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Yeah, the fact that he's operating under some kind of geas that prevents him from doing physical harm to another person can have a lot of background reasons... His expertise and satisfaction at dealing a beating to Ghost Kelsier in the Cognitive Realm at the Well of Ascension in Mistborn: Secret History hints at some darkness there.

Does Nightblood actually increase in power the longer you wield it, or is it simply that TLR could wield Nightblood the longest of anyone we've seen due to his Compounding in sixteen different metals? Actually, would TLR be powerful enough to Push and Pull on Nightblood, with sufficient Compounding? Because then he could "wield" Nightblood as a flying sword at a distance. That is truly terrifying. Brandon's emphasized multiple times in WoBs that Nightblood is the single most difficult thing to Steelpush in the Cosmere, but also never said it was flat out impossible - and if anybody could do it at all, surely it'd be Rashek. Related thought experiment: let's say he decided it wasn't worth the cost, what would be the most efficient way for him to prepare to use Nightblood personally (by hand) for a long time? What's the lightest Allomantic metal... Tin? That's also one of the slowest burning Allomantic metals, so it's perfect. He could fill a giant tinmind as full as possible with Compounding, powder the tinmind, and then swallow the saturated tinmind dust just before drawing Nightblood - burning it as slowly as possible (but at a 10x release of the Feruchemical attribute) to fuel the Blade. And now you have a wielder of Nightblood who can fly with Steelpushes, and run around with sonic boom levels of speed with nigh infinite F-steel.

Survivorists don't deny that Harmony exists, is divine, is the "God of Scadrial", and that the kandra are His agents subject to His direct control. Remember, they don't venerate Kelsier as THE God. They venerate Kelsier as also being a divine being - Harmony Himself recognizes that Kelsier had Ascended - and moreover, they venerate what Kelsier advocated and represented as a worldview over the passivity and reflectiveness of Pathians. They place Kelsier over Harmony in their regard not because of his power level, but because of how the religion works for them in everyday life. They also believe he still Survives, out there in the mists, and is still doing things to push people forward. And... They're not wrong. Learning about The Sovereign and his actions in the Southern Hemisphere would probably not rock their world so much as feel like a giant Toldjaso. (Sure they'd be bug-eyed over the news, but from feeling validation, not "this changes everything!") In fact, despite a recent post observing how surprisingly "behind" Scadrians of Era 2 are in Realmatic Theory compared to contemporaneous knowledge on other major Shardic worlds like Taldain, Nalthis, and Roshar, and how ignorant their own double Shard Harmony is about the nature and origin of the powers that he wields (as he is the only living Shard whose Vessel was not present at the Shattering), post-Catacendre Scadrians are far more aware of the nature of their gods than on those other Cosmere worlds as being originally human, of local Scadrian origin with known names and personal histories. That even includes the "Sliverists" who venerate Marsh the Last Inquisitor and likely, the memory of Rashek, the Lord Ruler, and his Steel Ministry.

I think you need to distinguish between the Vessel and the Shard here. Yes, the Vessel that is Sazed is still a Feruchemist, just as Rashek remained one. Should he like Rashek ever "Descend", or give up the Shard willingly without passing Beyond as Kelsier did, he'd be one again. It's built into his Spiritweb. The detail is that, having taken up the Shard of Preservation (as well as Ruin), he could also hardwire his Vessel for "maximum mortal strength Allomancy" the way that Rashek did before Descending to being a mortal Sliver. And I guess, being Harmony which also includes Ruin, he could go even further and hardwire his Vessel for "maximum efficiency Feruchemy", whatever that would mean (it's possible Rashek could not do that, as he only held Preservation while Ascended, and only "most" and not "all" of that Shard to boot - some portion of the power must have been reserved in a "boot ROM" kind of way to keep the Well's prison going while the Ascension happened, and to effectuate the temporary nature of the Ascension so that the Well would refill again). So just like Rashek's "Preservation-Ascension Twiddled Spiritweb Allomancy" was greater in power even than that of a lerasium Mistborn like Elend (per WoB that superceded earlier WoBs on the subject), Sazed's Harmony-Ascension Twiddled Spiritweb Feruchemy might be enhanced from those of an ordinary Feruchemist. Maybe he could store more attributes faster? Cram more into a given metalmind? Or just that his Compounding (assuming he also Twiddled himself for Allomancy) would be even more effective than Rashek's, like a 20x leverage factor instead of "only" a 10x factor?

