Crocodile Violet Axolotl(1): Chartreuse Penguin Amethyst Scorpion(1): Charcoal Hyena

Do you have anyone that you would trust enough to PM this in case you do die then the information isn't lost to the village?

I have less than 4 minutes before I'm heading back to work but Holy Hannah that was a ridiculous end of cycle. I think that we have a decent chance of the NK being the Mavset-im kill tonight just due to the chaos of voting today. They could have been willing to throw a vote on to protect Beagle at the last second because they can slip away, so we should keep that in mind and make many PMs tonight. Gotta be heading out, though.

Ah, Thank you, to both of you. Well, I need to be leaving and I might be back for all of 5 minutes before rollover, but I might not. Hard to tell, so I figure it's best to get a vote out before I leave. Beagle for now. I don't have the strongest elim read on them, but I really don't have the strongest elim read on anyone at the moment, and it seems to be the best option to me, both to keep myself alive and to go after a potential elim. I'm guessing that I won't be back, though. So I won't be able to react to anything in the thread until the Night.

As of right now they still haven't seen the message, so it's not that they are refusing, just that they are lazy/not quite active, I guess. They have sent me one message, though, so I know they aren't Mavset-im @Plum Rhinoceros could you still explain what a Confbias is? I'm still confused on that. Also, is your list of elim team in order of how likely you think they are to be elims, so Me highest likelyhood with Falcon as the lowest, or a random/some other order?

I sent them a message asking them if they would, but I will not be revealing who they are without their permission at this time. I'm really not a big fan of most of the lynch candidates so far. Tuatara doesn't read as overly suspicious to me, I obviously would like to not be lynched, and a brief skim of everyone else seems to be fairly inconclusive. I'm just about out of time for now, but I should be back before the cycle ends. I will find someone to vote on before the end of the cycle, I just don't know who yet. Current thoughts: Tuatara: Posts don't come off as an elim. Definitely possible, but I read much more as a villager with a different playstyle that me, Mouse: Part of me is wondering if the play asking for an elim gemstone was a distraction for an elim who was already part of the elim team, and was mainly looking to throw people off their trail. I don't think that is likely but part of me wants it to have happened just for the sheer audacity. Hyena: I don't want to die, but I'm willing to go down if that's what it takes for the village. Come end of the cycle if I have to chose between tying the lynch and being lynched then I will let myself be lynched. Lion: Even though you're trying to kill me, you're cool. I think that you have great analysis and are a huge benefit to the village. I'm honestly kind of surprised that you haven't been killed yet by the elims. Rhino: If you are an elim as of right now then I give up If that was a WGG then I don't know what to do, but I have a slight village read on you with a strong village read on you due to the attack last night. I'd be surprised if you're attacked again at this point just for the thread of the lurking WGG for the rest of the village.

Lots to read through, sorry I've been a bit out. I got signed out of the Shard and couldn't find where the password to the anon account was due to just being out and about. I'm back now. May I ask why you're putting this vote on? I understand there's been some reasons posted throughout the thread recently for me being an elim, and I believe you posted something earlier... one moment. Confbias? Sorry, unfamiliar with that term. I really disliked Penguin's style D1 and it just seemed off to me, but as we went through N1 and later it started to feel a lot more like a playstyle rather than an elim attempting to avoid scrutiny. I'm a bit proponent of PMs, I've one games with them before, and I think that they also significantly help us in this game, specifically with Mavset-Im being able to body-snatch. If you keep it quiet who you are PM mates with then it functions as another way to reveal who they are without them knowing - like with the Warform extra life - and I just think that it is generally better that we have the PMs and start using them earlier than later. On the subject of mateform, what does it mean that you "can not vote for the person you are in a PM with"? Like if I was in a PM with Rhino and then tossed a vote on them would our PM close, or would my vote just not be counted? What happens if I switch out of Mateform, am I still limited? @Steeldancer I did not make a PM last night, I was putting on a form. D1 I went for Scholarform, D2 I was inactive and then D3 I finally was able to get a gemstone, so I was putting on the form last night. That may make me read more elim as I don't have an alibi, but that's just how life is. Vote Count as it stands should be Tuatara (3): Mouse, Falcon, Beagle Hyena (3): Lion, Flamingo, Rhino* Falcon (1): Heron Rhino (1): Vulture Vulture (1): Scorpion * @Plum Rhinoceros You never retracted your vote on Falcon, and I don't remember specifically how voting works, but to make sure that clears properly you might want to do that. I could be misremembering the rules, and too lazy to look them up - but I thought I'd point it out. So I'll quickly go read over Tuatara and see if they are giving an elim read. If anyone has any questions that I can answer to prove my village-ness then please let me know. I have a bit of time while I'll be reading over Tuatara's posts before I need to get going.

I was not recipient of a PM N2 My gut reaction to the Penguin Lynch is that it required little to no manip from the Elims. Penguin was on a lot of our radars from the beginning so elims may have jumped on the ship but probably didn't need to set it up. Not certain how much info we'll really be able to pull from the lynch because of that, but I'd imagine that looking at the reasons listed for voting will be the most useful.

