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Hmm, that might work. (Though if fabrials are 10 based isn't it possible that only 10 of the allomantic metals work in cages?)

I think Cultivation is directed growth, which can absolutely include pruning (eg Dalinar's memories). But I don't think the Intent is *about* destroying in order to create (IE I don't think Cultivation would prefer an option involving destruction over one that promoted an equal amount of growth without destruction). I doubt Cultivation was involved in Honor's death, at least willingly as she still loved him per WoB. (Odium engineering some kind of Shardic Intent clash against the Vessels' will is possible, though, I guess). The question to me is whether T-Odium's goals are counter to Cultivation. Rayse-Odium would have apparently destroyed Roshar, which absolutely would be. But T-Odium probably doesn't want to (and likely can't due to his oath to protect Kharbranth).

On the other hand an Awakened object is very strongly defined by its Command/visualization... I think it's plausible that the Breath sources have some effect but I think Shashara's visualization would be much more defining.

I think some changes (Sliver nature/expanded soul) would be permanent but others would not be. But the only evidence I have for that is Rashek being unable to kill using the Well but able to kill afterwards, and using the Well isn't quite the same as holding the full Shard. Leras was still alive and holding Preservation when Rashek used the Well.

Although does the sun shine in the Cognitive? Highstorms aren't dangerous in Roshar's Cognitive. So maybe you could worldhop out even if physical space travel would be too dangerous. Of course there might not be a perpendicularity...

Yeah most of these won't work, but I think fabrial tech would as that is just machinery anyone can use. (Not sure about Surge Fabrials like Soulcasters as given that they cause savantism Investiture must still flow through the user's spiritweb - but those are really different things from artifabrian fabrials anyway.) Medallions... as we know them probably not, due to the needed Intent as @Quantus says. But there are probably forms of ettmetal powered Metallic Arts tech that would work. But if one somehow became sapient I guess more things would be possible.

Yeah, directly accelerating bullets probably makes more sense than imitating a gunpowder gun with fabrial tech. My one question is power density/output limits on fabrial tech. You can attract/repel things, but can you build a repeller that achieves bullet speeds?

In 2013 my uncle had a copy of the first Mistborn book at a family get together. I borrowed it, read it in one day (about 12 hours of reading with only breaks for meals) and was immediately hooked. Over the next 6 or 8 months I found Elantris, Warbreaker, and WOK and read WOR right around when it came out.

I don't know.... I mean talking swords are an old idea in fantasy, Stormbringer in the Elric series and Turin's sword Gurthang in the Silmarillion/Children of Hurin. (And I believe Tolkien got it from the Kalevala - Finnish myth).

Ruin is basically entropy, the concept that nothing is permanent, everything changes, breaks down into fundamental elements. Preservation is basically stasis. Honor is about oaths and bonds, choosing to be bound by something, keeping your word. I don't think it's really about goodness - the fact an oath has been sworn is more important than the content of the oath. Odium is controversial: I'd say the concept is less broad than Rayse-Odium's claim of Passion, but still broader than just "hate". I think Odium is ultimately the drive for conflict, fury/rage and hate etc. (There's a comment in RoW that the power wants disagreement/conflict even when Rayse wants to be obeyed unquestioningly). Cultivation: less clear; i think its about fostering growth of all things, not just in a nature sense but also personal/character growth as seen in her interactions with Dalinar Devotion: possibly love, but given how Seon bonds work I think it might be closer to "loving service" or "loving obedience". Or "caring (for someone/something)" in the active rather than the emotional sense. Not necessarily in a romantic sense: I think Sam in Lord of the Rings is very Devotion. Dominion: probably much like conquest, service/obedience imposed from above.

I think it would probably be fatal - Jezrien's soul/Cognitive Shadow evaporated/went beyond due to having "no valid Connection" to the physical or spiritual realm. But I don't know you could get there with Duralumin Feruchemy- it may not store all forms of Connection but be something more specific.

Wait, really? I'd like to see that... that would totally change how I saw Nightblood (I assumed part of the problem is that either Shashara herself didn't have a good enough/sufficiently well thought out definition of Evil, or didn't incorporate it well enough into the visualization of the Command, so Nightblood kind of had to make it up for himself or rely on his wielder).

Given all the talk about how scary Unchained Bondsmith powers are, I think that's likely possible. Though probably a bad idea, I feel like a Shard would be able to defend itself against something like that. EDIT: and I'm not sure adding a small amount of Honor to Odium would help much. 95% Odium 5% Honor might be something like sworn vengeance or battle fury.

Yeah given that the Trustwarren didn't create a perpendicularity, if its possible at all to create one with metalminds or godmetals it would take a really colossal quantity. (IMO it's possible that these forms of Investiture are too "locked in" to doing one specific thing, you might need more 'free' Investiture to make a perpendicularity?)

I really like this theory. I thought The Girl who Looked Up was possibly about moving to Roshar from Ashyn (thus the appearance of highstorms for the first time) but I guess Shinovar is also highstorm free... Though both events could have gotten blended into one over millennia of legend, so the same story kind of refers to both now that they're not remembered as separate events (or as historical events at all). I didn't get the broader connections of the Queen Tsa story at all. Mishim = Mishram is especially interesting because isn't there a reference to "Honor's Moon" which would imply the three Shards are linked to the three moons? But Odium wasn't originally one of Roshar's Pure Tones... if Mishram was originally of Roshar pre-Odium, but is of Odium now, that could explain the connection.

