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Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Well it looks like this is it for me. Fifth, I suppose. It's very likely that either you or Stick is evil, and you're the only other player with a vote. -
Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Zombies trying to destroy the bridge? Why would they do such a thing? @Rathmaskal, you voted to save the bridge, right?- 383 replies
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Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
What's the minimum number of votes required to save the bridge? And why are there up to three votes to let it be destroyed?- 383 replies
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Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Human Leon suggested destroying the bridge. Zombie Leon knows it would be extremely selfish to deny future refugees a chance to cross the gorge. Save the bridge.- 383 replies
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Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
"Manny, Gus, you have two choices. You can win with everyone except the three who died out of pure spite and the one who was tragically murdered by a net-proof cow. Or you can try to betray fourteen others at the potential cost of your life. To that matter, why are people dying? Is it that multiple conversion attempts on a single player turns into a kill?"- 383 replies
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Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
"All Zombies find Humans? Gus or Pear? End hardship."- 383 replies
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Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Fifth claimed Smoker N2 in response to hearing that I was a Seeker who had scanned a Soother N1, and then claimed to have used his D1 action to Smoke himself and Araris. -
Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
No Human food. All gone. Human hunger incapacitate. Zombie hunger strengthen. Who scout? Find Humans, Gus, Pear. No more death. Only harmony.- 383 replies
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Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
lf I was evil, I already could have submitted the kill unimpeded. All I would have to do is claim that I scanned you as roleless, which fits with Smoker who self-protected(what you told me) and with roleless(which you supposedly told Aman). Or I could have told you I decided to scan someone else under the assumption that by saying I can scan you would be enough to ensure you self-protected with copper(which happens to be true). I would not say Smokers can only harm us. At the very least, Smokers can be used to verify Soothers and demonstrate an action making them incapable of submitting the kill. Maybe they can block one of the Kandra's abilities. What reason is there for village roleless to exist except to make information gathering more difficult? I am curious to hear what precedent makes you think this is something I would do as an elim. Why am I making an elaborate lie when there are so much simpler lies to tell? And if I'm going to be making up lies, why wouldn't I do something that directly gains me something, e.g. I action scanned Lum(true) and saw her target Araris(can't tell because I was roleblocked). @_Stick_, can you confirm that Fifth claimed roleless, and when this claim was? Lying about Smoking yourself and Araris is really not acceptable. It's fine to think that Araris might have been a Smoker who self-protected, but there's a vast difference between maintaining a baseline of suspicion and lying to further a lynch on them. I view your course of action as similar to the hypothetical where I as a village!Seeker am suspicious of Coop and want him lynched, so I claim to have seen him target Araris last night. despite having done no such thing and as a result not being sure if Coop is actually evil. The only reason to lie about such a thing is if you are 100% sure of your conclusion, but want to conceal the method by which you gained that information. As neither Drake nor Rath are evil, we can clearly see that wasn't the case. With only six players, your vote has a great deal of influence in how the lynch turns out. A mislynch today with two elims left brings us down to at least a 75% lose chance if the Hazekiller still has two charges left(kill village!Lum tonight, force a tie tomorrow if necessary by roleblocking Ventyl). If you are evil, it's an 87.5% lose chance at best as we'd need three random lynches to hit elims. -
Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Win Zombie, maybe die Human. Hunger?- 383 replies
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Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
"Two Humans left. Can finally bring peace to group. Where Manny go? Will come back?"- 383 replies
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Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Lachlan? Gone? No, no! Save Human. Time fast. Long life speed time. Save rest.- 383 replies
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Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
There would be little reason and a lot of risk for elim!Devotary to make up a Hazekiller. If I hadn't been roleblocked last night, I would probably continue to focus on Snip, with Lum as a potential teammate. With Araris dead as a Smoker, I would have suspected you and Ventyl for your claimed roles. Falseclaiming a roleblock when it would be so much easier to claim a null result on you puts needless attention on me without much in the way of gain. Who can verify that you claimed roleless? Also, if you're not a Smoker, why did you claim that you and Araris were Smoked D1? That was one of the major reasons I considered a Drake-Rath team, and since I sincerely doubt Araris roleclaimed to you, the possibility that Rath attempted to save Drake should not have been a likely one. -
Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
It would have been far, far easier for me to have claimed to scan you as roleless rather than making up a story about being Hazekilled. You know I can scan, as I used my abilities to determine that Rath was a Soother and that Aonar was not a Coinshot. We don't actually have a claim from @Coop772; are you the Tineye, and if so, what are your scan results? I don't actually know that you're the Hazekiller. Right now, the main evidence pointing towards that is you pretty much knew who I was going to scan every cycle and were the only one who knew that I was going to make my scan N5 instead of D5, while the main reason you wouldn't be the elim Hazekiller is that I told you Aonar wasn't the Coinshot and yet the elims still killed him. Honestly, that latter part is pretty convincing. I know my role, I know Ventyl cannot be an elim Hazekiller, and it's much easier for a Hazekiller to claim roleless rather than Thug, so you, Stick, and Coop are the likely Hazekillers. There's not any proof unless a Hazekiller decides to claim, other than the fact that this would be a foolish plan when I could just claim to have scanned Fifth as roleless. Fifth is a possible Hazekiller because he can't be ruled out for his claimed role. It's entirely possible that you are the Hazekiller. -
Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Fifth asked me to rolescan him at night, to confirm that he was a Smoker assuming Ventyl proved his Soothing abilities. It is highly unlikely that we would have lynched Araris today, even in a contest of two claimed Smokers, while it seems you are perfectly willing to lynch me. An elim Hazekiller who hadn't used up many of their charges is well within reason to roleblock me to block my scan while killing the trusted villager. On that note, I think that means Aonar's kill was not Allomantic in nature, and Aman died because roleblocking Aonar didn't work. Assuming an elim Hazekiller, Ventyl is hard cleared, as the elims could not have Soothed, Hazekilled, and regular killed in the same cycle. This may be the time for the Tineye to claim and present their scan results. In the meantime, the Hazekiller could only be Fifth, Stick, or Coop, and I'm leaning towards Fifth being the Hazekiller at this point. -
Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
So we have six players left. Here they are, with claimed roles attached. Lum-Thug Fifth- Smoker Ventyl- Soother Devotary- Seeker Stick- Coop- One of these players is a Hazekiller, as somebody kindly roleblocked me last night. Three village Hazekillers seems excessive, and I'm also not feeling too confident about two village Soothers and two village Smokers as there wouldn't be any real purpose for two village Smokers unless there's an elim Seeker or Soother or even Rioter hidden in here. -
Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
"Success? No. Selfish. Need help group.- 383 replies
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Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
So you saw that Straw had votes, but not that Ventyl's vote was announced along with the intent to remove Stick's vote? -
Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
"Leon learn adjectives, pronouns. Why fire? All could win together. Now, Ian, Hobo, no win. Human selfish, foolish."- 383 replies
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Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Did you not realise that Ventyl claimed to be Soothing Stick's vote off of Straw, or did you believe the Soothe wouldn't go through? -
Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Zombie: Zombie + Human, no Bill Human: Human - Zombie @Fifth Scholar Words?- 383 replies
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Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
"Pyramid!" "Worth, yes. All pyramid. Break pyramid, Human break." "No. Pyramid, no bottom. Pyramid has all."- 383 replies
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Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
"Cow kill Human. Gun kill Human. Not kill Zombie. Zombie help Human? Zombie eat living. Human eat dead.- 383 replies
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Quick Fix Game 38: ZOMBIES
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to Alvron's topic in Sanderson Elimination
"One atop. Make more. Each layer help more. Pyramid win. Bottom, no pyramid, lose. Pyramid all.- 383 replies
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Long Game 56: Discord in Elendel
Devotary of Spontaneity replied to StrikerEZ's topic in Sanderson Elimination
You had suggested that you might vote for Sart when I asked you what you thought the chances were that Sart was a village Lurcher and you replied that you thought Sart being evil was more likely than two village Lurchers, a WGG on Aman, elim!Aman protecting himself from a non-elim kill role, or Aman lying about his role. You didn't actually cast a vote until ~10 minutes before rollover, so I wanted to check whether you were going to back up your suspicions with a vote. Mostly, it's that I action scanned Ventyl last night, and he took no observable action. Since Ventyl didn't Soothe a vote during the day, he would have had an action available to submit the kill, while elim teammates with roles likely would have wanted to use that role instead of submitting the kill. If Ventyl was on a team with a Smoker, they could have Smoked Ventyl and prevented my scan from seeing Ventyl target Aonar.