I've always liked the scene in Mistborn: The Hero of Ages when we first hear directly from any kandra of the First Generation. After the fall of TLR, after all of TenSoon's frantic warnings and descriptions of what was going on above ground, including stories of what Vin experienced at the Well of Ascension - what actually moves them to action is Sazed's simple, logical observation: BRILLIANT! And he didn't even have to tap zinc to do it! I can just picture what it might be like to have lived a thousand years - even if you admitted that yes, TenSoon could be right in saying that Ruin was released and the end times could be upon us, well it still doesn't really feel like it matters, none of this really matters because nothing really matters at all - it's all been seen before, talked about before, done before, existence down here in the kandra caverns of the Homeland is eternal boredom, and -- Wait wait wait a minute there. What did that Worldbringer just say?

Well, Yomen picked up on it, saying that "sixteen is a number of power" in Ministry doctrine, and that within the Ministry it had long been theorized that the true number of Allomantic metals must be sixteen for that reason. That said, I was mostly joking. The fact is that a base numbering system based on 12 would be a lot more useful in a lot of contexts than base 10 one anyway, and in our world low-level computer programming involves base 16 (hexadecimal) values, such that not long ago I celebrated turning "the big 0x30" (30 in hex = 48 in decimal) - it is fairly plausible that one of things Rashek might have done, if he were more technically inclined rather than suppression inclined, would have been to institute hexadecimal as the counting system of the Ministry and hence the Final Empire. (With a nigh-infinite zincmind handy he'd have adjusted himself in no time at all!)

And this is one of the things that always niggled me - shouldn't The Sign have been 1/16 of the popuation, not 16/100 of the population? Though that'd only be 6.25%, so maybe as a practical matter Preservation went with 16%. Which also means that all Ruin had to do to fudge Preservation's little clue was get a base 12 or 16 (hexadecimal) counting system installed as the Final Empire standard, haha.

The scene in Words of Radiance where Shallan's brother Jushu is dismissed into bond slavery by his father, and gets rescued by Shallan's words and actions. So much emotion is explored without dialogue or even description; all of it is implied. Jushu owes a tremendous sum to a darkeyed gambler, Mill, who comes to claim what he is owed from their father, as Jushu had promised. Their father refuses to cover the gambling debts, almost one hundred emerald broams, and waves Jushu off into debt slavery as his two brothers present look on in fear and sadness. It's Shallan who forces them to pool their recent gifts, two jeweled daggers and an aluminum necklace for herself, to try to ransom him. Mill dismisses the items as together coming to fifty emerald broams in value (twenty each for the daggers and ten for her necklace), only half of what Jushu owes, and sneers at her concern for her no-good brother, saying he's not worth it, after noting that he himself had killed his own brother when he had tried to cheat him. Since she still has her necklace, Jushu assumes his brothers somehow convinced Mill to take their daggers to settle his debt, when in fact they had sat back and done nothing - with Balat even saying, as their father had, "he built his own pyre." A somewhat ashamed Balat glances at Shallan and simply replies, "You're my brother." Shallan never says to anyone what really transpired, not to Jushu nor to her other two brothers. As far as we can tell, Shallan never holds this over Balat or Wikim, throwing that in their face in spite or for leverage. It's enough that Jushu was saved, and it's good that Jushu holds his brothers in high regard while perhaps learning a valuable lesson in self-control. And perhaps Balat and Wikim have learned something and grown stronger emotionally as well. And then there's Mill, the hardened and ruthless kinslayer. He had dismissed familial love as pointless and challenged Shallan as to why he should show Jushu pity. But what ultimately moved him appears to be pity for Shallan, and something within him softening his attitude to Jushu as a result of his love for her. Was this her Lightweaver "character transformation of others" secretly at work? Or was this transformation of the everyday kind that happens even in our world, when someone is unexpectedly touched by the deeply intimate emotions of another laid bare? He also tossed the necklace back to Shallan. It was worth ten emerald broams, a pretty big amount. What would move such a calculating man not just to pity but generosity? Pity, yes, but also regard for her courage and openness. He hadn't expected anything to move him to compassion and to mercy - it's not like his challenge to Shallan was met, like a riddle to which he received a correct answer, it had been intended as a taunt with no possibly acceptable answer. And now... He appreciates feeling compassionate and merciful. Perhaps it had been a long time since he'd felt that way: felt so human. A little like rediscovering what it was like, long ago, to have once loved his brother. Or that Jushu did for Shallan what Mill had wished his own brother would had done for him at some point in their lives, but had not.

