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  1. cometaryorbit
    I'm not convinced Abrasion necessarily affects air resistance (that strikes me as possibly an Adhesion effect under 'Pressure and Vacuum') but if it did, why couldn't it work by setting the drag coefficient to zero? I do think Windrunners with sufficient knowledge/skill might be able to reach crazy speeds by combining Adhesion to reduce air pressure in front of them with Gravitation. Or if they can't do this with their natural abilities, I think it's within what the Surge of Adhesion can potentially do in fabrials or whatever.
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    Another thought on the Kelsier vs Moash thing: Kelsier died before the Final Empire was actually overthrown, and being dead & in the Cognitive Realm forced him to massively change his methods. Arguably Kelsier died soon enough to prevent him from becoming a villain. If Moash had died at the end of book 2, I think he'd be way more sympathetic.
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    At least according to the Stormfather, Honor did not know of/consider the idea that the Heralds could break - he thought it would work forever but was wrong. I think the idea of torturing the Heralds came up after the Oathpact was already in place and the Fused were imprisoned on Braize, but due to Honor's nature/Intent he couldn't really change the Oath already in place. EDIT : also, the Oathpact was not a pact between Shards. It was between the Heralds and Honor, and apparently the idea was the Heralds' ("they went to Honor, and he gave them this right, this oath") - probably Ishar. Odium's imprisonment was before the Oathpact.
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    'A tune that no man can hear' to me suggests the Singers' Rhythms. Which suggests Ba-ado-Mishram -- her imprisonment tore away the Singers' Rhythms and made the Sibling lose the Rhythm of the Tower (I think that's what it's called). The gender is wrong though... but then we have the "two dead men" = Kaladin and Shallan Death Rattle, so that may not be definitive.
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    I'm not sure. Existing heating fabrials using flamespren seem to create heat rather than actual flames, so a weapon like that might be more like an IR laser than a flamethrower. I can see that duralumin might change the continuous long-term heat output we see from existing heat fabrials into an explosive burst of heat using up all the Stormlight in the gem at once. Not sure about targeting though... unless it's the feruchemical use of duralumin that's relevant to fabrials? Connection to the target? Possible... but if there isn't a "burst" option I don't know if you could get fabrial powered* weapons at all. The big weakness I see in existing fabrial tech, in terms of emulating say 20th century Earth tech, is power output / energy concentration. The airships being developed now are chull powered, which is a pretty major limit. *Even grandbows seem to be using the augmenter fabrial to add material strength, with the actual energy coming from the user/Shardplate, rather than the fabrial converting stormlight to energy.
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    Hmm. Another thought: there's a WoB that the dagger that killed Jezrien works on the same cosmere principles as Hemalurgy, and cosmere scholars might disagree on whether it is Hemalurgy or not. Now obviously silver isn't one of the sixteen metals, but perhaps this apparent broader non-Scadrian hemalurgy-esque magic is what's needed. The question does ask about an aluminum *spike*, so maybe Brandon's answer is continuing the hemalurgy theme.
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    I disagree - I doubt nicrosil compounding lets you create new powers. Allomancy and Feruchemy Spiritual DNA genes interfere, which is why Feruchemists in Era 2 have only one power (Ferrings) rather than all of them as in Era 1. A natural Fullborn might not be impossible (TLR seemed to think it was possible), and early Era 1 bloodlines were much stronger than Era 2*. But I think it would be a "maybe once in a thousand years" thing if possible at all. You might get Mistborn with one Feruchemy power or full Feruchemists with one Allomantic power though... which would still be super scary. A Mistborn with f-Gold would be terrifying, with mobility making it far harder to capture them, and one with f-Steel would be a nightmare. *Allomancy was closer to lerasium era, and many Allomancers died in the Collapse and Ruin's release; TLR hunted Feruchemists for ages and all the Keepers at the time of Ruin's release were killed except Sazed, who removed himself from the Era 2 founder population by Ascending. Harder than regular metalminds, yes, but not necessarily as Invested as an entire human soul.
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    They aren't. Awakening is "end neutral" in the sense of Investiture, not energy. (In the process of Awakening, new Breaths are not drawn from the Spiritual Realm nor are Breaths consumed; existing Breath is just moved around. Breath is only added to the system when new people are born and only lost from the system when people die without giving it away.) In end-positive systems the user draws Investiture from the Spiritual Realm or Shard while using the magic. In end-negative system there is loss when existing Investiture is transferred. In Mistborn for example Also, Wyndle is very unsure there (he says it should work that way but Lift is so weird who knows).
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    That seems to be the right line of thought given that strong Bronze Allomancy can hear the Well's pulsing which is a Pure Tone of Scadrial - thus Preservation's Tone. But different Allomantic metals have different bronzepulses, so even though Allomancy is a purely Preservation system they can't just be Preservation's tone.
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    Ah, ok, that makes sense.
