Yitzi2
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I think my idea of "leverage" was less "blackmail" and more "a guarantee to prevent betrayal", but apparently I did not make that sufficiently clear. As someone still fairly new to SE, I have to ask: What makes something toxic and therefore suboptimal, as opposed to simply being the way the game is played?
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Let's see...you have not lost a single non-Voidbringer member, while the Alethi have lost four non-SoH members. (I'm also excluding Ghostbloods from both, of course.) You seem to have all the remaining scanners and are unwilling to use any of them to help us find the remaining Voidbringer (or make sure there aren't actually two remaining Voidbringers), so our only option if we want to prevent betrayal is to keep taking out Parshendi until we find the Voidbringer. So do you have the upper hand? In an outright fight, you might or might not; it's difficult to tell, but I'm inclined to say it'd be close but we'd have the advantage. But in a "pretend to want peace and then backstab later on" contest...I'd say you are getting dangerously close to the point where that is a possibility, and nothing in your recent behavior has done anything to indicate that is not your preferred goal. (Oh, by the way @Seonid , did you miss my vote for BR (currently on the last page of the main thread)? It was in a duller red color and only two letters, so that might be why, but it should probably be in the record.)
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Cloudjumper. (Also, anybody who said "Cloudbringer", I presume that will be taken to mean "Cloudjumper", but just in case, you might want to adjust that.) EDIT: Yes, the Voidbringers have lost a higher percentage of their members...but they're also a lot more dangerous in an open conflict. A Stormform with Warform protection could do a lot of damage before being eliminated. How does it confirm that? He can't have been attacked by a Highprince, since no one else was attacked and survived. EDIT: Sorry for the double post, but I don't know how to delete one.
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Thank you. And now for a bit of RP: Garshin once again found himself in the mists. Well done. It is not often that one in your position succeeds three times in a row. Garshin frowned. It was considered a success even if he died? Then he understood: These tests had specific goals, and survival was rarely among them. Still, dying hurt, and he had no intention of doing it any more than necessary. "So now can I go back home?" You have not even reached the first milestone on your journey. One more success, and you will be given a way to track your progress. Garshin allowed himself a small smile. The journey had apparently only begun, but it did have an end.
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Thank you?
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That assumes you find another SoH.
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We're not achieving any victory unless we take out the Voidbringer. Nevertheless, I did agree to lynching BR, and I keep my agreements. BR. However, I would strongly urge the Parshendi to prove that they're really interested in peace by finding the Voidbringer for us. EDIT: Also, @Seonid can we have the form that Jondesu was in when he died (since we got it for the dead Voidbringers)?
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Perhaps not the best idea; the Shard of Hate might be more inclined to set a precedent of torturing all the parties involved.
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Of course, if we took out the last Voidbringer (assuming there's only 1), the Parshendi would be unable to win by taking out the Alethi.
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The original votes for Straw could very well have been innocent, but those last-minute changes (and retraction) do look fairly suspicious. Then again, I've been in games where I was up for a first-day lynch, ended up not-lynched due to a last-minute switch, and it wasn't an elim plan to save their teammate.
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Yeah; I'd go so far as to say that what characterizes an elim-type faction is that they do know each others' identities.
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Presumably; that's fairly usual for an elim team. And now for a bit of RP (I'll have to edit this if the rest of the writeup contradicts it): The Wanderer turned the corner, and saw a Dakhor monk raise his sword to strike Alvron. He Pulled at the sword, but the Dakhor was supernaturally strong, and managed to get in a killing blow before the sword was ripped from his grip. There goes the last of my Iron. He barely noticed that his bracelet had begun to spin, ever so slowly. 63 words so far.
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He returned to the Cognitive realm, and will presumably be there for a couple of cycles before "passing on". Look at the player list: He's in the Cognitive.
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Oh, I'm sure the confusion is genuine. Whether that was a villager getting confused, or an elim getting confused about which villager they could throw suspicion on...that's a different question. If Drake and Manukos turn out to be one elim and one village, then the confusion is a basis for a village read on BR, but until and unless that's the case, I'm inclined to say NAI. Also: I will be unavailable for the last few hours of this cycle, and the first half or so of the next.
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You're assuming I was disagreeing with your post, rather than providing a comment to support your low assessment of him. Me either. His "would an elim do this" remark, on the other hand...
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Are you suggesting that both Jon and Drake are Ghostbloods?
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"Actual scientists tend to be more careful...for instance, they're much less likely than the average person to confuse the words 'tenet' and 'tenant'."
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Yeah, I have been almost-lynched in what I think might be half of my games for giving honestly-intended-to-be-good advice that many people thought was bad, which is apparently my normal state. (In one of those games I actually was an elim and lynched later on, but the advice was still meant to be good, to try to seem more village-y.) It looks like the lynch is between Alvron and cloud. And while I would rather get information on cloud's meta before voting, there's definitely more reason to vote for him than Alvron. Cloud.
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What would be, then?
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The penalty for confusing homophones with each other is death! Alvron Alvron
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Does this mean you're planning to commit suicide by not using it the next night either?
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I'm sure it was. Your line about "would an Elim have the audacity...", on the other hand, strikes me as very Elim-y somehow. I'm holding off on an actual vote until I get input about your meta, but you've definitely got my FoS. There's actually a way to show the exact code: If you want to show "[color=red]your text here[/color]", type "[color[B][/B]=red]your text here[/color]". (i.e. use another tag to interrupt the tag you want to be inactive.)
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Ah. That makes more sense. However: The best way to find evils would be to scan the Parshendi for Voidbringers. It's fairly likely that the Voidbringer is in a Voidbringer form, so either role or alignment info would identify them, and we only have three plausible candidates (Jon is "cleared", you've done scanning, and Cloud protected you). We wouldn't even have to lynch them quite yet if you're nervous about a Sons victory, just find them.
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The only way the game progresses is via casualties. Unless you meant "don't lynch until we have a confirmed elim, so that the scanners have more time to do their job, and somehow hope the Ghostbloods cooperate and keep things balanced". Because I somehow doubt that the SoH killer, the Parshendi killer, or the Ghostbloods are going to stop their attacks. (Unless you're volunteering for the Parshendi killer to stop, as that's the only one you might be able to affect.)
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Maybe? (If we say no, then of course he would, because it'd be a way to make himself seem less elim-y. If we say yes, then he probably wouldn't. So it has to be a maybe.) Anybody know whether village!cloudjumper tends to specifically try to avoid being lynched?