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  1. Because my QF is coming around pretty soon, I've polished up the ruleset and changed a few things around. Terror in Minas Tirith The year is 2756 in the Third Age. The land of Gondor lies dark and silent, menaced by an ever-growing shadow on its eastern frontier. Minas Ithil has fallen to the Enemy, and it will not be many years until Osgiliath suffers the same fate. But the plans of Sauron wait for no man. Even now, when the forces of Gondor are watching the expansion of Mordor, a few of Sauron's most cunning servants are ready to strike a blow at the heart of Gondor itself. Ground Rules: Roles:
  2. @Yitzi2 I don't follow your logic in suspecting Orlok. If the elims were simply trying to get PK lynched, Orlok wouldn't have needed to reveal himself. We would have just said that an anonymous captain had blocked the kill and lynched PK anyway. And knowing Orlok, he wouldn't have claimed unless he was convinced it was necessary to keep us on the right path. For that reason, I trust Orlok only less than Flash and myself. @The Flash Araris is always pretty ghostly in games. He was the vigilante killer in AG3, if memory serves, and he had the elims stymied for a while. He's an experienced player, and I could see him masterminding a setup like what happened C1. Thing is, other than what he "could be" doing there's no evidence against him.
  3. @Jondesu The reason an elim!Cluny would have claimed Seeker is because there is generally no way to tell the distribution of the elim team. Take last Rithmatist game, where I was an elim Artist and claimed Artist to multiple people in PMs right at the start of the game. Because there was no way of knowing whether or not the elims had an Artist, or if they did that I was the one, the claim was safe. The same could be happening this game: Cluny claims Seeker, but because at the beginning of the game we have no way of knowing whether or not the elims have a Seeker it's a safe claim. However, we now have a second issue to consider: Flash said that Striker had claimed his role in-thread, which would mean the elims could have known to target him without having to have Seeked him in a previous cycle. @The Flash when did Striker role-claim? I might have missed it while skimming over the cycles that happened while I was away. If Striker had claimed his role in-thread, we lose all evidence that the elims have a Seeker, and Cluny is off the hook. Also, Flash and @Yitzi2, what makes you think that the elims even have a Coinshot? Usually it makes the games highly unbalanced for the elims to have multiple kills, and in this game all elims could order Steel when it came up, and then pass it to their Coinshot, who could then make a kill 3 or 4 cycles in a row. I think it's highly doubtful that the elims have a Coinshot, hemalurgic or not.
  4. Well, that was unexpected. (And no, I'm not the player who killed BR trying to distance myself from the killing.) First order of business/discussion: Why wasn't the Flash attacked? Well, looking back at last Night's posting, it was BR who made the suggestion that we protect Flash. I think that was meant to pull Striker's protection off of himself and onto Flash, so that the elims could kill Striker. The problem with this theory: it requires the elims to know about Striker's role in advance. This is also implied by the fact that it was Striker who was attacked: if you're an elim, and you've just pulled all village protection in general to Flash, who are you going to attack? The only way that I can see Striker being the answer to that question is if Striker's role was known to the elims ahead of time. Therefore, the elims likely have a Seeker who detected Striker doing his thing. And hasn't Cluny claimed Seeker publicly?
  5. @Silverblade5 I just finished courses in AP Biology, English, and Calculus, so I can answer questions in any of those three at a first- or second-year university level. I can also do microeconomics to the second-year level.