Eh. Not so much for the Allomancer...! ---- Kelden sighed as the red-faced passenger before him stammered that the several cylindrical metal tubes he'd Allomantically detected in the bag, which after so much practice with his Steelsight he could even tell were filled with tiny gears and wires, were just "sales samples" of a "really, ah, a new kind of electric toothbrush". Who needed a toothbrush that large, and where were the bristles? And why be so embarrassed about them? "Sir, please bring this back to the airship counter and check this bag in for stowage. They'll examine it more closely there if necessary. But I can't let this past for carry-on. NEXT!" Oh, Lord of Mists, help me to Survive this, he thought to himself. In the legendary world of ash, or through the Wild Roughs era of the Lord Dawnshot, Coinshots like me were fearsome heroes, who flew through the cities and could bring down a room full of men with a shower of metal fragments. Now, with constant airship traffic and strict laws about airspace starting at one thousand feet, part-aluminum guns available to anyone with a few hundred boxings, and telephone and electronic messaging rendering even Coinshot courier telegrams obsolete... This is what my Allomancy is worth as a day job?

When Dalinar accidentally made a motion to summon "his" Shardblade after bonding the Stormfather, he got an immediate response of "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?". aND What he LATER did in Thaylen City, actually pulling the Stormfather as a Physical presence (if not as a Blade) to make the Oathgate work seemed to hurt the SF, and not just his pride (though that, as well). I think pulling a "godspren" into the Physical Realm as a Blade is much, much harder (on the spren) that it is for a typical Radiant spren. As for the swirl of gloryspren being like nascent Shardplate to Dalinar, that is interesting. But Dalinar hasn't sworn the Fourth Ideal yet. Then again he hadn't sworn the Third Ideal yet ("I will take responsibility for what I have done; if I must fall, I will rise each time a better man") when he did the Oathgate trick, either.

What, really? Where is/was that mentioned? Interesting! In BoM, when he's giving his little discourse on their "modern" understanding of the Metallic Arts, VenDell specifically mentions it along with nicrosil, aluminum, and duralumin as not being metals that most ancients knew. "Only in recent times have modern metallurgical processes allowed them tho become commonplace." While aluminum was known in the Final Empire (since the Inquisitors applied it to Vin, and it was mentioned on a Ministry plaque from TLR), it was "harvested from the inside of the Ashmounts", not exactly easy to do. And in our own world, chromium was discovered only fairly recently as well. Side question: do we know from a WoB which of the two base metals - chromium (alloy: nicrosil) or cadmium (alloy: bendalloy) - was removed from the "Allomantic Table" that produced Mistings, to allow for atium (alloy: malatium??) Mistings to occur? That didn't mean Mistborn or Feruchemists couldn't use those metals, right, just that there would be no Mistings naturally occuring?