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    Huh, interesting, ok
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    Oh I do think silver has some specific relevance, I was mostly just questioning the idea that the mechanism can't involve anti-Light because then aluminum would work. I don't think the effect of silver is a purely Threnody thing. OTOH I don't think silver by itself would kill or even meaningfully harm Fused or Heralds. At some point one of them must have touched silver (Raboniel knows about silver alloys etc) and if it burned them then using it as a weapon against their counterparts would be very obvious. The fact they got through more than fifteen Desolations without permanently killing any Fused or Heralds imo very strongly suggests that any mechanism that perma kills them must require a pretty high level of Cosmere knowledge/technology. Now maybe Fused and Heralds are crazily more powerful than Shades so it would take withering like a million tons of silver to dust before anything happens to them... otoh they don't wither things, so the mechanism is probably very different from the Threnodite "shade is harmed but silver withers to dust" mechanism. It might require some kind of fabrial technology involving silver, a variant of the Jezrien-killing dagger.
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    But I took that as Odium saying "I could tell the Fused to stay on Braize but I couldn't enforce that". If he can go after individual Fused he could indeed enforce it. I'm not suggesting Dalinar asking Odium to kill the Fused in general - just questioning Odium's claim that he couldn't enforce a "stay off Roshar" order.
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    I don't think Endowment is quite that purely positive; being a Drab has significant downsides, and people becoming Drabs is a key part of the whole Returned Breath-eating setup. And the Returned are specifically chosen by Endowment, so I don't think it's totally a case of "people have run with this and misused the system" - Endowment has continuing involvement. I think the concept of Endowment is more "giving at a cost to oneself" than "sharing is caring". Endowment also has created voluntary Splinters of herself (Divine Breath). I think she's definitely one of the more benign and positive Shards, but any of the Shard concepts in isolation can become dangerous. Kind of like Preservation being all good with the Lord Ruler in Secret History (look, he doesn't change! The same guy in charge for a thousand years! Awesome!) even though he's definitely also one of the more benign Shards we've seen. Given Autonomy's tendency to meddle, that Intent might be more like favoring separate independent people/groups/nations/worlds/whatever rather than a single monolithic unity. Maybe also why Autonomy's known for Avatars which we don't see on Scadrial or Roshar or Nalthis...
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    Aluminum specifically blocks Investiture though. I don't think an aluminum dagger would let the anti-Light flow through it.
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    Well, sure, but if Odium could just perma kill them by pulling back his Investiture, he *could* stop them from being reborn - he could just order them to stop and then perma kill any which disobeyed.
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    I think there are 10 because they represent Sazed's 10 rings at the end of Well of Ascension, which he drew on to save his life when Marsh shot them into him. (Presumably he had 10 because it's one for each finger.)
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    I don't think it gives him more power, except maybe indirectly through Connections (like being able to speak to Spook when near death). It might shape who he is. But probably not so dramatically (Stormlight) None of those things have happened to Kelsier. He's also fairly young by cosmere immortal standards (380-something as of BOM). I think he's still basically himself. Also, self-perception is probably important. I wonder if being imbued with Preservation's Investiture by the Well + being a Sliver of Preservation makes Kelsier less vulnerable to change over time?
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    I don't think "lift" is a synonym for "ascend". Lifting is transitive (you lift something else).
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    Thank you! I'd forgotten it specifically confirmed that the highspren is alive.
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    Another oddity is that Odium claims when discussing terms with Dalinar that he now literally can't prevent the Fused from being reborn... was he lying there?
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    There's a WoB that Nale's highspren is okay with what Nale is doing, which I think confirms the spren is alive.
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    Sometimes Hoid through some kind of Fortune use knows where he needs to be but not why. I think Hoid didn't know Preservation's full plan, and so didn't know Kelsier still had a role after setting up the conditions for TLRs death. Or maybe "you did what I needed you to" refers to training Vin or introducing Sazed to the crew; Hoid may have had a Fortune feeling that they had a greater destiny than killing the Lord Ruler. I wonder if Hoid would have made things easier if Kelsier had let Vin talk to him? Giving her a hint about her earring / the Mists perhaps? EDIT: I don't know that Hoid had a specific detailed plan on Scadrial, like he does on Roshar- Hoid apparently has specific history with Rayse. It might have been more a Fortune feeling that he needed to be on Scadrial, important stuff was happening...
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    cometaryorbit replied to Ark1002's topic in Mistborn

    True. But "he left several" implies more than two (Hoid's and Elend's). That suggests either worldhoppers before Hoid in WoA-era or TLR doing something with them during his thousand year reign (experimenting with other uses? Maybe there's a thousand year old kandra somewhere with a Lerasium Blessing, or an old TLR-charged Lerasium mind, or alloyed nuggets...) Vin and Elend found TLR's atium bracers and sold the atium from them (it's mentioned in WOA when Vin is worrying about lack of atium) but did they check all the other jewelry on the body? And at that point- before the Well - would they have recognized it? Or maybe Lerasium Feruchemy isn't actually very useful so TLR stopped wearing the metalmind ages ago. (Or he used it up Compounding, but that wouldn't leave it available to find in later Eras.) Hmm is pre TLR Ascensions actually confirmed? I thought there was one where the question asker assumed it but it wasn't really confirmed 100%. Pre TLR Allomancy seems to have been mist snapping ("Allomancy came with the mists").
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    I wonder if it's a wavelength thing - Feruchemy is on a different frequency/wavelength range than Allomancy, so bronzesense tuned to Allomancy doesn't pick it up by default? Like being tuned to a different radio station, or high pitched sounds that are on the edge of the human hearing range? EDIT: there's a WoB that a Leecher could affect a Compounder's metalminds, but it's not clear if this means only metals in the body (swallowed/piercings) or also regular worn metalminds.
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