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No. Everyone should start with Mistborn!

YES! SAO ruined itself. In every possible way. And we're getting those exact things that we expected from SAO in Log Horizon. Haven't read FMA but Brotherhood is one of my favorites. ToG... At first it was awesome, then it started declining a bit, then it was awesome again, then second season started and it was awesome too but now its getting a bit boring and there are too many characters right now to keep track... But it's totally best Web-toon out there. It's not just about second arc. It had a premise of mmorpg survival and it had zero of that. Anyone who has ever played MMORPG can see that SAO has none of it and after first 1-2 episode it stopped even trying to look like survival game. Second arc? after 3 episodes we go into some lame romantic journey with harem elements. Its watchable, and for me vrmmorpg premise was enough but otherwise it's simply bad in everything it does. I don't know much about second season but I doubt it will be better than "first arc that could be". BTW Gamer is also good. Its Web-toon about superhuman abilities in real world, except main character's ability is called Gamer and he has to level up and do quest to raise his stats and get skills/spells. It's good because looks like author understand how rpgames work and does it well. DICE - Cube That Changes Everything is also another rpg-like Web-toon except it has more of a "evil god having fun with puny mortals" kind of stuff going on and started to decline several chapters ago...

Have to agree with Natans. When I read first book it was one of the best and second one was even better(at least for me) but third book wasn't that good. I love romance in books but second one was too much of a who will "end up" with who and I don't have problems with sex but I hope we'll get less of that. Third book was about Inevera so it at least can be explained but if next book keeps it up I won't be keeping this series in my favorites. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's bad or something, simply those aren't the things that make this series awesome for me and I really hope we'll get more epic stuff and less sex and romance in next books.

Yeah, as a whole most of One Piece arcs aren't that good compared to HxH but there's something awesome in every single one of them and you can feel that author has thought his stuff out before putting it on paper. Story, setting, characters, etc, he's not thinking up these stuff as he goes and keeping this epic going after 700 chapters, that's something I've never seen/read before in anime/manga. HxH on the other hand is a lot more unique compared to other shounens almost in everything and seriously I think it should be Seinen.

It is. Even though HxH and One Piece started almost at the same time OP is twice as long and it still keeps getting better and better with every arc. HxH is one of the best out there and IMO no other long running shounen got anything on it except OP. It might come down to tastes in the end but if you're into shounen stuff then One Piece is a must. It's a bit hard to get into now, because it has a bit "weird" art(which you'll love if you watch/read at least half of it) and first episodes/chapters are really old so you shouldn't except them to have hd quality. And yeah, Luffy got classic shounen hero personality but at least he does it better than others(He gets a lot of character development later). How far did you get on your first try? I'm something of a special case because I was hooked up from first episode even though it's mostly agreed upon that it has slow start. Mostly people get hooked up after Sanji is introduced and Zoro has to fight someone special early on and then Arlong Arc happens. Oh and do not ever watch 4kids version

Main long running still ongoing shounens: One Piece > Hunter x Hunter > Fairy Tail > Naruto > Bleach. At least for me. I stopped watching/reading Naruto and Bleach 2 or 3 years ago. And sadly Fairy Tail's anime was doing better than Manga is doing right now. OP and HxH are only ones I keep watching/reading every week. My favorite animes: Samurai Champloo, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. And fav mangas: BERSERK, Holyland, Veritas, Vagabond, Sun-ken Rock, Guntz, One Piece, Tower of God. btw Log Horizon is so much better than SAO, at least from gamer perspective )

Point isn't whether you can draw investiture from mists or not. It is possible to fuel one magic system with another source of investiture. Allomancer could use Breath/Stormlight/etc or some product of those we don't know yet, but if he knew how to do it, he wouldn't need to take metal with him. Same applies to KR. They could fuel their abilities without Stormlight if they knew how to. Point is that they CAN draw investiture on any planet and they don't need to walk around with all those shiny spheres. Fact that we don't know HOW would they do it and whether they would draw investiture from mists or metal or something entirely else doesn't affects "balance" of Cosmere. On the other hand beautiful shining gems that can't be found anywhere on Nalthis could buy thousands of Breaths

I don't remember where I've read it but I believe Brandon stated that only Scadrian metal can be burned by Allomancers. Kaladin would have to take with him spheres and Allomancers would have to drag metals with them. Its fair enough imo. On the other hand Kaladin 'could' fuel his abilities without using Stormlight same way Allomancers could fuel their abilities without metals. The way investiture works on Scadrial is a bit more complicated than on Roshar but what about mists? Is it impossible to assume that non-allomancers could draw investiture straight from Mists? And yes, Atium is overpowered, as is Nightblood and Shardblades/plates.

Most likely you can't have army of Mistings worldhopping and even if you could Allomancy(as in misting) is still the weakest.

Gotta agree with Kanda/Koloss thing... Shards too in a way lose their physical form and go into Cognitive/Spiritual Realm, which I recon both are immortal anyway. But still their bodies stay alive because they're holding this great amount of investiture which also is "power of creation". About Elantrians... I'm pretty sure they used pool to DIE, because otherwise they lived a lot longer than average humans(they got tired from living), for some reason I remember something about 300+ years. Not to mention that Galladon is still alive in WoK, how much time passed since Elantris? 700 years?