Hey, give the Scadrians a break - they haven't had nearly as much time as those other places to explore! By "Realmatics" you mean a theoretical understanding of Cosmere magic, at a deeper, more fundamental level than the natural local expression of it, right? Like when Shai talks about the Three Realms and how her Forgery interacted or manipulated them, and of course, any worldhopping via the CR. Studying Realmatics from a magical perspective requires the ability to access and then to study Investiture (as on Nalthis, the golden age of discovery was in the era of the Five Scholars). Or, to worldhop away - which means easy access to a Perpendicularity. Even if the Scadrian Metallic Arts are very powerful and portable off-world, they've actually been very circumscribed for most of their history. In "Classical" Scadrial, before Rashek, Allomancers (expressed only as Mistings) were very rare - they maybe didn't even really know what they were, especially as a pretty severe Snapping experience was required? Any application hemalurgy was essentially dormant potential, and the most common kind of Investiture manipulation was done by Terris Feruchemists, who were isolated and conservative. After Rashek, Allomancy in particular became far more common (at least in the Final Empire - not in the South), and hemalurgy too, but study of such things was suppressed by TLR. He worked very hard to reverse and to prevent ordinary technological advances such as gunpowder, steam engines, etc., to maintain his power built on Allomancy and controlling its use. And even when it came to preserving suppressed knowledge, as with the Keepers, Ruin was busy twiddling things to build towards his eventual release. As for the Perpendicularites that allowed relatively straightforward physical access into the Cognitive Realm, the Pits of Hathsin were heavily guarded in the Final Empire, and as we saw in Secret History, the power in the Well of Ascension was too busy being used to imprison Ruin to be an easy/safe way across. Finally, the most Realmatically oriented metals in Allomancy and Feruchemy were the rarest to get, even impossible to get, until recently. So whatever pre-FE "Worldbringer" Feruchemists had developed any deeper understanding of how Feruchemy worked, they still wouldn't have had access to the metals for the most Realmatically linked attributes: aluminum (Identity), nicrosil (Investiture), chromium (Fortune), or duralumin (Connection). They could maybe have figured out about how goldminds worked, based on what it could heal and what it couldn't, but since all their metalminds were keyed to Identity, there was kind of no way for them to realize "aha, the healing maps to a Cognitive image of self!" because it was always the Feruchemist healing him/herself - there was no way to do an external experiment! So really, it's only been in the 350-ish years since the Catacendre that people have been free to openly use and to study all forms of Scadrian Investiture... With a very, very small population of people able to do it, since the world was winnowed down to around 10,000 individuals, with only latent Feruchemy in the Terris population, most Allomancers having been wiped out, one surviving Mistborn in Spook. The Southerners are the most aware as of The Bands of Mourning only because the Sovereign, a Sliverized Kelsier with a reincorporated Physical form, went down and Did Stuff, Gave Them Stuff, and Explained Stuff to them. Didn't VenDell say something about how Harmony had dropped hints about stuff like that to the kandra, but wanted Scadrians (including kandra) to figure it out on their own?

You mean at the time he goes to kill Jezrien? Most definitely. When he was given the golden-white knife to do that deed, Hnanan told him, "Odium has a command for you. This is rare for a human." He doesn't bat an eye at the mention of Odium, he just says, "Speak it."

Yes, that's what I mean by "different from what happened back at the palace" (at the warcamps). Not only because Elhokar was a combatant, with drawn Blade in the middle of a battle, but because Moash was coming straight for him, openly. Kaladin or anyone else could have acted to intercede, even if Elhokar himself was preoccupied or incapacitated. Remember the last thing that Kaladin said to Moash, who was still hesitating as to whether or not to confront Kaladin to get at Elhokar at the palace. He'd already rejected Kaladin's defense of Elhokar saying Roshone, not him, being the one truly at fault for his grandparents' death; that's his right. What really makes Moash's actions then wrong was the subterfuge of it all. And in my view, that contributed to what killed Kaladin's bond with Syl: not just the decision to betray his oath to Dalinar, who had assigned him bodyguard duty to Elhokar, but the concept of honor that was being broken in the way he was doing it. "We have to be better than this, you and I... Moash, we're not going to be this kind of men. Murders in dark corridors, killing a drunk man because we find him distasteful, telling ourselves it's for the good of the kingdom. If I kill a man, I'm going to do in the sunlight, and I'm going to do it only because there is no other way." What was Moash proposing to do, at the time? To kill Elhokar but to frame the Assassin in White for the action, and then to continue living on as a high ranking member of Bridge Four, the most trusted corps under Dalinar Kholin - the corps that, as far as anybody knew, had repeatedly saved his nephew Elhokar's life in the past, but sadly was not able to do so in the end. And what was Moash evidently prepared to do? To kill Kaladin to complete that deception... And then to go back to Bridge Four. He may not have thought about what that would be like, but that's what he was effectively trying to accomplish. In contrast, what Moash did at Kholinar to kill Elhokar, and later to kill Jezrien on assignment from Odium who he'd openly declared for, may be as much or more "traitorous" to Rosharan humankind, but it is not "dishonorable".

Eh, Jezrien had long ago abandoned his duty as a guardian of mankind. You might say it was a kind of military execution for desertion, though of course that's not the reason Odium gave him the order. Amaram and TLR both believed what they were doing was right - not in a purely selfish way, though self-aggrandizement was certainly a goal along the way, but for The Greater Good. Moash never pretended that getting rid of Elhokar was about the Greater Good - well he did try that line on Kaladin, who called him out on it, and he admitted it was really about personal revenge. And TBH, I am hoping for a redemption arc for Moash. My "hate" for Moash is not just for what he's done, but why he's done it.