The reason I voted for Penguin day 1 was due to the tone of their posts. They were very indecisive. And it just had a weird tone to it that made them a possible Elim, to me at least. That said their tone really hasn't changed at all, and I'm thinking that it is more likely than not just the style of play of that player, which is fine. Since Day 1 they haven't said much, besides a few filler posts agreeing with people, proposing a joke idea, or saying that they had no ideas. To me it could be read as an Elim trying to keep a low profile while still being "active" but my gut is telling me it's not.

That's a fair point. We could possibly counteract that be just always throwing Dragonfly into PM groups and just making sure they are always responding. So long as we have people that we trust put in those (so Dragonfly and whoever else we decide to soft clear as friendly) then we can keep people soft cleared.

What is this me too referencing? I will agree that the attack on Dragonfly mostly clears them. I feel like it would have been silly to waste a kill confirming someone who was already being strongly village read.

Sorry! I was sick and slightly overworked. I could have said something but it would have just been me stating that with nothing to add as far as analysis goes. I should have more time now. I'll be reading the past threads and hopefully providing some analysis of what I feel is going on. Sorry everyone!

Do we want to do anything about this? We'll be able to see how many gemstones were taken next round, and see that, but does it provide more use to the village to claim if you did not get a gemstone, or more use to the elims? My gut instinct is to claim if you went for a gemstone and did not get one, specifically Scholarform and Warform this time around. If we have ~2 people who did not get each than we can be reasonably certain that it did not fall into eliminator hands. (Eliminators could be each other up and claim that they went for something and did not get it if one of them did get it, but there is always the chance that there are gemstones left over of that type, and would be outing themselves come day) If we're going to do that then we should do it now, as those who went after gemstones and did not receive them will have the most information at the moment. As soon as the numbers of gemstones remaining is revealed it will allow the eliminators to scheme and plan a bit more. Does that make sense? I'm uncertain if I explained my reasoning well enough. But, I think it could be useful to have 2 people claim if they went after each type of gemstone and failed to get it. It doesn't reveal who did get gemstones, and it helps us plan around the Elim's abilities. We would need to have a decent portion of people agree on this plan of action before we start following it though.

What about the wording stood out to you? You seem to be intentionally trying not to elaborate.

I'm getting a fairly weird vibe from all 3 of your posts, Penguin. You seem pretty indecisive in all of them, which could read as an Elim trying to not stand out in any specific way, or just a villager not wanting to commit to any path just yet. But my gut is leaning towards you being an Elim, so I'll be tossing my vote on you for now. Out of the other vote candidates, I see no good reason for lynching Weasel as of yet, and I don't have solid read on Swan or Albatross as of yet. Later today I should have time to dig through their posts and see what's up. Cream Tuatara is also reading fairly suspicious to me, mainly due to the request that Warform reveal their role to everyone, as that feels far more like a mafia than a town. For now I'll keep the vote on Penguin, mainly to hopefully inspire discussion/keep us from tunneling on any one person.

Wouldn't this require revealing what form we went for, reveal who has powers and who doesn't, and require us all to actually agree on something?

One of the ones on this account was And I have to say, I'm quite impressed. Talking strategy, I think we should try to have as many of us as possible take the Scholarform and the Mateform. Mateform will give us all messages that we can use throughout the game which will benefit us and Scholarform will give us more options in the late game. I believe that we will want to try and get that done before we need to so that we aren't racing the clock in the future.

It's a shame we ended one person short of the twenty that SD wanted.

Soren raises a hand. "I'd like some calamari," He says as he stands, "To share- That's not squid." He ponders for a moment, Then continues. "I'd still "Like some, if you please, "Oh Voice of God that kills." "And Lion, I know nothing. "Please stop shouting. "It hurts my ears, "And makes it hard to hear."

Soren walked away from the mob, Tossing papers to the wind. He had finished all his business, And now he languished in a state akin To purgatory. There was nothing for him here, Merely idle scraps of conversation And attempts to crack the case That did not need his participation To succeed. It seemed his goals were too small For no one wanted his, Demise or cared about his voting. What a pitiful goal it is, To not die. The gemstone that this had been Had long since lost its lustre, And despite the shenanigans, It took all the energy he could muster To vote. As you may have realised from my poetry I've genuinely lost interest in this game, Which is mostly my own fault, you see. I haven't been engaging at all. I'll try to focus a little more, perhaps. I do quite like being the poet. And the Mouse infodumps make me happy. I should probably show it. To the Mouse: Thank you, clever Murinae You simply brighten up my day.

I shall vote on the Octopus and be a sheep Until the the time comes for us all to sleep. I've been done for some time, So I'll sit back and sip wine While the others perish and weep. Fair fortune my friends Until the bitter end. Keteks are lovely, words fit patterns, poets make poetry patterns, fitting words, lovely architects.