Steeldancer

Ok so we know that hoid has collected various investitures from across the cosmere: allomancy, unkeyed feruchemical metalminds ( I got that WoB ) breath, he tried to be an elantrian, and he is a yolish lightweaver. He, as of the moment, has no investitures from roshar. Or does he? What if, early on in his career, he sought out the old magic and asked to be PRESERVED or something similar to that? And so Cultivation made him able to recover from ridiculous spiritual wounds? But she also gave him a curse- he is unable to harm others? And now he HATES that curse. And therefore hoid and cultivation dont get along very well. Realmatically, it would be him drawing closer to the spiritual realm, like lift is closer to the cognitive realm

Well obviously sanderson otherwise I wouldnt be posting it here. With the spirits who jump from body to body.

Don't know who read this, but what did you think of it?

Well she seemed happy with the answer so

I got 2 questions answered. Hoid does have unkeyed metalminds, although I thought he was going to give me an evasive answer there for a minute. He also confirmed that yes the ancient heralds were DIRECTLY powered by honor, albeit through their honorblades. This is confirmation that they didn't need to breath storm light, and sort of explains why they need so much more stormlight now. My brother wanted to know what would happen if one of the ancient heralds held an unsheathed nightblood. Which he RAFO'd much to no surprise from me. My girlfriend asked why stormlight makes things cold, which apparently has to do with water condensing all over the place, which makes things cold. For some reason the investiture causes the water to condense... I wonder why.

He could. But he is not a fullborn feruchemist, otherwise he wouldn't need unkeyed metalminds. But he probably had a limited number of unkeyed metalminds... unless he has just one to store his identity so he could make more... but did the ancient terrismen even know about that ability? Because they can't make that now without hemalurgy or the bands of mourning. ANYWAY, excuse my musing, unless he has a way to store his identity to make more unkeyed metalminds, he can compound, but only until the metalminds he has are gone. At that point, he can no longer use that feruchemical ability, because he doesn't have that metalmind any more. Unless someone made a new one. Do you see what I mean, sort of?

I love how you're tearing apart the whole hoid sense thing, but I'm wondering if he could pull off compounding (which I don't think he can, if he needs unkeyed metal minds and he can't exactly BURN those, because then he won't have anything to store in!), and what kind of fun things he could be doing with that...

I just got a bunch of books signed, and I got a WoB that hoid DOES have more unkeyed metalminds. It probably hasn't been processed yet, but do with that as you will

*sings* unless you're an EDGEDANCER or a DUSTBRINGER. magical solution

Yes I know that mercury eventually causes madness. But imagine vin using mercury instead of horseshoes. An actual storm of liquid metal... In fact, what would happen if you pushed down on a lake of mercury? That could be cool.

Unless you set up large push pull harmonium factories.

I mean I'm used to not overthinking the whole speed thing, because i watch the flash LOL but seriously @hwiles all I truly care about is that it could and hopefully will happen. STEELDANCER

Shockingly there is no friction shenanigans. They feel the heat. They can only go so fast before they will just... burn up. But, if you give them the abrasion surge, wahlah! You have the Flash (or as I'm calling him, steeldancer)

At this point I have something to contribute- get a tin pin, stick it in a spider, and what do you get? Spider sense.

@Itchy SavantI'm going to boskone on friday. I will mention this

My name is Barry Allen, and I am the fastest compounder alive. Once I was just a normal steel compounder. Then I visited roshar and was chosen by the Cultivationspren. With my now unbounded speed, I protect both scadrial and roshar from harm. When I was young, the Steelbringer killed my mother for hemalurgy and framed my father. But now I will hunt him down and bring him to justice. Because I am... STEELDANCER

I was rereading well of ascension and thinking about bands of mourning when I had a thought- what would it do to our modern society if we had access to unkeyed food and water metalminds? Would people even eat anymore? You would probably have to recycle the metalminds back to the company where they would either have people there literally just eating and filling metalminds as a JOB or using harmonium to replicate those abilities. What would it do to weight issues? For that matter what if scadrial had olympics? Instead of drug abuse you would have metal abuse... and maybe bronze compounding using unkeyed metalminds rather than drugs... determination addiction wouldn't that be weird. Imagine the stuff that would happen to society. My thoughts are not entirely coherent right now. Ok. Back to the industrial feruchemy idea. The idea that you could literally have an entire industry centered around refilling unkeyed metal minds (especially if you don't have a compounder handy) is frankly terrifying. And yet that is EXACTLY what could happen to scadrial, especially if they take the whole capitalism path. Ferring and Misting rights movements... how weird to think about

I've been telling you guys for ages- this is how we get a Brandon sanderson equivalent of the Flash! Although I would call him Steeldancer, which is a pretty cool name.

I finally fleshed out a theory of mine. Essentially, shardplate (of a radiant) is directly related to the essence of the order. This is based on a couple of observations: wyndle is closely related to crystal, syl to wind, ivory to oil as an inkspren, although I don't know how pattern relates to blood or water. Based on this, I would predict that glys is very plant like, a dustbringer spren (I'm guessing a couragespren) would be fairly fire like. A highspren would be fairly smoky. Similarly, the spren of bondsmiths is the most human like, or "fleshy." This wouldnt be exact but I assume it would follow this pattern. Now, syl seems to have a strong analog with the windspren. And windspren are attracted when kaladain does his thing. So i propose that each orders' shardplate is made from a spren that directly analogs to the essence that relates to the order. Furthermore, I believe the gemstones were added to the shardplate after the recreance. Finally, if the radiants were able to turn related spren into shardplate, then I hypothesize that they were able to build with other spren too. Thus, the shardblade lock, the shardblade guard... although why did they even need shardblade guards? Unless the spiritual aspect of the shardblade made it cut through things no matter what shape the spren sword made... which would explain how that would work.

I AM ATTENDING this is my first Brandon sanderson signing so I have plenty of questions to ask. But I am curious how to then record and file all those WoBs. Any help on that?

I listened to the reading of the oathbringer prologue, and it made me remember an issue I had. Does anybody realize the heralds are still around? That was one of the reasons it was such a shock to me when I realized darkness was Nale. But on roshar, other than hoid, why would they want the heralds to return like gavilar and the sons of honor want, if they're already around? Or are they saying they want the heralds restored to their former glory, rather than the rather sorry state they are in at the moment.

I have always thought it would be better as a mini series.

@Oversleepnot to seem difficult but why can't they just take the powers? We know nothing about how this works on roshar, so I'm imagining you have (lines are connections): Person-spren-surges So you can spike the first line to steal the spren bond and the surges, like you are saying. Or you spike the second line, and only steal the surges. This would likely kill/mostly destroy both the spren and the person, rather than leaving the spren intact as stealing the spren bond would do. If Brandon has said anything in this (probably on redditt. I can't navigate that place like I can theory land) I would love to hear it.

Ok I've looked all over looking for the fact that hemalurgy steals spren. All I can find is that it will take surgebinding. Where is that from? Specifically I imagined that the hemalurgy would target the spiritual connection to the surges, that is granted by the spren. Not targeting the spren itself.