OK, the thing about Moash to me (and I"m sure I've posted it before, perhaps not in this particular thread) isn't about Kaladin being more righteous than him with their oaths. They're both oathbreakers with respect to their vows to Elhokar as king, in Dalinar's service as Bridge Four when all the bridge crews had accepted his command of them, and Kaladin admitted as much in his confrontation with Moash. It's the personal betrayal that is the worst. Moash owed Kaladin not his life, his training, and the very Shards he used to attack the man who he'd said would be "my Captain, forever". If he was going to put his vow of revenge on Elhokar above his allegiance to Kaladin - it did predate it, after all - that's one thing. But then, lay down those Shards and say so. I mean, let's say Kaladin was late by just enough time in swearing the Third Ideal to revive his bond with Syl. Moash burns out his eyes with the Shardblade that Adolin gave Kaladin, for deeds Moash had no part in, and that Kaladin then gave to him. That should scream DO NOT DO THIS to anybody with a shred of personal honor. Then what? Was Moash going to flee the warcamps with Graves and go Full Diagram? I don't think so. (He didn't even know about the Diagram at that point, right?) He and Graves were still planning on making it look like the Assassin in White did it all, to pave the way for Dalinar to become King. Which means Moash was planning on returning to Bridge Four, lying the whole while about what happened to Kaladin, and very likely being given command of Bridge Four by now-King Dalinar as a full Shardbearer who was known as Kaladin's most trusted and most capable man. Are you still defending Moash's decisions and actions as "not evil"? Or at least, not wrong? Seriously? Even Moash himself regrets them later. You might say that in the heat of the moment - he had not expected to encounter Kaladin at the palace while going after Elhokar, after all - he let his deep-rooted desire for revenge, so close at hand, overpower him and lead him to do what he would later consider actions he should not have taken. Him killing Elhokar at Kholinar with a spear after fleeing Bridge Four, that is different from what happened back at the palace.

My very strong advice: don't just dive into Era 2, tempting though it is. You'll spend the first half of Alloy of Law searching for what, and who, isn't there. Switch off and read something else, Cosmere or not, and come back for Era 2 after the memories of Era 1 just that - memories - because Era 2 is not a continuation of Era 1, despite a few carryover characters.

Right, so if she wasn't lying to Dalinar in TWoK about having always been faithful to Gavilar, what marriage-level oaths might she have forsworn in her life? What she actually said on the topic to Dalinar was: "Gavilar is dead. I was never unfaithful while he lived, though the Stormfather knows I had ample reason." Does the "ample reason" imply that Gavilar was unfaithful to her, or neglectful, or abusive? Would her having a relationship with another man after Gavilar had died - not one "traditionally" if not textually forbidden by the Vorin Church, as one with Dalinar as her brother-in-law by marriage would be - be considered "unfaithful?" Is a Vorin widow expected to maintain that commitment until/unless remarried? Nah, I don't feel like Brandon is building some hidden "in between Gavilar and Dalinar" romantic relationship for Navani over the first three books here. It's not particularly his style, and there is literally nothing else suggesting it aside from this little hint. Notice that the Stormfather used the plural in his question and accusation. DO OATHS HOLD MEANING TO YOU? .... YOU HAVE BROKEN OATHS BEFORE. How many "oaths" has Navani spoken in her life? Is it at all possible that Navani is a forsworn Radiant, perhaps an unconscious one the way that Shallan was for a while? ... But the Stormfather would probably be much more openly angry about that. He is not shy about saying directly to Kaladin that he had KILLED MY BELOVED ONE when he broke his bond with Syl, even though he didn't know exactly how it happened; I doubt he would hold back in saying something similar to Navani, or to Dalinar about Navani, at a time when the two of them are specifically seeking his blessing. The Stormfather "seemed content" with her rebuttal, too: "The right oaths [hold meaning to me]... All people have [broken oaths]. We're frail and foolish. This one I will not break. I swear it." So what does this mean? Maybe he was talking about her blowing off meetings and ghosting people by spanreed!

Ha, I do not remember that. I'm going to have to go and search for when that happened.