  6. @Sart Ecth is a guy. I'm back on, but just for now. I won't have another window with WiFi for a day and most of another. First off, the evil gut reads on me. Evidence against me: --Abnormal activity level --Wrong about Lopen --Seemed very concerned about kills taking spikes --Known Contribution Crusader (a proponent of killing inactives) --Member of the last elim team to target inactives using faction kill (see below) Ah, I see why people are reading evil on me. Moving on... Secondly, I have a theory on the elim-kills. The last time that I remember the elims starting off a game by killing an inactive, it was MR21. The elim team was Aman, Joe, Frozen Mint, and I, and we killed Darkness Ascendant off of the bat because he warned the thread that he was going inactive. We did it because we had two usual fear-kill targets on our team in Aman and Joe, and we didn't want players getting suspicious as to why those two were alive. That was another reason why I was leaning evil on Lopen, but now that Lopen is proven good that point is moot anyway. The other fear-kill target in this game is Orlok, which makes me lean more evil on him. Problem is, Orlok struck me as village when he claimed early, and I think he was justified in detaining Flash last night. I might have done the same thing were I a captain. That takes us to kill two: Lopen. The easy conclusion to come to is that either Lopen was onto something or he was just the target of a fear-kill; but I think it was something a little more subtle: the elims knew that Lopen was village because he wasn't in a doc with them, so they killed him to throw suspicion on the players who had expressed suspicion of him: Brightness and myself. This makes me more trusting of Brightness. So about Orlok, I'm torn. On the one hand, Orlok had the role and the know-how to direct the lynch on PK without taking much suspicion for it, and Orlok detained Flash, whom I read as gut and being truthful. On the other hand, Orlok has backed up Flash's claim, detained Flash with reason, and claimed early. With Orlok, it's hard to tell. Orlok being evil could have caused the elims to not make a fear-kill N1, but that would have made a kill on Lopen N2 even more risky. Right now, I'm for leaving Orlok alive, but that could change if any more evidence against him shows up. I'm throwing a vote on Ecthelion III, because he tends to go semi-active like this when he's evil. He's tossed some votes around without contributing much to the discussion. Also, this post of his seems to me like he's over-emphasizing that he doesn't have any non-thread contacts, which includes the elim doc. I'll be back on in a couple of days, assuming I live that long. Happy lynching!
  7. And I'm off to a mission prep camp. I'll be AWOL until Thursday, with a brief window of time to post on Tuesday night. @TheMightyLopen The spikes ruling is in the general rules, and Brightness just quoted it.
  8. Turned into an Inquisitor, because then I would remain alive, have incredible powers, and maybe even be able to resist the power of Ruin and be a hero. Would you rather eat a bowl of chouta with the Lopen or some Horneater stew with Rock?
  9. If evil never sleeps, is that why villains are always so grumpy?
  10. Knowing Kal, I don't think he'll spend enough time around Jasnah to get to know her very well. He'll probably go all "Storming lighteyes!" on her and either do something heroic with Bridge 4 or go mope by himself. Hearing Kal's past will probably cause Jasnah to conflict with Shallan over the morality of using bridge crews. I think Kal is a more interesting character, because he's got the mental health component to his actions, the code of honor he must uphold, and because I love a good underdog story.
  11. I'm finally up to current, and Lopen's post at the top of this page doesn't sound right with regards to Brightness. As Yitzi said, you'd think an elim would start out by posting surprise about the lack of a kill in order to appear helpful, active, and maybe even direct village discussion the way the elims would want it to go. Brightness' error strikes me as a villager being either rushed or unfocused. Also, Lopen defended Cluny, who is also striking me as suspicious because of how certain he appears that the elims won't just off him in order to harvest the hemalurgic spike from the body. If I had to vote on somebody other than Lopen, it would be Cluny.
  12. Boris woke up to a horrible sight. Out of the narrow window, he could see Booken's body tied to a pole, face bloodied. That surely wasn't something you saw every day. Then a wave of nausea hit Boris, and as he leaned back in bed his head hit something hard. A bottle of cheap gin. That explained everything. Boris allowed himself to fall back to sleep, paying no more thought to the dead man, or to the shift that he was missing. Those could wait. *** Hmm... right now I'm suspicious of Stick, because I think that Orlok is village for reasons I specified yesterday, meaning that if my gut is right, both PK and Orlok were village. That's the possibility that Stick left off of her list of possibilities yesterday. Also, I don't think a Hazekiller blocked the Elim-kill, because Hazekiller isn't a very powerful role, so any Hazekiller who did perform a roleblock N1 doesn't have much reason not to announce their action and target to the thread. I find it more likely that the elims chose not to put in a kill to either deprive us of information, or to ensure that all players at least had the chance to experience one day cycle.