Awakening if I could get 100,000 Breaths as bonus. Immortality and I could see/hear/etc better and clearer(which would be awesome for me because I had -3 when I checked last time and its down to -5 now I think and I've got tone deafness or something like that as well but I love music and I would love to be space-pirate-bard sometimes). + Awakening modern technology. Did I mention immortality?

Yeah... very sad person

We haven't seen normal Elantrian's skulls being crushed in have we?

TLR was a sad person in a way... Dude lived 1000 years, had god-level knowledge and whole empire but he chose to keep it in stone age. He could at least try to worldhop. Now that I think about it... What if he did worldhop?

That's cool ) OK, I'm buying Stormlight making people immortal but still hope it's not About Elantrians, they're obviously immortal. Elantrians-gone-bad are immortal too, they stayed alive no matter what, their pain simply made them die cognitively or something like that I think but they still stayed alive. Didn't main characters drag "dying" Elantrians to pool so they could rest in peace?

Actually Breaths do run out. If awakened object dies before Breath is returned it disappears. Nightblood(and many other possible stuff that could be done with breath) burns it. Less living Nalthians = less breath, no living Nalthians no breath. If someone with Breath dies, its lost forever. I'm not sure about this one but I remember something among the lines of "Children of Drabs are born without Breaths."

That would make it a bit more annoying for them but amount of investiture stays same(or keeps rising bit by bit but still), single inhale should never equal to 2000 Breath's imo. It might delay aging a bit but not to the point of perfect agelessness. + If this was the case than KR would never change, except if killed which is less likely at non-desolation times and if even a single KR was able to stay alive for that amount of time then people would never forget how dangerous Desolation is. Which they did even before Heralds abandoned them. I'm not sure about all the stuff I'm saying here but I really hope Stormlight isn't the reason why Heralds were/are ageless. That would make KR ageless as well and that would make Heralds less special and less epic imo. I always took Elantrian Pool, where they went to die, existed simply because Elantrians couldn't die of age or diseases. Mundane suicides would make them less "holy". They might not be immortal as in forever but Galladon is still alive in WoK.

Someone like Taravangian could easily research Hemalurgy, if he had a reason to suspect something like that. He must be working on it, because Parshendikoloss.

Perfect agelessness = 2000 Breaths. Can't buy that a single inhale of Stormlight can ever be equivalent of that. Seems too unfair imo... Does anyone know exactly how much Breath's were used to create Nightblood? Can Shardblade be bound to Lifeless?

Yeah, but its less likely now... Although I started to doubt this theory because I don't know which ones better: Demoux overpowering whole Roshar by using Atium or him being able to use every Allomantic ability Seriously though, I think this would've been really nice twist to Allomancy, which imo is weakest so far. Some of those abilities are smart and can be devastating if used correctly but there's only so much you can do with them, Mistborns on other hand can do a lot more by combining those abilities. Not to mention that for most of those abilities it's a must to be supplemented with another one(tin/pewter, steel/iron, etc...) This way it would stay under control on Scadrial but would be able to compete with other Magic Systems in Cosmere.

Sounds right... Allomancer's don't hold any investiture, they use it up almost instantly and there's only so much they can channel. While Breath can be held for as long as you want. Elantrianiness is same but you can't spend it. I doubt it would work with Stormlight though. We don't know how long it can be kept inside and there's a limit to how much of it can be held at same time. IMO it's limit should be far lower than fifth heightening.

Looks like that

It would only work on several sharworlds and it wouldn't be as imbalanced as you think. First off using allomancy without burning metals would've been very difficult as BS stated. + Investiture currencies would make it work without overpowering one or another magic system.

Yeah, that's the way I thought, but there are no proofs either way. Although it would've been a lot more clever way of doing it imo. You can't because you can't sounds too shallow for me

So this is my first theory topic here. I'm not good at explaining stuff and my theorycrafting skills are newbie level but I'll try. These are facts everyone knows: Allomancy in SDNA lets Scadrian snap Snapping lets Allomancer burn metal/s Metal grants Allomancer access to Preservation's investiture Preservation's investiture allows Allomancer to use different abilities depending on burned metal. Accessed investiture is same for every metal/ability/allomancer right? It all comes from Preservation/Adonalsium's shard. Then why can't Mistborn(who can use every single allomantic ability) burn metal A to use ability B? Investiture Allomancer gets by burning metal A is different from investiture he gets by burning metal B. There's only one reason why investiture accessed by metal A could be different from investiture accessed by metal B: Metal acts as a filter. After Allomancer burns metal A he's not getting pure/full investiture, he gets only part of it that can be used only in that particular way. At this point it's possible to say that Mistings can use only one allomantical ability because they can't fuel other ones. If Misting A could get Investiture B he could use Ability B. Now that we know this(thanks to Demandred): We can say that Allomancer could get investiture without burning metals. Investiture that didn't filter through metals, investiture that can fuel any Allomantic ability. I believe using Stormlight or Breath(if allomancer could somehow use them to fuel his abilities) would let Misting use all of 16+ abilities.