Excellent point. Specifically, can you extend just one arm out without the other one balancing it in the opposite direction? And perhaps this illustrates what Brandon was getting at with CoG vs. "center of self", even if the latter is for purely narrative reasons versus "this makes sense in an in-world physics" kind of way. We know we see Vin and Wax doing things like using their arms freely to draw daggers or guns, to pull out and swig vials of metal, etc., while flying - either they were "turning off" their steel momentarily to do so, or their Steelpushing line would have been altered in the act of doing so. It's probably easier just to say "they are pushing off of themselves, their weight matters, but don't focus too much on exactly where the balancing point is on their body while they're doing so, OK?"

Taking this statement at face value, there is still something wrong with the premise: that the spren are choosing people to bond with based on "how capably they will handle their duties as a Radiant", and furthermore, that their primary view of those duties are those that require physical attributes to fulfill (e.g., hand to hand combat being best done with all limbs functioning, all five senses, etc.). We already have numerous counterexamples to the latter. Lopen, Lift, and The Stump surely were not chosen based on combat ability with Shardblades or Shardplate (which don't come until the Third and Fourth Ideals, anyway). OK, so maybe you weren't specifically looking at combat. So what "duties" of a Radiant is precluded by what you call a "physiological disorder"? Because there is not an ideal of a "Surgebinder in action" for the spren when they choose a human to bond with - "A Windrunner's gotta fly!" - there is an ideal of spirit, of character, of choices of action and the reasons for those choices, that they are attracted to (honorspren are attracted to honor). The Surges and their resulting applications and uses will then foillow as a result, not as a predicate. As Teft explained (his view of) part of the Immortal Words: "Journey before destination... In the end, all men die. How you lived will be far more important to the Almighty than what you accomplished." And so for a spren, what attracts is what a person is, what a person represents, not what acts a person can accomplish - or specifically, how one might accomplish them.

Hmm. I never read that into his comment to Lift in Edgedancer, but yeah, "the greather power of the oaths" and "without Honor to regulate this... [might] allow the Voidbringers [to return]" does suggest it. I wonder what "greater power of the oaths" means? The further Ideals? Or something else?

I agree with this. Blind Jasnah would certainly have things to overcome in Alethkar, and we haven't seen any blind or deaf people "on-screen" so we don't know what kinds of in-world prejudices or accommodations exist. Scholarship in particular would be a challenge - women do all the reading and writing, is there a "Braille" equivalent for the blind or vision impaired, and how much material is there like that? Or would Blind Jasnah require a very trusted assistant? However that detail would work, I have no doubt that "Blind Jasnah" would still be Jasnah, even if blind from birth. For one, whatever accommodations or aids would be necessary to function as a blind scholar in Alethkar, the daughter of King Gavilar would have it. For another, she's far too iron of will and keen of mind to simply stay in or to retreat into a shell of limitations. She would overcome them. And it's that, plus her keen mind (and proximity to other "spren-attracting" types like her father was), which led to her forming a Nahel bond with Ivory. And don't underestimate the "visual distraction" aspect of certain kinds of abstract thinking, exactly the domain that Jasnah is strongest in (and what makes her an Elsecaller, the Order with the strongest affinity to the Cognitive Realm). I understand that it's counter-intuitive, but did you know that some of the greatest contributions to the mathematical fields of geometry and topology, the study of shapes and surfaces and their properties, have been made by blind people, and in fact, blind mathematicians are heavily skewed to those fields? It's almost as if the visual cortex parts of the brain that are not "fed" by optical input can become a kind of "GPU unit" for spatial imagining. And yes, of course blind people have a concept of "space". They can walk around a room and know where things are relative to other things and themselves, right?

Well, what Nale was "just plain wrong" about (and was apparently fed by Ishar, I agree with that 100%) was that people forming Nahel bonds would trigger the True Desolation. On the other hand, having just Taln go back does appear to have "been enough" to prevent "regular" Desolations, as there wasn't one for over 5,000 years, which a momentarily sane Taln found "wonderful".

Nah, we do actually have what amounts to Navani POVs and it seems clear even in TWoK that she was "interested" in Dalinar from way back. But you do raise an interesting point of detail. The Stormfather specifically calls Navani out with: DO OATHS HOLD MEANING TO YOU? -- YOU HAVE BROKEN OATHS BEFORE. I think the Stormfather uses the term "oath" quite particularly, so he's not just saying something like "and sometimes you blow off meetings or ghost people by spanreed on purpose!" Assuming he his not referring to a broken Nahel bond, what IS that referring to? Did she cheat on Gavilar (in violation of wedding vows), but evidently not with Dalinar?