  13. PK voting on himself doesn't make me suspect him any less, but doesn't make me suspect him more, either. In the past I've voted on myself as both village and as an elim. ** Boris awoke from a refreshing nap, his second of the day. On the bulletin board near the guard bunks a note had been hung, but Boris didn't bother to read it. He did, however, grab his earplugs from the table next to his bed, just in case someone attempted to tell him off for "dereliction of duty", whatever that was.
  14. @TheMightyLopenNo, I'm even voting PK, but I just thought it funny that Stick was so willing to assume that one of the two _had_ to be evil. That kind of logic gets the other lynched if we lynch one and they're village. @StrikerEZ That's called bussing (as in, throw them under the bus), and it's decently common in SE. Usually, however, logic like yours keeps elims from jumping on the bandwagon once it gets going because then they would look suspicious.
  15. If Orlok was an elim, you'd think he would have had his teammates implicate PK without Orlok having to reveal his role. For that I'm leaning village on him. Even though we're far from certain that PK is evil, we can't overlook that possibility, and if he isn't then we know that Team Evil chose, for some reason, not to put in a kill. While Boris isn't the type to go after PK mob-style, he'll try to get somebody else to. PK
  16. I could see myself doing that as an elim, but not this early. This early, we have time to lynch PK, if we choose to go that route. If it was a frame-up, lynching Village!PK would reveal that the elims have an unorthodox tactician on their team, which would throw suspicion on those of use willing to take that sort of risk, such as myself. @Stick Why not include the fourth option, that both Orlok and PK are village? Orlok could have detained PK, and the elims could have chosen to not put in a kill as an act of sportsmanship, so that everyone has the choice of voting once? It's not a Len-like strategy, but I could see a few players in the player list who might have been inclined to propose that strategy: Ecth, Meta, Lopen, and anyone else who has a target on their back C1.
  17. Boris yawned. All of this talk about semi-omnipotent beings that could control those with spikes really wasn't all that interesting to him. Then again, very few things were, but that was no excuse for boring conversation. He yawned again, and headed for the barracks, even though he wasn't off duty for another hour. The Captain would understand. Probably.
  18. (I don't want to deal with that quoting into edits glitch, so double-post it is) Brute-force algebra has failed me, so I've attacked this one with critical thinking, and here's what I've got so far: (A, B, and C could be any of the fruits; the problem doesn't change whether A is apple or banana or pineapple, etc) IF a solution exists with the specified domain restrictions: A > B >= C A > (B + C) A > 6 A, B, and C are either all odd numbers or all even numbers And, with a little help from an online graphing calculator, I can say that none of A, B, or C = 0. That's all the time I've got right now.
  19. My knowledge of calculus doesn't extend far, but I'll share what I've got: The shortcut here is, if you have a point on f(x), "initial condition" is what my teacher called it, to plug in that (x,y) pair into the half-solved differential equation and see if the term inside the absolute value is positive or negative. If it is positive, you can drop the absolute value, because it isn't necessary to find the solution. If the absolute value ends up containing a negative value, multiply the interior of the absolute value by -1 and then drop the absolute value bars. It's the same sort of thing that you have to do with the square root when you're solving a differential equation whose result is a circle and you need to determine whether or not you need the top or bottom half of it. If you don't have an initial condition, I can't help you too much. My course didn't cover that. Maybe define a piecewise function based on y being less than or greater than ac? [\CrazyMathStuff]
  20. I've never seen a vanilla game template here; each game is so different that the individual GM just makes up the rules and types them up. If you want some help typing up and organizing a ruleset, PM me and I can help you with that.