I don't think Hoid actually has many Breaths after the RoW epilogue (his perfect pitch is lost or at least messed up) and Vasher's current number of Breaths is unknown - he's living on Stormlight now so he doesn't necessarily have many. But if they do have enough, perfect pitch would definitely be very useful for what Navani and Raboniel were doing!

I'm skeptical that Dawnshards actually have infinite Investiture. A ton, yeah, but Rysn's body doesn't disappear/vaporize the way actual Vessels of Shards do. So I think it's significantly less than a full Shard. I think a Dawnshard is more analogous to a huge amount of Breath: Heightening type effects but no body vaporization.

Exactly what regular-matter properties physically manifested Investiture has ... we still don't really know. Liquid/solid/gas forms of the same Investiture are distinctly different things, yet (Mistborn)

Khriss at least believes Adonalsium didn't Ascend - in Secret History she says the sixteen killed him, becoming the first to Ascend. Adonalsium probably did work in many ways like a super Shard, but imo the need for a Vessel is probably related to the Shattering. I'd think Adonalsium's mind was integral to his Investiture like a spren. Adonalsium willingly allowing the Shattering seems quite plausible -- if reality worked the way Adonalsium wanted it to he could have stopped it -- and it fits the Iriali One and Many mythology.

I think this would work - probably not automatically, but two Shards working together could probably find a way around the Connection limitation (maybe just "Cultivation/Koravellium asks Dalinar to use his Connection powers" or stealing Ishar's Honorblade). But I don't think Taravangian will give up power. Even before being molded by the Intent of Odium, he thinks *he* can fix things better than someone else could.

I don't think Fused can possess humans (I think they use the singer's gemheart) though apparently humans can become Fused (Odium says he'll turn Dalinar into one if he loses the contest). I think that pre-Fused singers had limited and indirect access to Surge effects, Stoneshaping through "talking to the stones" (maybe interacting with ambient spren in the environment?) rather than working through a single major spren like Radiants do. But then I don't know how Fused use the Surges either... does the Fused itself count as a spren bonded to the singer body? Or is it more like the Honorblade Surgebinding and the Fused basically has a chunk of Odium stuck in its soul that lets it access a Surge? EDIT: I think the ancient singer Surge effects were much safer & more limited than Honor era Radiant/Honorblade or Fused Surgebinding, much less the current unbound Radiant/Honorblade Surgebinding. It might not really be Surgebinding per se, perhaps more like Rosharan "natural magic". I wonder if the singer way to grow plants with Light and rhythms and lifespren is something similar... maybe that's "natural magic" proto fabrial science and their Stoneshaping is "natural magic" proto Surgebinding.

Tress/Lumar: yeah, I think Aethers are not associated with a specific Shard and are probably pre-Shattering. There's a WoB that they claim not to be from Adonalsium, which is super weird because all Investiture is from Adonalsium... maybe that's a boast based on the grain of truth that they're pre-Shattering? -- Sunlit Man: Ambition was mortally wounded in the Threnody system but actually died elsewhere, so this could be the actual place of death. I can totally see Valor also. Or an avatar of Autonomy given the Taldain similarity. Though I also think that this might be a pre Shattering, Adonalsium designed setup... but even then the Investiture would presumably be "associated with" one or more Shards post Shattering.

Hmm, ok, maybe I'm arguing against something you're not actually saying. I totally agree with the first statement. Those core legal/political ideas being enshrined in the Words of Founding would rule out the idea that "nobles have arbitrary/absolute power over the people they rule and that's OK". But ordinary governing power, subject to citizens retaining basic rights, that's something else. I think it's totally likely that noble houses have legal police powers etc. in their estates outside the city. I don't see who else would have that authority, in fact. But I think they *don't* have the right to ignore whatever version of due process the Basin has, or to violate the basic rights recognized by that culture, and doing so would be shameful & in some sense "illegal" even if there is no Basin-wide authority to enforce that in practice. Oh yeah the Basin is nothing like fully farmed, as we see in BOM - totally agree there. But I think *specific* resources (eg a gold mine or a tin mine) rather than just farmable land might be more fully utilized. I agree that the more tech you have the more innovation rather than natural resources becomes the primary driver of wealth, but I think the Basin (~1910 tech) is only beginning that process. I'd say that's largely a change that happened over the course of the 20th century in RL.

I think they do have to be in a specific location, but there are multiple valid locations for any power. So it's not that "anywhere between the ear and the upper arm" is valid for Allomantic bronze, those are two separate valid points, whereas somewhere in between like the neck or shoulder wouldn't be valid for Allomantic bronze. The Hemalurgy chart shows bind points by quadrant (physical, mental, etc.) but it's not complete - we're told in HoA there are hundreds. The chart notes that the points shown are those relevant to the creation of Inquisitors.

Those WoBs do seem somewhat contradictory. I think there's another one somewhere that says Allomancers are resistant to the toxicity but not immune - which fits better with what we see in Era 1, if they were totally immune there'd be no need to warn Vin about it. (Pewter has lead in it, so cadmium isn't the only one with toxicity problems.)