  21. Elenion was tiring. He hadn't had time to brace himself for the impact into the ground, and as the adrenaline wore off he found an ache in his back. It wasn't incredibly painful, but it did slow him down, making him an easier target. Added to that, the demons appeared to have caught on to his strategy: they either targeted their slashes at his sword, attempting to disarm him, or abandoned their weapons altogether in favor of teeth and claws that, like the fallen demon, could somehow touch him even when he willed himself insubstantial. Elenion's fellow guards were no better off. Of those that had entered the melee, three were severely wounded, one was dead, and only about half of them did not have at least minor injuries. They were giving ground slowly, working their way backwards towards the entrance as superior strength pressed against them relentlessly and formed them into a defensive line that continued to slowly give ground. At least three of the demons had wings, and they used them to shoot across the room to press the defense where it was weakest. "How much longer do we need to hold them?" Rodel said, slashing his claws across the shield of a bulky, elephantine demon. They cut through it like it was tinfoil. "I don't know. It all depends on--hyah!" The massive sword of the demon that Elenion had killed shot into the enemy ranks, accompanied by a gust of wind. It failed to hit anything solid. A guard fell, hands clasping his abdomen. The bulky demon that had slugged him there hefted its sword, but a crossbow bolt to the shoulder caused it to drop the heavy weapon. A crossbow bolt? You can't use a crossbow at that close of range! And there, in the entrance, was a fresh group of guards, about ten in number. Each had unslung a crossbow from their back, and they provided a covering fire as more guards poured into the room. It was then that Queen Elsa herself entered the room, clad in armor the color of pure ice and carrying a sword longer than a man was tall. She showed no signs of the injuries that had been paining her just that morning, as she charged, a one-woman blizzard freezing her opponents with fear. Demons ran, flew, or slithered away as she passed through her own ranks and entered those of her enemies. Her sword cut through metal, claw, bone, without hesitation, like a force of nature that had been bridled into an instrument of measured death. She was not hasty or reckless in her strokes, but measured, confident. This was her kingdom, and no twisted animal-demon was going to invade it or abduct her subjects without facing her icy wrath. Unfortunately, not all of the guards were as disciplined as the Queen. A few lowered their weapons to watch the Queen's wrath unfold, giving a demon a window to act. It was the panther-demon that Elenion had tossed into the wall earlier, and it went for Elenion in the blink of an eye, grabbing him so quickly that his sword clattered out of his hand. The demon put a black, razor-sharp claw to Elenion's neck. "Stop!" It said in a voice that was disturbingly human, "Or this one dies!"
  22. Boris heard a crash from the next room over. He looked up, pondering, and slowly made his way over to the door. He was curious, sure, but he wasn't in any particular hurry. He never was. When he finally reached the door, he opened it slowly, the door hinges squeaking with a lack of oil. "Who might you be?" he said to Argyle, but he was drowned out by the latter tripping on another chair. Argyle rushed out of the room without hearing. Boris could have followed, but he didn't think it would have accomplished much, so he wandered back to his post.
  23. C1 is the best cycle to miss. Generally all that comes out of it is who voted for who, who defended who, and if anyone figured out how to exploit a game mechanic.
  24. SE Strategy 101: 1. Stay active. Even for experienced players, getting behind on the game can be crazy hard to recover from. 2. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. PMs can be a powerful tool for getting reads on players, if you have the time and motivation to keep them active. (I often lack the latter.) 3. Either be open about your role with everyone, or with nobody. If one elim knows about your role, they'll tell all of the others, but if one villager knows they can't share it except with one or two widely-trusted players. Many players with power roles die because they tell a few players what they are, so the elims know who to hit but the village protection doesn't know who to protect. 4. Establish backup plans. If you've got information that might prove vital, tell it to someone you can trust, because that way the elims can't kill you to deprive the village of your info. This is especially true with scan results.
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